Pollard is good, but he's no Zeke

[Typhus]

Lol you bring up one play Murray fumbling in our very first post, then have this to say?
Pot meet kettle

You two knuckleheads,,, neither one of you see the big current picture,, now I give you permission to befriend each other and come gang up on me,, Im bored as a lazy catfish...
Im ready to rumble...lol

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Zeke is the best blocking back in football by a long long ways.

You wish/hope he is.
We've heard he's the best at a lot of things that aren't remotely true. Likely the case with blocking as well.

 

[Aviano90]

Lol pulling out one play. Should I pull up videos of Murray fumbling because he refused to carry the ball and protect it? There’s much more of those than Zeke missing blocks.

Zeke - 15 fumbles in 1358 touches = 1.1% fumble rate
Murray - 18 fumbles in 1911 touches = 0.94% fumble rate

You just think more negatively of Murray's fumbles than you do of Zeke's, but Zeke needs to protect the football better himself.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Zeke - 15 fumbles in 1358 touches = 1.1% fumble rate
Murray - 18 fumbles in 1911 touches = 0.94% fumble rate

You just think more negatively of Murray's fumbles than you do of Zeke's, but Zeke needs to protect the football better himself.

Checkmate again @phildadon86

Good job Avian

 

[phildadon86]

Zeke is the best blocking back in football by a long long ways.

We agree again. It really is the end of times. Lol

 

[phildadon86]

Checkmate again @phildadon86

Good job Avian

Lol yeah. Let’s go look at moments in game when it’s fumbled. Murray had a knack for fumbling at crucial moments Green Bay and Washington are just 2 examples.

 

[phildadon86]

Zeke - 15 fumbles in 1358 touches = 1.1% fumble rate
Murray - 18 fumbles in 1911 touches = 0.94% fumble rate

You just think more negatively of Murray's fumbles than you do of Zeke's, but Zeke needs to protect the football better himself.

I don’t disagree that Zeke does at all. All I’m saying is that Murray had a knack for fumbling at crucial moments. A fumble in the first quarter isn’t as bad as a fumble in the 4th.

 

[Aviano90]

I don’t disagree that Zeke does at all. All I’m saying is that Murray had a knack for fumbling at crucial moments. A fumble in the first quarter isn’t as bad as a fumble in the 4th.

There really isn't a good time for a turnover unless it's like a Hail Mary, or maybe a desperation 4th down play, or something like that. A turnover can be critical in any non-blowout loss, regardless of when it happens. The example I gave with Zeke fumbling against NO late in the 2nd half that stalled our drive and allowed NO to kick a FG before half in a 2 point loss can be considered critical. It's just as critical as Murray's fumble against GB early in the 3rd quarter. They were both fumbles that ultimately impacted our ability to win the game.

The good thing about Zeke's fumbles is he only lost 5 of them. But he needs to stop putting the ball on the ground so often.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

I don’t disagree that Zeke does at all. All I’m saying is that Murray had a knack for fumbling at crucial moments. A fumble in the first quarter isn’t as bad as a fumble in the 4th.

Nah nah nah, you told me Zeke didn't have a fumbling issue since he had zero fumbles in college. Don't back track now bud

And as was already pointed out you just want to remember what you want to remember. Selective memory. Fact is what you bashed Murray for initial are some of the exact same dings Zeke has. It was just a really bad post.

Fact is once Zeke leaves and another RB replaces him 99% of fans will say Zeke wasn't even that good and the new guy will the best running back in the league. We see it every year.

 

[CATCH17]

You wish/hope he is.
We've heard he's the best at a lot of things that aren't remotely true. Likely the case with blocking as well.

No.. I watch the game’s.. The guy is probably a better blocker then he is a runner.

 

[phildadon86]

Nah nah nah, you told me Zeke didn't have a fumbling issue since he had zero fumbles in college. Don't back track now bud

And as was already pointed out you just want to remember what you want to remember. Selective memory. Fact is what you bashed Murray for initial are some of the exact same dings Zeke has. It was just a really bad post.

Fact is once Zeke leaves and another RB replaces him 99% of fans will say Zeke wasn't even that good and the new guy will the best running back in the league. We see it every year.

Ummm no. As the post above states. Zeke has only lost 5 of those fumbles. Lets look at Murray’s fumbles loss stat. Then talk. I’m not backtracking anything. Zeke is better than Murray. It’s not hard to comprehend. And Zeke also didn’t go to philly either.

 

[phildadon86]

No.. I watch the game’s.. The guy is probably a better blocker then he is a runner.

All this agreeing seems off lol

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Kinda like here?

Oh you found one he wiffed on. Because NO offensive lineman...even our all-pros...ever do that, right? (Sheesh....people....not a fan)

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

~Snipped for space and clarity~

, but Zeke needs to protect the football better himself.

I am sorry...but I have to agree with you on this.

 

[Cmac]

I haven't heard ANYONE say that Pollard is better than Zeke. Not one poster on here or anywhere.

However, there are definitely things that Pollard does better and those things need to be tapped into by scheme and more use.

Weren't you viewing all the posts during the season about the Pollard Lovefest and Zeke hate?...….Zeke got blamed when Pollard fumbled! Agree, there are things that Pollard does better than Zeke, but there are many that Zeke does better than Pollard.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

No.. I watch the game’s.. The guy is probably a better blocker then he is a runner.

Congrats. You along with every single person here watches the games.

That wouldn't be saying all that much.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Oh you found one he wiffed on. Because NO offensive lineman...even our all-pros...ever do that, right? (Sheesh....people....not a fan)

It's just funny to have all these people come to Zeke's defense and there is never any substance to it.

"Go watch blah blah blah.."
Why don't you link those highlights at the very minimum?

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

Ummm no. As the post above states. Zeke has only lost 5 of those fumbles. Lets look at Murray’s fumbles loss stat. Then talk. I’m not backtracking anything. Zeke is better than Murray. It’s not hard to comprehend. And Zeke also didn’t go to philly either.

Lol now you are having to resort to lost fumbles instead of fumbles, even though it's completely random and luck based. Security is security you're either fumbling or you're not, who ends up landing on the ball doesn't matter. Just take your L young buck.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Oh ok yeah you are just trolling at this point. I get you don't like Zeke but to say he isn't better than Demarco is silly.

Actually I thought more about that one. That's a very close one. Murray certainly had the better season. Cowboys rushing record, 1800 yards. But his vision wasn't his the greatest either. They were very very similar.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Zeke is more well-rounded, Pollard is more talented. Zeke lacks that home run threat and even that "get to 40 yards since 2016" threat. Why I'd like to see them start splitting carries/touches 50/50, salary aside.

Agreed. And Pollard has better vision. Perfect 2 back tandem to be honest. I would love to see 50/50 and then hot hand.