Draft rumours and info

[beware_d-ware]

Saw an interesting graph yesterday - 2020 CB prospects, yards per target vs completion percentage allowed. Low and left is better.

Spoiler

Okudah is leading the pack down there on the bottom left. Henderson is hanging out at the far top right.

That's one reason I think this "Hendo is as good as Okudah" thing is a load of bull. Okudah is an absolutely bulletproof CB prospect with no holes in his game. Elite coverage numbers, zero penalties in 2019, played in an NFL style system, ideal build, 99th percentile athleticism, great technique, plays the run, RKG off the field... any attempt to criticize him feels like nitpicking. He's Jalen Ramsey if Jalen Ramsey wasn't a dick and I absolutely see Okudah as one of the top 3 corners to come out of college in the last decade.

And if the Rams were willing to pay (overpay IMO) two first rounders for 1 1/2 cheap years of Ramsey, think of how valuable 5 cheap years of Okudah will be.

Henderson really downshifted his game in 2019. He played like a stud in 2018, but this year, his entire mission seemed to be to coast off his athleticism and avoid injury. His athleticism alone warrants a top 15 pick, but I am really scared of a guy who has turned it off like that. That's a MAJOR question I have with him, while I have zero w/ Okudah.

 

[Illinoiscowboy]

A lot of people are saying we are in love with Ruiz....

Trade back and grab him he's gonna be a all pro

 

[stilltheguru]

lol people actually want to draft a center Like Zeke wasnt still Zeke without Frederick. Like Dak didnt perform better than ever without Frederick (he struggled early 2018 because he had no receiver). Another player who if drafted in round 1 will prove we are a loser franchise

 

[KingintheNorth]

I've seen people project him to us. I haven't heard anyone say we love him. It would be a major fail if we took him

coming from the Wolverine homer that's saying a lot.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Saw an interesting graph yesterday - 2020 CB prospects, yards per target vs completion percentage allowed. Low and left is better.

Spoiler

Okudah is leading the pack down there on the bottom left. Henderson is hanging out at the far top right.

That's one reason I think this "Hendo is as good as Okudah" thing is a load of bull. Okudah is an absolutely bulletproof CB prospect with no holes in his game. Elite coverage numbers, zero penalties in 2019, played in an NFL style system, ideal build, 99th percentile athleticism, great technique, plays the run, RKG off the field... any attempt to criticize him feels like nitpicking. He's Jalen Ramsey if Jalen Ramsey wasn't a dick and I absolutely see Okudah as one of the top 3 corners to come out of college in the last decade.

And if the Rams were willing to pay (overpay IMO) two first rounders for 1 1/2 cheap years of Ramsey, think of how valuable 5 cheap years of Okudah will be.

Henderson really downshifted his game in 2019. He played like a stud in 2018, but this year, his entire mission seemed to be to coast off his athleticism and avoid injury. His athleticism alone warrants a top 15 pick, but I am really scared of a guy who has turned it off like that. That's a MAJOR question I have with him, while I have zero w/ Okudah.

Henderson is overvalued because of his Sparq. He is a good prospect, but I think he is more a late first round prospect that where he is projected. And I don't he is going to be a very good year 1 CB. I could see him having a very Deandre Baker rookie year

 

[Williamsboys]

Dallas possibly taking Ruiz makes me think to myself that we sure have alot of players on this roster just taking up space..
Salary cap space.

 

[unionjack8]

 

[Bowdown27]

Dallas possibly taking Ruiz makes me think to myself that we sure have alot of players on this roster just taking up space..
Salary cap space.

That rumor is hitting on a lot of outlets now. I just can’t seem to believe it honestly. They don’t believe in McGovern it seems then.

 

[JBS]

Denver wants to move up for a OT

 

[unionjack8]

 

[Carson]

That rumor is hitting on a lot of outlets now. I just can’t seem to believe it honestly. They don’t believe in McGovern it seems then.

Could be we are still nervous McGovern isn’t fully healthy.

Ruiz at 51 is great. At 17 though? Hell no

 

[JBS]

And you thought this thread would fail!

 

[JBS]

Could be we are still nervous McGovern isn’t fully healthy.

