News: Bleacher Report Latest Draft Rumors: Cowboys Eyeing WR or CB at 17

[817Gill]

One game burrying him is stupid. And Trayvon Mullen was all rookie team just last year. I remember Tredavious White getting toasted by Laquan Treadwell in college. You dont pass on a athlete like Terrell. And unlike Henderson he actually tackles

Ey I hear ya man but it wasn’t 1 game, it was the latter half of last season. I’m not making the evaluation up lol it’s about how most scouts feel. He’s rated as the 4-5th best CB in the draft by most pundits, idk what to tell ya.

Nice one with Mullen but one exception to the trend isn’t really much. Tankersley, Alexander, Breeland, and Coty Sensabaugh are the recent Clemson corners drafted in the first 4 rounds other than Mullen. Not really an impressive list. My roommate is a huge Clemson fan and Ravens fan, even he doesn’t want the Ravens to draft Clemson corners lol. LSU, Ohio State, FSU have dominated the CB draft as of recently but I digress.

Also any player picked outside of the top 10-15 is going to have some weakness to his game. CJ literally does everything coverage wise you want in a CB1, if his only flaw is he’s displayed an unwillingness to make tough tackles then sign me up. You can coach him into a more willing tackler that’s not an impossible ask of a coaching staff. The number one need as a CB is coverage, there are other positions where tackling is paramount. If you have a guy who is glue, you draft him and coach him into being a better tackler that’s not a huge task.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Yes.

 

[stilltheguru]

Ey I hear ya man but it wasn’t 1 game, it was the latter half of last season. I’m not making the evaluation up lol it’s about how most scouts feel. He’s rated as the 4-5th best CB in the draft by most pundits, idk what to tell ya.

Nice one with Mullen but one exception to the trend isn’t really much. Tankersley, Alexander, Breeland, and Coty Sensabaugh are the recent Clemson corners drafted in the first 4 rounds other than Mullen. Not really an impressive list. My roommate is a huge Clemson fan and Ravens fan, even he doesn’t want the Ravens to draft Clemson corners lol. LSU, Ohio State, FSU have dominated the CB draft as of recently but I digress.

Also any player picked outside of the top 10-15 is going to have some weakness to his game. CJ literally does everything coverage wise you want in a CB1, if his only flaw is he’s displayed an unwillingness to make tough tackles then sign me up. You can coach him into a more willing tackler that’s not an impossible ask of a coaching staff. The number one need as a CB is coverage, there are other positions where tackling is paramount. If you have a guy who is glue, you draft him and coach him into being a better tackler that’s not a huge task.

I disagree with him falling off last half of the year. Walterfootball said before the Jamar Chase game Terrell didnt give up more than 60 yards for 12 straight games so where is this second half dip coming from? It'll just be funny if we trade down a bit and take Terrell so I can read how we reached for him kinda like the Frederick draft year just because people listen to draft gurus like Mel Kiper who are always wrong. We'll agree to disagree about AJ. And Cromartie saying it doesnt look like CJ Henderson even knows what play the defense is running damn near makes him undraftable to me.

 

[stilltheguru]

Draft projections for Terrell are currently ranging anywhere from the end of the first round to the end of the second round, and his stock is largely dependent on how teams evaluate other players at different positions. From the Cowboys’ perspective, Terrell would be a very realistic option in the event of trading back to a later selection in the first round, and he would be an absolute steal in the second round at 51st overall. Terrell could come in and take on a heavy amount of snaps in the Dallas secondary right from the start, making him a name to keep an eye on.

^^blogging the boys article from today. People need to prepare for this scenario. Diggs will not be a cowboy. Only cb options are Henderson, Fulton and Terrell. Nobody is taking a wr convert from 2 years ago drafting him to start day 1 for a supposed super bowl contender.

 

[kskboys]

If it's someone like Ruggs he would likely be by far the highest rated player available and they do need a 3rd WR which is a starter in todays league. The team more than ever is going to be looking BPA I believe. McCarthy is of the philosophy that you take the best players and make your system fit the talent.

You can't draft using BPA. Very poor strategy.

 

[JBS]

You can't draft using BPA. Very poor strategy.

Yeah you go bpa at a relevant position..and wr is a position of need..

