Twitter: Dak was second most accurate (64.3%) in NFL on 3rd & 5+ in 2019

[mattjames2010]

For the record, I'm against Dak getting paid top overall pay. I've made my stance very clear about that for months now, so don't be falsely accusing me of supporting something I actually don't just because I like Dak.

LOL right, I guess that was between all the thirsty Dak posts you make every day when people point out his obvious flaws. How could I have missed it?

 

[mattjames2010]

How in the hell is supporting Dak is hurting the team? Go back to bed.

Oh, you're going to lose the debate again....

Shall we pull up again how paying a QB a boat load of money hurts the team? Tell me, how many Super Bowls has Brees and Rodgers won since getting big contracts? Wilson? Roethlisberger?

 

[mattjames2010]

Right. All so they can say they were right. Same guys who didn't want us to draft him to begin with.

Didn't want us to draft him? This place didn't even care about Dak. He was an afterthought. You think there was a campaign against him? What are you talking about?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Oh, you're going to lose the debate again....

Shall we pull up again how paying a QB a boat load of money hurts the team? Tell me, how many Super Bowls has Brees and Rodgers won since getting big contracts? Wilson? Roethlisberger?

First off this isn't a debate. I asked you how does rooting for Dak and supporting him hurt the team? Its moronic but it explains why guys like you exist. You think rooting against him means something lol. As if it will sway the Jones's to not sign him.

 

[Redball Express]

I just replied to you with an article link that fully explains and should answer all of your questions. If you still insist on blaming Dak, you simply hate the player even though the results prove he's not the one to blame for an 8-8 2019 season.

We are fine.

The article weighs it one way.

I can agree to a point.

It's a team sport. It's hard to pin blame but we all do one way or another.

But while it's a sport to us fans..

we really are pretty clueless.

It's actually entertainment and the owner are in the business of making money.

Not making the fans happy necessarily.

Jerrah moved from oil wells to sports now as his MAIN financial avenue. Drilling wildcat wells do not have players to pay and stadiumsto pay for, etc..

so it's all very different with fans and people. People want results. Sometimes that is unrealistic.

So the reasons for 2019 were the same reasons as before.

Jerrah was too much in control and had too many 'yes men' on his staff. In McCarthy Jerrah has given some control back to his HC like he did with Parcells.

That's what I see. Parcells was brought in to sell tickets for the new stadium. We all knew that.

McCarthy is brought here to fix the broken legacy after 25 years of neglect.

Am I close in my thought process?

 

[Tangle_Foot]

If Dak was so accurate he wouldn't be over throwing his contract, it's simple pitch and catch

 

[mattjames2010]

First off this isn't a debate. I asked you how does rooting for Dak and supporting him hurt the team? Its moronic but it explains why guys like you exist. You think rooting against him means something lol. As if it will sway the Jones's to not sign him.

You hopped into the middle of a debate, and now you're going to lose....as always. And you're also making some weird claim that there was some big number of people AGAINST drafting Dak.

Nobody cared about Dak. He was a decent college QB snagged in the 4th round. Nobody was thinking about him or angry he was drafted lol Where do you even come up with this crap?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Didn't want us to draft him? This place didn't even care about Dak. He was an afterthought. You think there was a campaign against him? What are you talking about?

In 2016........there were people who wanted Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You hopped into the middle of a debate, and now you're going to lose....as always. And you're also making some weird claim that there was some big number of people AGAINST drafting Dak.

Nobody cared about Dak. He was a decent college QB snagged in the 4th round. Nobody was thinking about him or angry he was drafted lol Where do you even come up with this crap?

You are clueless. I'm saying people wanted quarterback addressed higher than in the 4th round. When Dak was drafted people thought he'd be a backup at best. Keep up Matthew. This is why I told you to go to bed. You are sleep walking.

 

[mattjames2010]

In 2016........there were people who wanted Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook.

LOL you think that's what this is? People are still holding a grudge because we didn't draft Lynch or Cook? Again, the vast majority of this board or any Cowboys fan, didn't give a crap that we drafted Prescott. Lynch went in the first round, we got Prescott a couple days later. He didn't get in the way of grabbing Lynch.

Imagine thinking THAT is the reason people don't like Prescott, like it was some inherent hate for a 4th round pick rather than people evaluating his play since he came into the league. You're a really goofy dude.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

LOL you think that's what this is? People are still holding a grudge because we didn't draft Lynch or Cook? Again, the vast majority of this board or any Cowboys fan, didn't give a crap that we drafted Prescott. Lynch went in the first round, we got Prescott a couple days later. He didn't get in the way of grabbing Lynch.

Imagine thinking THAT is the reason people don't like Prescott, like it was some inherent hate for a 4th round pick rather than people evaluating his play since he came into the league. You're a really goofy dude.

I told you up top what it is. Follow me. You sitting here wanting to say you were "right" on Dak. You're playing dumb...or maybe you aren't playing. I don't know what it is. Its hard to decipher when you are trolling or just being dumb. Especially after the whole Kobe Bryant charade you put on.

