Florio: Dak to skip Cowboys' virtual offseason

[GimmeTheBall!]

Draft Tua..

Realistically Hurts or Herbert or Love.
Tua? Health issues. Checked out in a game against Clemson. 2 picks.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Jerry, draft a QB in the 2nd round.
Trade the diva and get linemen, save $35 million.
Hurts, Herbert or Love!!!!

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

FWIW. Didn't watch the video

Source: Dak to skip Cowboys' virtual offseason

A source tells Mike Florio Dak Prescott will skip the Cowboys' virtual offseason program as he still waits on a long-term deal with Dallas.

Leadership? Who needs leadership???

 

[Pantone282C]

But if he does not play and the Cowboys don't pay him, would our cap still take a hit for his tag amount?

No, because he has to sign to get it.

 

[Little Jr]

MaineBoy: Dak Prescott did not violate any Texas residential lock-down law. It apparently was less than 10 dinner guests. 30 people vs. <10 people IS a very big difference. It wasn't some wild open ended party. What is Dak supposed to do curl up in a fetal position and suck his thumb and obsess over the franchise tag day in, day out?

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"minimize social gatherings and minimize in-person contact with people who are not in the same household." He did not do this. Birthay party isnt minimizing it. Having people over that isnt living in your house for a birthday party, isnt minimizing it. People hovering around a table of food, hand picking the food, isnt minimizing it. Those same people standing right next to each other, while hovering over the food they are ALL picking up with there hands, isnt minimizing it. I have defended Dak as much as anyone on his play on the field and his contract demands, but I cant defend him on this one. Its a bad look and a dumb decision.

His team and the league are having to go over the top to get the draft together so they dont have to be in the same room together. Each team could easily bring the most important 10 people into the home of the gm or owner to do the draft and have the others on virtual. But they are doing it in each of there homes, or like the saints who are doing it in a brewery, but with less than 10 and all spaced out from each other. Then you have Dak bringing people over for a birthday party and dinner, standing next to each other and hand picking their food

 

[Buzzbait]

No, because he has to sign to get it.

So if he holds out and doesn't sign and we don't take a cap hit for it then they could draft a QB.
Course I don't really expect that to happen because I think Jerry will cave as usual, and I believe Dak believes that as well.
But it wouldn't hurt my feelings any if Jerry took a stand instead of caving and drafted that QB.
If he did, maybe Cabo would lose some of it's appeal. LOL

 

[Dak_Attack_09]

I get it, but the optics aren't great. At the end of the day, the guy just isn't worth the headache or the money he's asking for. It's time to start considering other options.

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[basel90]

MaineBoy: Dak Prescott did not violate any Texas residential lock-down law. It apparently was less than 10 dinner guests. 30 people vs. <10 people IS a very big difference. It wasn't some wild open ended party. What is Dak supposed to do curl up in a fetal position and suck his thumb and obsess over the franchise tag day in, day out?

Has Dak thrown inaccurate passes to receivers this past season? Sure he has. But in 2019 it wasn't even that much of an issue. Name me the quarterback in the NFC or AFC who completed every pass perfectly.

Prescott ranked as the 6th best quarterback in the NFL in 2019. Gee you think he got that ranking throwing more incompletions than completions? He threw for almost 5,000 yards, what unbelievable luck throwing for that many yards considering he throws above, behind, low and into a parallel universe to receivers.

2019 stats: 388 of 596 (65.1%) for 4,902 yards (8.2 yards per attempt), 30 TDs and 11 INTs; 71.2 QBR; 52 carries for 277 yards and three TDs.

For the record I think Dak Prescott is a very good quarterback but not an elite quarterback. With this superior coaching staff Dak might get to the next level that helps him and the team get deeper into the post season. And perhaps not as well. Maybe this is Dak's ceiling. Who can really say until we get into the regular season which may not happen thanks to the pandemic.

I am disappointed that as the leader of this team he is not participating in the virtual off-season program. The Cowboys have made some very respectable offers to Dak, so it's not like they offered him subpar compensation and terms. If he doesn't sign the franchise tag and holds out he will be playing somewhere else. We are getting close to the draft and the Cowboys and Dak really need to know where each will stand final agreement/disagreement wise.

Dak’s stats are not reflective of the reality that he is 1-6 against winning teams . He is not a QB who can make a difference on the field if the opposing defense stops the run . Dak is just too inaccurate against good defenses . A mediocre QB who is now asking to be the highest paid player in the NFL . Something is wrong .

 

[csirl]

At lot of people have made the argument that a contract in the mid 30s per year will look like a bargain in a couple of years due to cap increases/inflation.

With the risk of little or no football this year, a recession and consequental declining revenues, the cap is likely to drop significantly over the next 2-3 years.

Have the cap inflation advocates revised their position?

 

[Swagger]

At lot of people have made the argument that a contract in the mid 30s per year will look like a bargain in a couple of years due to cap increases/inflation.

With the risk of little or no football this year, a recession and consequental declining revenues, the cap is likely to drop significantly over the next 2-3 years.

Have the cap inflation advocates revised their position?

This is the point and it's a very good one. It's very dangerous to assume the cap will continue to increase regardless especially in the current climate.

It's why my stance has always been that you refer to the salary cap as it current is not what it might look like in two years. Very dangerous game. Even more reason to draft a rookie QB.

 

[cowboyed]

Dak’s stats are not reflective of the reality that he is 1-6 against winning teams . He is not a QB who can make a difference on the field if the opposing defense stops the run . Dak is just too inaccurate against good defenses . A mediocre QB who is now asking to be the highest paid player in the NFL . Something is wrong .