 

[817Gill]

I disagree with him falling off last half of the year. Walterfootball said before the Jamar Chase game Terrell didnt give up more than 60 yards for 12 straight games so where is this second half dip coming from? It'll just be funny if we trade down a bit and take Terrell so I can read how we reached for him kinda like the Frederick draft year just because people listen to draft gurus like Mel Kiper who are always wrong. We'll agree to disagree about AJ. And Cromartie saying it doesnt look like CJ Henderson even knows what play the defense is running damn near makes him undraftable to me.

A trade down for Terrell wouldn’t be bad at all, him in the late 20’s with an extra 2/3 is fine by me, just don’t see him as a top 20 pick.

I heard some of CJ’s tackling woes looked like “business decisions”. Tackling is so much of the mental because at 6-1 200 he’s def big enough to tackle lol, just needs a kick in the rear from the coaching staff. It’s honestly not the biggest concern for me especially due to his dang near elite ability everywhere else.

 

[stilltheguru]

Yeah you go bpa at a relevant position..and wr is a position of need..

What team drafts a third wr in round 1? When has that ever happened

 

[817Gill]

What team drafts a third wr in round 1? When has that ever happened

Lol Atlanta & Calvin Ridley. Julio and Sanu were the starting outside guys both on contract extensions, Ridley started in the slot his rookie year.

Of course this made Sanu expendable, but so is Coop in 2 seasons. Say the team grabs a guy like Justin Jefferson. And after 2 years Gallup is up for a new deal and Coop’s contract is cuttable without a huge cap hit, and Jefferson has been a stud. You could make a case to let Coop walk sign Gallup to an extension and roll with him and Jefferson as your starting outside WR’s.

Not saying it’s the right move, but there is some reasoning behind it

 

[blueblood70]

What happens if one of the top 2 DT are on the board at 17?

you take them, we need every postion in defense, we filled holes with vets but long tern need all defense, you take the best player on the board but defense trumps a tie with offense..

pretty simple, the drafts not science and hardly a slam dunk no matter who you draft..our defense is the obvious choice to draft high for..

if you cant find a #3 WR ie slot to replace cobb in the 2nd or thirds round this year , then you shouldn't be in the draft decsions..

we have far too much money allocated to WR and Offense this year, defense is full of holes..

 

[JBS]

Lol Atlanta & Calvin Ridley. Julio and Sanu were the starting outside guys both on contract extensions, Ridley started in the slot his rookie year.

Of course this made Sanu expendable, but so is Coop in 2 seasons. Say the team grabs a guy like Justin Jefferson. And after 2 years Gallup is up for a new deal and Coop’s contract is cuttable without a huge cap hit, and Jefferson has been a stud. You could make a case to let Coop walk sign Gallup to an extension and roll with him and Jefferson as your starting outside WR’s.

Not saying it’s the right move, but there is some reasoning behind it

Didn't take long to put an end to that argument

Well done

 

[stilltheguru]

Lol Atlanta & Calvin Ridley. Julio and Sanu were the starting outside guys both on contract extensions, Ridley started in the slot his rookie year.

Of course this made Sanu expendable, but so is Coop in 2 seasons. Say the team grabs a guy like Justin Jefferson. And after 2 years Gallup is up for a new deal and Coop’s contract is cuttable without a huge cap hit, and Jefferson has been a stud. You could make a case to let Coop walk sign Gallup to an extension and roll with him and Jefferson as your starting outside WR’s.

Not saying it’s the right move, but there is some reasoning behind it

1 example out of how many teams/years? I never said it never happened

 

[NorthwestDallas40]

Ruggs is going to end up staring us right in the face. There’s no way 3 WRs go before 17.

I think Jeudy more likely.

 

[TheSkaven]

According to “conversations with a plugged-in scout who knows the workings of this front office.” Take from it what you want, just puttin it out there.

Ruggs and Henderson are both A++ picks

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...k-latest-2020-draft-rumors-for-every-nfl-team

I also wouldn’t be shocked if they trade down two or three spots and take Denzel Mims. That kid is going to be a superstar.

 

[quickccc]

Lol Atlanta & Calvin Ridley. Julio and Sanu were the starting outside guys both on contract extensions, Ridley started in the slot his rookie year.

Of course this made Sanu expendable, but so is Coop in 2 seasons. Say the team grabs a guy like Justin Jefferson. And after 2 years Gallup is up for a new deal and Coop’s contract is cuttable without a huge cap hit, and Jefferson has been a stud. You could make a case to let Coop walk sign Gallup to an extension and roll with him and Jefferson as your starting outside WR’s.

