News: NFL: Stephen Jones: We'll sign Prescott at the right number

bewp7

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i wish stephen and jerry and everyone else in the cowboys organization would stop playing games because every one knows how this ends. they went all in on dak and they have no choice but to give him exactly what he wants and dak and his agent know it. sign him for 4 years and move on already, dragging this out is stupid and can only hurt the cowboys and their super bowl chances.
 

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it's the coaches, offensive line, special teams, and defense fault, oops wrong excuses. I guess Jerry doesn't think he's the best quarterback in the league like the "dak slobbers".
 

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it's the coaches, offensive line, special teams, and defense fault, oops wrong excuses. I guess Jerry doesn't think he's the best quarterback in the league like the "dak slobbers".
There’s already a big money offer on the table. A deal will get done.

Dak is holding out for a shorter deal so he can cash in AGAIN a year sooner. Jerry wants him to sign for 5 years.

I know it hurts, Mr. Inferior.
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SJ at it again with the team friendly **** trying to get the public on his side. From some these comments, its working.
the public is cowboys fans who have been waiting for 25+ years for a super bowl. The public does not see why an non elite QB like dak wants to max out and get paid mahomes money , and won't take 33-35 mil after going 1-6 against decent teams last year. The public knows the cowboys need help to sign quality players on defense and offense to have the support cast needed to win a super bowl. It is about a team, not an entitled overrated QB who has done nothing so far.
 

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Dak's agent is notorious for playing hardball.

I have no doubt Dak can get more money in a NFL contract from another team if he plays out two franchise tags with Dallas and becomes an unrestricted free agent.

But the total amount of money he can earn being the Cowboys QB with endorsements has to easily surpass what he'd get playing for some random team.

I support the Cowboys standing their ground here.
 

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I have very little doubt he misses even one OTA...if they happen.

Because they arent, I see no rush. If I'm Jerry, I'd write that signing bonus check later than sooner.

He definitely wont miss a day of camp because neither side wants to miss the July 15 deadline.
I hope he misses otas. And denucci unseats him and noodle arm! Heck , hope he unseats Chris Jones at punter too lol
 

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I think Dak's offer guaranteed $105mil, no? That's hardly $20mil less, as someone suggested..

You are mixing up two different points I made. The $20 million dollar figure I said was comparing what Dak's contract will pay out in a fifth year to what free agent qbs will be signing for five years from now. I wasn't referring to Goff's contract there.

That being said, this article says Dak's contract should be paying at least $125 million guaranteed.

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp...cowboys-projection/1w1hclobw1xl21chfj8am7hnc6

"Prescott will be aiming to exceed the current highest guarantee of $110 million in Goff's contract. With Goff having 82 percent of his contract guaranteed and Wilson at 76 percent, it's logical to figure Prescott's guarantee will land at a minimum of $125 million (71 percent of the $175 million) on a five-year deal. Mahomes will also blast by that mark when his new deal is done."

That figure in the article is assuming Dak gets $35 million a year though. If Dak were to get $33.5 million a year (I think that is the last offer from the team) then the guaranteed money should be around $119 million.
 
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What have the Cowboys offered?

And you don’t understand the structure Goff got. It was a four year extension tacked on to the remaining two years of his rookie deal, which allowed them to spread money over more than just four years.

The last reported offer I saw was $33.5 million a year for five years , $105 million guaranteed. I do understand the structure. I also understand that comparatively the Rams had more leverage on Goff than the Cowboys have on Dak. The Cowboys only have two franchise tags remaining. The Rams at the time had year 4, a fifth year option, and two tags. Had the Cowboys come to the table with a comparable offer after Dak's third season they could have spread the money better as well. But at that point they were only offering $25 million a year. The fact that they don't have more years to spread the money around is because they were lowballing him.
 

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Should have signed Famous Jameis on the cheap and had $30million dollars to spend. Get a better player in Jameis and have money to spend. No way a healthy cam newton, Andy Dalton or famous jameis couldn’t win at least the same 8 games we did last year.

and all that “leverage” everybody thinks dak has. Yea, he doesn’t have any leverage at all. He will either sign the tag by July or be holding a clipboard for $1m on another team next year. Either way, if he doesn’t bring a super bowl to the negotiating table next year, he gone.
 

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Should have signed Famous Jameis on the cheap and had $30million dollars to spend. Get a better player in Jameis and have money to spend. No way a healthy cam newton, Andy Dalton or famous jameis couldn’t win at least the same 8 games we did last year.

and all that “leverage” everybody thinks dak has. Yea, he doesn’t have any leverage at all. He will either sign the tag by July or be holding a clipboard for $1m on another team next year. Either way, if he doesn’t bring a super bowl to the negotiating table next year, he gone.

Dak isn't afraid of playing on the tag. I actually think he would prefer to play on the tag and end up signing his deal after Mahomes and Watson. He mostly has an even better statistical season under McCarthy with weapons everywhere and either gets franchised again for $37 million or is the #1 free agent qb.
 

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What's there to trust? A contract is a contract. The parameters are already out there.

Dak wants 4 years so he can seemingly cash in again sooner. Cowboys want 6 years to spread the cap hit like the Eagles did with Wentz and Rams did with Goff. The Cowboys are on the right side of this, not Dak.

Then the Cowboys should have no problem paying Dak the same amount of money that Goff and Wentz got over the 1st 4 years of their contract with the Eagles and Rams. So Dak may very well get his $40 million a year deal!