Ruiz at 51 is great. At 17 though? Hell no

Even if..we still have Looney

 

[Dylan88Wilson]

Saw an interesting graph yesterday - 2020 CB prospects, yards per target vs completion percentage allowed. Low and left is better.

Spoiler

Okudah is leading the pack down there on the bottom left. Henderson is hanging out at the far top right.

That's one reason I think this "Hendo is as good as Okudah" thing is a load of bull. Okudah is an absolutely bulletproof CB prospect with no holes in his game. Elite coverage numbers, zero penalties in 2019, played in an NFL style system, ideal build, 99th percentile athleticism, great technique, plays the run, RKG off the field... any attempt to criticize him feels like nitpicking. He's Jalen Ramsey if Jalen Ramsey wasn't a dick and I absolutely see Okudah as one of the top 3 corners to come out of college in the last decade.

And if the Rams were willing to pay (overpay IMO) two first rounders for 1 1/2 cheap years of Ramsey, think of how valuable 5 cheap years of Okudah will be.

Henderson really downshifted his game in 2019. He played like a stud in 2018, but this year, his entire mission seemed to be to coast off his athleticism and avoid injury. His athleticism alone warrants a top 15 pick, but I am really scared of a guy who has turned it off like that. That's a MAJOR question I have with him, while I have zero w/ Okudah.

Going by that graph, Bryce Hall only allows .5% more completions and .6 more yards per target than Okudah. Considering there’s people making threads about trading our entire draft for Okudah, I’m loving more & more the idea of drafting Hall in the 3rd.

 

[Carson]

Even if..we still have Looney

That is very true. It’s hard to see how McCarthy envisions the future of the line.

Jumbo will be 30 and has position flex. He allows you to go 1 less on the OL.

Ruiz is plug and play.

Going to be interesting to see how the front office handles it. With Williams, McGovern, Looney how things will fall.

Going by that graph, Bryce Hall only allows .5% more completions and .6 more yards per target than Okudah. Considering there’s people making threads about trading our entire draft for Okudah, I’m loving more & more the idea of drafting Hall in the 3rd.

Hall will be this years Desmond King. He is going to go later and people will be mad they didn’t draft him higher. Don’t think he will be All Pro like King. But still a solid talent.

 

[stilltheguru]

Hall is going in round 2. And even if he did miraculously slip to 3 it wont be 81

 

[Creeper]

I have Henderson over Okudah too. I was hoping I was alone on that one because I'd rather Henderson drops to 17 unless Kinlaw drops there.

 

[Mr_437]

Saw an interesting graph yesterday - 2020 CB prospects, yards per target vs completion percentage allowed. Low and left is better.

Spoiler

Okudah is leading the pack down there on the bottom left. Henderson is hanging out at the far top right.

That's one reason I think this "Hendo is as good as Okudah" thing is a load of bull. Okudah is an absolutely bulletproof CB prospect with no holes in his game. Elite coverage numbers, zero penalties in 2019, played in an NFL style system, ideal build, 99th percentile athleticism, great technique, plays the run, RKG off the field... any attempt to criticize him feels like nitpicking. He's Jalen Ramsey if Jalen Ramsey wasn't a dick and I absolutely see Okudah as one of the top 3 corners to come out of college in the last decade.

And if the Rams were willing to pay (overpay IMO) two first rounders for 1 1/2 cheap years of Ramsey, think of how valuable 5 cheap years of Okudah will be.

Henderson really downshifted his game in 2019. He played like a stud in 2018, but this year, his entire mission seemed to be to coast off his athleticism and avoid injury. His athleticism alone warrants a top 15 pick, but I am really scared of a guy who has turned it off like that. That's a MAJOR question I have with him, while I have zero w/ Okudah.

I really like Darnay Holme's game. Also give me Cousin Jeff, Arnette and Noah I...these 4 are guys who play the position the way I like. There's gonna be a gold mine in the 2nd round.

Oh yeah, good thread OP.

 

[RS12]

One of the 7 teams that called Utah State HC about Love was the 4skins.

 

[jnday]

lol people actually want to draft a center Like Zeke wasnt still Zeke without Frederick. Like Dak didnt perform better than ever without Frederick (he struggled early 2018 because he had no receiver). Another player who if drafted in round 1 will prove we are a loser franchise

The difference in the number of sacks between having Frederick and not having him is the telling stat about the importance of a top center.