Not saying it’s the right move, but there is some reasoning behind it

+1
you're right if you're saying ATL drafted Ridley with the idea that he would be the eventual 2nd WR opposite Julio. jo-
of course they had to first be in a position where Ridley somehow lands in their spot - and that would allow them
nab Ridley, and they could kiss Sanu goodbye in FA.

And apparently they felt Ridley was No.1 like type, even though they had Julio. That's a make up (in their minds) for a Issac Bruce/Torry Holt type duo
to have to defend.

From what i believe there is no plan to move on from Michael Gallup, ..not when he's showing every bit that he is developing into a heck of a No.2 WR.
And it would have to be a particular WR in the 1st that they have their eye on, that they coveted and have in their own minds, the full make of a DeAndre Hopkins
version of a lead WR. Not just grabbing a WR in the first rd, just for the sake of a getting one.
Speculations can be what particular lead WR could they be targeting.

Ironically i recall speculations a couple of years back when many (including me) thought we would be the ones taking Calvin Ridley ..DJ Moore in the first
round.. instead of eventual Leighton Vander Esch,.. at that time a unpopular fanfare choice.

 

[817Gill]

1 example out of how many teams/years? I never said it never happened

I get it, not a common move. But then again how many times does that specific situation ensue? Keep in mind Atlanta had been to the Super Bowl recently and there were pro bowlers/starters/guys to be signed to extensions all over the roster. They didn’t have a lot of huge holes on paper (other than depth), so they went BPA and in turn were able to flip Sanu for a 2. I imagine we could do the same if not better with Coop.

We also have few starting holes. Only CB1 and WR3 are immediate starting upgrades needed. Every other starter is most likely on the roster barring a setback in the reinstatement of the RDE’s, even then all signs point to Crawford starting there. Not only is one of the immediate needs WR, but the team can afford to go BPA and there is a good chance a WR of value is sitting there.

Again there are other ways we can go for sure. But it isn’t ludicrous to draft a WR round 1 and it just might happen.

 

[817Gill]

+1
you're right if you're saying ATL drafted Ridley with the idea that he would be the eventual 2nd WR opposite Julio. jo-
of course they had to first be in a position where Ridley somehow lands in their spot - and that would allow them
nab Ridley, and they could kiss Sanu goodbye in FA.

And apparently they felt Ridley was No.1 like type, even though they had Julio. That's a make up (in their minds) for a Issac Bruce/Torry Holt type duo
to have to defend.

From what i believe there is no plan to move on from Michael Gallup, ..not when he's showing every bit that he is developing into a heck of a No.2 WR.
And it would have to be a particular WR in the 1st that they have their eye on, that they coveted and have in their own minds, the full make of a DeAndre Hopkins
version of a lead WR. Not just grabbing a WR in the first rd, just for the sake of a getting one.
Speculations can be what particular lead WR could they be targeting.

Ironically i recall speculations a couple of years back when many (including me) thought we would be the ones taking Calvin Ridley ..DJ Moore in the first
round.. instead of eventual Leighton Vander Esch,.. at that time a unpopular fanfare choice.

The WR to move on from wouldn’t be Michael Gallup. Cooper’s 5 year deal is really a 2 year deal as I alluded to in the post you quoted. If the team sees the hot and cold act again these next few seasons and decides Gallup can be just as good, Cooper becomes expendable.

The reason they structured his deal as such is because of their skepticism, which has been reported by various insider outlets. It seems to me that all signs point to the FO having their doubts about Coop, hedging their contractual bet with a quality WR would just fall in line with what the teams been showing us anyway.

Again not saying this will happen, but the groundwork has been laid for it to if the team wants.

 

[kumizi]

I think all the tea leaves seem to indicate we will be going corner early (and possibly double dipping).

Yep. I don't see how it's not obvious to the rest of these fans. Our corners not only suck right now but they're about to be free agents.

The need is so obvious that my worry with this draft is they reach for a corner at 17 if Okudah and Henderson gone.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Yep. I don't see how it's not obvious to the rest of these fans. Our corners not only suck right now but they're about to be free agents.

The need is so obvious that my worry with this draft is they reach for a corner at 17 if Okudah and Henderson gone.

If they are both gone you do not just take a corner there just to take one. That is a NO NO.

 

[DanA]

You can't draft using BPA. Very poor strategy.

You kind of can. It just means making smart moves in FA and then moving up and down the draft board to the spots that work