 

[CATCH17]

Nope you’re welcome to your opinion. I think the kid is a winner I think it’s the scheme in the coaching. He’s the best quarterback in his draft class

Carson Wentz is better then he is.. The only thing he has on Wentz is hes better staying healthy.. It ends there when it comes to ability.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Carson Wentz is better then he is.. The only thing he has on Wentz is hes better staying healthy.. It ends there when it comes to ability.

Sure hasn't been displayed on the field.....well except in 2017.......

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

I think you are fighting a losing battle here.

I went to college and studied psyche. In those classes I had to take a year of statistics to advance.

I was studying behavior modification in rats. I learned alot about stats. One thing is that you can pretty much make them say whatever you want by asking only one question.

Does A cause B equal C and are there any other variables atwork that effect C.

Your saying I am moving the goalposts is a typical answer to a science question you are not so hooked in to know how to find a real answer.

This is not your fault. Maybe I may have a bit more background about my vision of what I believe.

If you are happy with yours, fine. But try to stay away from the hollow critiques of others.

It anything, it highlights what you don't really know nor possibly understand yourself.

We will just agree to disagree.

Thanx for the exchange. I will follow your post going forward.

Is this for real? I usually only find posts like this in r/iamverysmart.

 

[Redball Express]

This supposed "best player" came up short many times on short run plays needed to keep drives alive. Granted, it's not all on him. This highest paid in the league Oline also didn't open up lanes for Zeke to run through when it mattered the most.

I agree.

Somewhere along the way we have lost the "All for one..one for all" mentality we finished 2016 with.

Goodell had alot to do with this with Zeke's suspension.

But the mojo was gone and we came down to earth with a thud.

2018 was a lurch in the right direction and Dak won alot of close games. The arrow was up.

3019 crashed and burned. Dak could not win games and lost his touch to win in the 4th qt.

That name keeps popping up for me. Dak is a double edge sword.

Romo was much the same.

Romo was lesson #1.

Dak is lesson #2.

Have learned anything b/w the two?

I think not.

 

[Brax]

You're the one that attributed the 8-8 record for a Prescott bash attempt. Then try to turn it around blaming others of doing it to fit their narrative? What a great contribution!

Missed every point I guess, RIF.

 

[johneric8]

So your post begs the question..

3rd and long?

What does that indicate?

To me it says we are getting into too many 3rd and longs and that leads to more failure.

So why is that?

What are Dak's stats on downs 1-2?

It would appear he is not getting downfield alot..

that possibly he is not as productive there and then it makes everything be dependent on 3rd downs.

It would also indicate that on early downs passing is reduced to short throws..

like to Zeke, Witten and Pollard.

Stats are fine but I always chuckle at people who want to selectively use them to support whatever point they are pushing.

Other factors like the playcalling by Moore affect how Dak has to perform. So many things that have to be weighed.

Good try..but got to give you an 'incomplete' here.

Try again.

These are stats from a source not the poster! For as much negativity that Dak gets on this forum I think a stat like that is more than noteworthy.
Where you fail redball is when you say this poster deserves an incomplete because I don't believe there is any stat that shows the cowboys
had an abundantly more 3rd downs than other teams. This is simply accuracy percentage during 3rd down which simply shows that Dak excelled.
Remember this is a percentage of good passes during a key down. When you ask for Daks stats on 1st and 2nd that wasn't the metric and stat
that was researched, but I can tell you that he has very good stats all around the board.

So for those of you that say these awesome stats Dak put up are irrelevant that I would say so is y'all s proverbial eye test!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Incorrect.

Last seasons 8-8 was on the failed head coach.

You can't blame Dak for the worst special teams in the league.

You can't blame Dak for the worst kicker in the league.

You can't blame Dak for the worst starting field position in the league.

I didn't blame dak for any of those things.

Are ya telling me Dak was perfect..without any fault?

I think you're confusing me with a Dak hater. You do not have to apologize for him to me.

 

[johneric8]

On 1st downs he has a 57% success rate which is 3rd in the nfl and 7.8 Y/A which is 10th in the NFL.

On 2nd downs he has a 54% success rate which is 1st int the NFL and 8.3 Y/A which is 2nd in the NFL.

Combine 1st and 2nd downs he has a 56% success rate which is 1st in the NFL and 8.1 Y/A which is 2nd in the NFL.

Hope Redball didn't see this considering he was just wondering aloud how Dak did on other downs besides 3rd and 5 plus... YIKES... @Redball Express
But I know Redball, he still sucks right?

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Lmao then a year later in October of 2019, he walked those back and said he was impressed with Daks improvement in those categories. All the to the tune of him calling for Dak to get paid.

If you want the official quote you gotta google it, it’s an interview from a site we can’t post here. Can’t even say their name lol

I know of it. But when did he "walk it back". Mid season? After our last game?

I wasn't trying to prove anything specific. I saw some great things in 2019 and some not so great.