Most quarterbacks are limited by very good defenses and that would include throwing inaccurate passes under pressure.. But I do agree that Dak is inconsistent against the better defenses, and hampered by poorer decision making. However against the Vikings he actually performed very well against a good defense. He was passing very well, although we ended up losing the game. The point of bringing up his 2019 statistics is that he isn't as inaccurate as he is made out to be. And his supporting cast was inconsistent and our coaching last year was a detriment to overall team success.

I am not convinced Dak is elite but I would state he is a good starting quarterback.

 

[Rockport]

If I look at Super Bowl winning teams I would say that QB is the 1 position you don’t overpay.

If you’re a coach and you want to keep a job a long time then overpay a decent QB, you’ll get decent results, and you’ll never be that bad..

In terms of winning a Championship.. Even the top tier QBs getting paid a lot aren’t winning championships much less a mediocre guy like Dak.

Dak is borderline elite. You probably didn’t even know that he suffered a hairline fracture on the index finger of his throwing hand in the Chicago game. Throwing hand. Not to mention the torn ligament in his throwing shoulder after that. The only thing mediocre is your posts and that’s being generous.

 

[cowboyed]

"minimize social gatherings and minimize in-person contact with people who are not in the same household." He did not do this. Birthay party isnt minimizing it. Having people over that isnt living in your house for a birthday party, isnt minimizing it. People hovering around a table of food, hand picking the food, isnt minimizing it. Those same people standing right next to each other, while hovering over the food they are ALL picking up with there hands, isnt minimizing it. I have defended Dak as much as anyone on his play on the field and his contract demands, but I cant defend him on this one. Its a bad look and a dumb decision.

His team and the league are having to go over the top to get the draft together so they dont have to be in the same room together. Each team could easily bring the most important 10 people into the home of the gm or owner to do the draft and have the others on virtual. But they are doing it in each of there homes, or like the saints who are doing it in a brewery, but with less than 10 and all spaced out from each other. Then you have Dak bringing people over for a birthday party and dinner, standing next to each other and hand picking their food

I appreciate your points and it would be best to minimize contact with others under the recommendations. My original response was to the negative news hype that was unfounded that there were 30+ people and they were partying.

 

[Pantone282C]

So if he holds out and doesn't sign and we don't take a cap hit for it then they could draft a QB.
Course I don't really expect that to happen because I think Jerry will cave as usual, and I believe Dak believes that as well.
But it wouldn't hurt my feelings any if Jerry took a stand instead of caving and drafted that QB.
If he did, maybe Cabo would lose some of it's appeal. LOL

Good one. Of course, the big downside for the front office is having to keep that money in suspension for when the player does sign. Let's say they sign other players, they would have to cut someone if not several. Very few players have sat out for a season by not signing. QBs are unlikely to do so.

 

[OmerV]

Well if that's the new level for the bar, I'm sure there's a lot of QBs who would like to apply for the job.

Not every QB is at a Wentz or Dak level though. The market isn't the same for every QB at every level.

 

[Little Jr]

This is the point and it's a very good one. It's very dangerous to assume the cap will continue to increase regardless especially in the current climate.

It's why my stance has always been that you refer to the salary cap as it current is not what it might look like in two years. Very dangerous game. Even more reason to draft a rookie QB.

In the history of the cap, it has gone up about(+- a bit) as much as the year before except for 2011-13 after the cba and before the new tv deal, where it went up a total of only 3m in 3 years. Other than that, it has consistently went up. Out of 26 years of the cap, teams could look 2 years ahead and except for 3 years. And even those 3 years, the owners new it wasnt going up much because of the new tv deals. So they have always know what it would look like 2 years ahead of time. So its not dangerous and you cant go into a contract expecting a pandemic to hit the country like covid. The 2008 recession happened in the fall and the cap went up in 7m in 2009, the same jump it did the previous year.

 

[basel90]

Most quarterbacks are limited by very good defenses and that would include throwing inaccurate passes under pressure.. But I do agree that Dak is inconsistent against the better defenses, and hampered by poorer decision making. However against the Vikings he actually performed very well against a good defense. He was passing very well, although we ended up losing the game. The point of bringing up his 2019 statistics is that he isn't as inaccurate as he is made out to be. And his supporting cast was inconsistent and our coaching last year was a detriment to overall team success.

I am not convinced Dak is elite but I would state he is a good starting quarterback.

Fair points . Am just wondering the cost / benefit analysis with Dak . Demanding 35+ mil for 4 + years . Seems as a big risk with an average QB whom we don’t think can lead this team to a super bowl .

 

[csirl]

In the history of the cap, it has gone up about(+- a bit) as much as the year before except for 2011-13 after the cba and before the new tv deal, where it went up a total of only 3m in 3 years. Other than that, it has consistently went up. Out of 26 years of the cap, teams could look 2 years ahead and except for 3 years. And even those 3 years, the owners new it wasnt going up much because of the new tv deals. So they have always know what it would look like 2 years ahead of time. So its not dangerous and you cant go into a contract expecting a pandemic to hit the country like covid. The 2008 recession happened in the fall and the cap went up in 7m in 2009, the same jump it did the previous year.

There's a big difference between now and 2008. The league cannot play games right now, so it has very little income. The chances of a full season with full revenues is very slim.

 

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[OmerV]

Fair points . Am just wondering the cost / benefit analysis with Dak . Demanding 35+ mil for 4 + years . Seems as a big risk with an average QB whom we don’t think can lead this team to a super bowl .

Who is the "we"? Apparently the Cowboys think Dak can lead the team to the super bowl, therefore this isn't a logical argument for them. Fans are mixed on it, but clearly some fans think Dak can QB as SB winning team, so even among fans this logic only applies to a certain %.

Of course, we really don't know what Dak is "demanding", but $35 million/year for 4 years seems at least in the ballpark of where the market for QBs at Dak's level is trending.