Nobody cried (including Dak) when he was on average the 77th highest paid QB in the NFL. NOBODY. That was a Dak Prescott problem and not a Dallas Cowboys problem...and I agree. Dak never held out or even threaten to hold out...he performed his contractual obligations...even while the Matt Staffords of the world made more in 1 half than Dak was making in one entire season.

But your assertion that Dak should sign a 6 year contract and lock himself into a deal that will cause him to be underpaid AGAIN in 4 years is a nonstarter.

Now the Cowboys wanting to spread out the cap hit over 6 years instead of 4 years...ready...wait for it...sounds like a Dallas Cowboys problem...and not a Dak Prescott one.
 

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What have the Cowboys offered?

And you don’t understand the structure Goff got. It was a four year extension tacked on to the remaining two years of his rookie deal, which allowed them to spread money over more than just four years.

Perfect. Let's treat Dak Prescott like Goff and Wentz...The Cowboys can start by giving Dak the same amount of money that Wentz and Goff got for their first 4 years in the NFL. Then Dak can spread that out over 6 years too!!

EDIT: Looks like Jared Goff got $30 million over his first 4 years...it looks like Dak Prescott got $4 million.

Dak looks forward to being paid (back pay) his $26 million dollars.
 
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well hes not just an avg qb.

Everytime he's play the "elite" guys he's played with them or even better. He's outplayed Rodgers, Goff, and Wilson in his playoff games. Its not his fault the defense couldnt stop the rams or packers. Daks rookie yr he was great in close games winning on late drives. Then from 2017-2019 the offensive coaches tried to get cute and them close games started to go the other way.

Dak deserves to be paid higher than Wentz and Goff because he's played better and has out performed them. Its not his fault the market is overpaying QBs.

Just a reminder. Dak choked away three games last year following his statement he wanted the ball in his hand when it counts.
 

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Then the Cowboys should have no problem paying Dak the same amount of money that Goff and Wentz got over the 1st 4 years of their contract with the Eagles and Rams. So Dak may very well get his $40 million a year deal!

Nobody cried (including Dak) when he was on average the 77th highest paid QB in the NFL. NOBODY. That was a Dak Prescott problem and not a Dallas Cowboys problem...and I agree. Dak never held out or even threaten to hold out...he performed his contractual obligations...even while the Matt Staffords of the world made more in 1 half than Dak was making in one entire season.

But your assertion that Dak should sign a 6 year contract and lock himself into a deal that will cause him to be underpaid AGAIN in 4 years is a nonstarter.

Now the Cowboys wanting to spread out the cap hit over 6 years instead of 4 years...ready...wait for it...sounds like a Dallas Cowboys problem...and not a Dak Prescott one.
Dak was paid based on his draft position. Did you hit your head on something? Guess he should have been a better college QB. How is that the Cowboys fault? At least they gave him a chance when no one else would.
 

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Dak was paid based on his draft position. Did you hit your head on something? Guess he should have been a better college QB. How is that the Cowboys fault? At least they gave him a chance when no one else would.

You clearly did not read my post. But you're damn right...as I SAID...that was a Dak problem he wasn't drafted higher...it is also NOT a Dak problem NOW that the Cowboys want to sign him to a 6 year deal to spread out the cap hit...that is a COWBOYS problem.

The Cowboys want ALL the structural benefits of a rookie QB first round deal...all while...get this...paying him as a 4th rounder...No...if you want him to sign a 6 year deal to match Wentz and Goff...the Cowboys can start by PAYING Dak his back pay that Wentz and Goff too.
 

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You clearly did not read my post. But you're damn right...as I SAID...that was a Dak problem he wasn't drafted higher...it is also NOT a Dak problem NOW that the Cowboys want to sign him to a 6 year deal to spread out the cap hit...that is a COWBOYS problem.

The Cowboys want ALL the structural benefits of a rookie QB first round deal...all while...get this...paying him as a 4th rounder...No...if you want him to sign a 6 year deal to match Wentz and Goff...the Cowboys can start by PAYING Dak his back pay that Wentz and Goff too.
Back pay is a made up thing you created in your mind.

In the real world you are worth what someone is willing to pay you. Not more. He was a 4th rd pick developmental QB.

Granted... he turned out better than expected, but back pay is silly.
 

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nah deserves whatever his employer feels hes worth..no set numbers for any player, its a negotiation and for sure dak is not better then wentz , they are in the same ballpark, so more is bs narrative..no one deserves anything when we are talking 30plus million you get no sympathy from Joe average public..

he is above average but thats where it stops hes top 10 and wants top 1-3 money or more..NO way hes that QB, if you think that you need to get some air..those fumes are messing with your reality..

he was offered top 5 deal and IMHO that great take it get more in 4-5 years..
At draft time, I was a huge fan of Wentz but I'm here to tell you that if you think Wentz is a good as Dak, you're not paying attention. Wentz has more wormburners and airballs than I have ever seen in a 1st rnd pick. He has a bigger arm than Dak, that's true but that is the only thing. Dak is cool under pressure, has a good enough arm, can run, and has a knack for comebacks. He has been a victim of one of the worst drop rate receiving corps in the NFL. This was a talking point for Wentz apologists in the past (not sure if you were one of those) why is that suddenly no excuse for Dak. Do I think Dak deserves to be the highest paid player in football? NO. Do I think he is the best Qb in football? No, but he isn't junk either and he has been better than Wentz from day one and is still better than Wentz, just not 40 mill worth better.
 
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