News: Landon Collins: I'd rather hit Barkely than hit Zeke

[slick325]

Could you distort that anymore? First of all, TD’s are probably the most over rated stat other than total yards. Do you realize how many different factors go into who gets more TD’s? Do you think every situation is the same? Do you think every team has the same style of coaching? Do you think every team has the same personnel? Player A could have 15 TD’s and Player B has 5 but player B is a much better all around back.

Broken tackles, yards from scrimmage, yards after contact, fumbles, etc are much more telling. You mention more rushing yards but conveniently left out all purpose yards. You mentioned more yards but conveniently left out the amount of carries each back had. You mentioned more yards but conveniently left out ypc. You mention Zeke’s suspension but barely mentioned Barkley being out for 3 games due to an injury that happened in the second game of the season het he continued to play with until the very end of the season (minus the 3 games) IIRC. An injury most people didn’t expect him to return from that season, let alone just miss 3 games. If you watched him run you could tell he wasn’t nearly himself for most of the season and he wouldn’t let the Giants shut him down whereas Zeke would have been on the next flight to Cabo.

Again, perhaps you skipped page 4 of this thread where I list several stats that Barkley is clearly better at. I swear it’s almost as if some of you just read the title and respond without reading the thread. How could you honestly say there isn’t anything Barkley does better when I give 5 or 6 examples and that was behind one of the worst lines in the league.

BTW, I’ve rattled off several of McAffreys stats minus his rookie season when they hardly used him in the McCaffrey is the highest paid RB thread. I suggest you check those numbers out as well before you start spouting off about something you have little knowledge about.

I respect your opinion.

 

[slick325]

@CalPolyTechnique I respect your opinion.

 

[DenCWBY]

I think Landon Collins can't hit either of these guys without losing at least 5 yards first.

 

[aria]

I respect your opinion.

Not much I can say to that. Have a good day!

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

I'd rather have Barkley than market setting salary Zeke. Be quite a duo - Barkley and Pollard.

so what will Barkley get when he gets his $$$

 

[StuckMojo]

He didn’t say he was great, he said he was the best. Changing topics, Barkley has been running behind the Burt Reynolds line, lol. I believe they were ranked 29th his rookie year or close to it IIRC.

Maybe his line would be ranked better if he lowered his shoulder and turn a 3 yard loss into a 1 yard gain. Instead of always trying for a home run.

 

[aria]

Maybe his line would be ranked better if he lowered his shoulder and turn a 3 yard loss into a 1 yard gain. Instead of always trying for a home run.

He has nowhere to run on most plays, but on plays where Zeke would have tried to run through guys at least Barkley tries to turn nothing into something by making people miss. The ewok wouldn’t even eclipse 1K yards behind that line.

Yeah, sometimes Barkley dances around too much but most of the time he does that because there’s no holes to run through whereas I could drive a semi through the holes Zeke has. Here’s a nice little clip you can watch and think if that was Elliott running the ball how many times those big plays would have been negative yards. You’ll have to click on the link since it’s unavailable directly.

 

[jwitten82]

yep, I call those fans a## clowns

I thought Garrett was gonna stay, what happened? Lol

 

[stilltheguru]

Loool, smh.

durabilty and tough yardage nobody cares about. Ask the Rams how that worked out for them. Same people sucking off Mcaffrey and Barkley were probably the ones saying Gurley was better than Zeke. At some point they need to shut the hell up.

 

[LatinMind]

Barkley is a better player. But Elliott is awesome, too, and a fully believe other players would rather tackle Barkley than Zeke.

If u take away something like 30 plays over Barkley's career that's almost half his yards. He's not in elliots league

 

[CowboyRoy]

He actually isn’t, he just happens to be the Giants ONLY weapon where the Cowboys have had multiple offensive weapons throughout his career. It’s the old Barry Sanders vs. Emmitt Smith debate, Emmitt was completely disrespected and holds a record that will never be broken (most rushing yards in NFL history), but the offensive line is commonly used ‘against him’. The funny thing is no one EVER brings up the OLine of historically great Quarterbacks.

Also, Barkley does not blow Zeke away in pass catching - go watch some OSU games and watch how insanely good Zeke was catching the ball out of the backfield. The Cowboys just don’t use him out of the backfield that often because he’s such an insanely good blocker.

The ironic thing is I’ve met Zeke in person and he’s the biggest DBag I’ve ever met, so I don’t even like defending the guy; however, Barkley does not blow Zeke away in any category.

Its not debatable. You are welcome to your opinion. Its not even close for me. And once we get into number of 20 yard plays and 40 yard plays it gets real stupid.

IN his rookie year alone Barkley had 20 total TD's that was with a bad line and no weapons to speak of.

Zeke hasn't sniffed those type of numbers and that was with one of the best lines in the NFL and surrounded by weapons in a great offense.

 

[aria]

If u take away something like 30 plays over Barkley's career that's almost half his yards. He's not in elliots league

Neither is the Giants O line vs the Cowboys O line but that doesn’t matter, does it?

Neither does yards from scrimmage, overall yards, broken tackles, yards after contact...all that matters are those pretty little rushing titles that he got due to his O line and carrying the ball more than any other RB every year he won it, even when his ypc was less than others.

Yup, he’s superior alright. I will say he’s a better blocker than Barkley which is a big deal but still doesn’t outweigh all the other factors I mentioned.

 

[aria]

so what will Barkley get when he gets his $$$

For our sake, I hope he breaks the bank!

 

[Idgit]

If u take away something like 30 plays over Barkley's career that's almost half his yards. He's not in elliots league

Why would you take away his huge plays???

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

2016 Zeke was great. 2018 Barkley was great. Flip a coin between those two guys.

In all likelihood, however, neither is the player now that they were then. Zeke certainly isn't and I'm not sure Barkely looked the same after coming back from his injury last year. Prior to that injury, Zeke's game had clearly slid to the point where he was no longer nearly as explosive as Barkley. Perhaps the injury has now caused Barkley to 'catch up'. Shame that they're now running a backwards race.

 

[LatinMind]

Why would you take away his huge plays???

I'm trying to point out the. Consistency of elliot. I dont think there's ever been a rb who hits 6- 12 yards az much as he does. Elliot is hands down the best rb in the nfl.

The most Carrie's, one of toprbz in receptions. But here is where he blows everybody else out of the water, the pounding he takes on blitz pickups.

The guy is around less than 200yrds off emmitts pace in 4 fewer games.

 

[Frozen700]

Jesus Christ,

our fans suck sometimes

So if he said Zeke is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ.

Would you still make this comment?

#DontpayDak

 

[aria]

Jesus Christ,

our fans suck sometimes

Yeah, they suck alright. I guess they would really suck if they said they wanted McCarthy over Garrett or even worse, Aaron Rodgers over Dak! What a bunch of losers, I hate our fans!

 

[DanA]

I'd rather hit Barkely over Zeke too. Was there ever any confusion over who the more bruising runner was?

 

[stilltheguru]

I'd rather hit Barkely over Zeke too. Was there ever any confusion over who the more bruising runner was?

People think because Barkley weighs more hes harder to tackle and more powerful.