News: Dallas Cowboys have unprecedented depth in the trenches

CCBoy

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The RDE position specifically is a question mark. I like the rest, but that spot is an area of concern.
:)

I have to admit that I haven't seen any of these names on the list above:

20. Charles Haley
San Francisco 49ers, 1986-1991, 1998-1999; Dallas Cowboys, 1992-1996
» Five-time Super Bowl champion
» Voted to five Pro Bowls, First Team All-Pro two times
» Two-time NFC Defensive Player of the Year
» Recorded 100.5 career sacks and 26 forced fumbles
» Enshrined into the Pro Football Hall of Fame


16. Ed 'Too Tall' Jones
Dallas Cowboys, 1974-1989
» One-time Super Bowl champion
» Voted to three Pro Bowls, First Team All-Pro one time
» Unofficially recorded 106 career sacks and 19 fumble recoveries
» Fifth-leading tackler in Cowboys history with 1,032
» Could have been one of all-time greats if he hadn't interrupted football career with foray into boxing


12. Harvey Martin
Dallas Cowboys, 1973-1983
» One-time Super Bowl champion, Super Bowl XII MVP
» Voted to four Pro Bowls, First Team All-Pro one time
» 1977 NFL Defensive Player of the Year
» NFL 1970s All-Decade Team
» Officially credited by Cowboys with 114 career sacks; high of 23 in 1977

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I'll call in The Medicine Woman...
 

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We say this every year just for them to underwhelm. Its hard to tell now. If everyone plays to their capabilities then yeah there's some depth there for sure.
 

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It is. Imagine Rapp or Thornhill over Hill. Imagine Watt over Taco. Could have easily happened. Rod Marinelli did some serious damage. The defense would be beastly if not for those major, but avoidable, drafting mistakes.

At least, we aren't Cleveland and the drafting group definitely 'recovered.'
 

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We say this every year just for them to underwhelm. Its hard to tell now. If everyone plays to their capabilities then yeah there's some depth there for sure.
Quit just giving an emotional response...build a legit case and discuss.
 

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At least, we aren't Cleveland and the drafting group definitely 'recovered.'

I just looked it up. Watt is even better than I thought. Guy forced 8 fumbles last year. 8!. He's a human turnover making machine. Taco is on to his third team.
 

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I just looked it up. Watt is even better than I thought. Guy forced 8 fumbles last year. 8!. He's a human turnover making machine. Taco is on to his third team.
I must acknowledge that is true...(mumbling to self). Still a fan!:starspin:
 

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I just looked it up. Watt is even better than I thought. Guy forced 8 fumbles last year. 8!. He's a human turnover making machine. Taco is on to his third team.

He'll earn a NFL retirement...
 

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Crawford is an oddity. I could see him making the team as an insurance policy that gets cashed in if the lottery tickets don’t pan out. (McCoy, Poe, Smith, Gregory). But if they pan out he could easily get cut.

While he is solid and his floor is high his ceiling doesn’t appear to be very high. It will be interesting to see what we do with him.

I think they will want to keep him so that when his contract expires and they will let him walk hoping for a draft pick out of him. I’m not sure he will be worth the roster spot.
 

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Crawford is an oddity. I could see him making the team as an insurance policy that gets cashed in if the lottery tickets don’t pan out. (McCoy, Poe, Smith, Gregory). But if they pan out he could easily get cut.

While he is solid and his floor is high his ceiling doesn’t appear to be very high. It will be interesting to see what we do with him.

I think they will want to keep him so that when his contract expires and they will let him walk hoping for a draft pick out of him. I’m not sure he will be worth the roster spot.

This season will be a long one and it will take every last man who makes the final roster.
 

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Point, have you be watching the quality of free agents as well as draft picks recently? Doubt the process...as being uninformed or stupid?

I have no idea what this means. Please clarify.
 

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This season will be a long one and it will take every last man who makes the final roster.

Of course it will. The question is how many spots can they use for these guys? The longer they go on the lines the shorter they will be at other positions.

In a perfect world you would keep Crawford as Insurance. But roster spots are valuable.
 

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It is. Imagine Rapp or Thornhill over Hill. Imagine Watt over Taco. Could have easily happened. Rod Marinelli did some serious damage. The defense would be beastly if not for those major, but avoidable, drafting mistakes.

Sadly, Marinelli was allowed too much influence and his decisions did a ton of damage to the defense which they're still trying to recover from.

If the team had made the right decisions, we'd have Watt at RDE and be counting our good fortune, and Thornhill solving at least one of our safety spots.
 

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Crawford is an oddity. I could see him making the team as an insurance policy that gets cashed in if the lottery tickets don’t pan out. (McCoy, Poe, Smith, Gregory). But if they pan out he could easily get cut.

While he is solid and his floor is high his ceiling doesn’t appear to be very high. It will be interesting to see what we do with him.

I think they will want to keep him so that when his contract expires and they will let him walk hoping for a draft pick out of him. I’m not sure he will be worth the roster spot.

Crawford has no place on this team. Certainly not at a $9.1 million cap hit. They've literally had to find somewhere to put him for years now, while still paying top dollar.

"Oddity" is too kind of a word for it.
 

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Quit just giving an emotional response...build a legit case and discuss.
Build a legit case against what? I said what I said. We say this every year. Did I not tell you if that everyone hits their potential we should have some depth there?What the hell else did you expect me to say?
 

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Let's note that it was scouts and Jerry and Stephen and the coaches that concluded they could win with Hurns, Austin, Beasley at WR and that turned out to be totally wrong. It's the same front office that determined Garrett was a great coach and employed him for nearly a decade. It's the same front office and scouting department that built flawed teams that won 2 playoff games in a decade.

This isn't to show that I am smarter than them. It's to show that they clearly aren't infallible and can and have made some pretty big mistakes.

Gregory and Smith HAD above average talents and skills. We don't know if they still have the skills that made them elite edge players. Gregory isn't a 22 year old anymore. He's going to be 28 during the season and hasn't played football since the 2018 season. Smith will be 31 at the end of September. He hasn't played in a NFL game since Nov 2015, over 4 years. How in the world do you know what kind of player he is at this point in his career?

The Haley comparison makes no sense. No one suggested lower drafted guys can't develop. But it's not a foregone conclusion. In fact, way more players drafted in the middle to lower rounds fail than succeed........ by a significant amount. So you can't just sit there and say, hey, Charles Haley was drafted in the 4th so Anae or Jackson or Jelks or all three are definitely going to become players for us.

Good night, son...sing your dilusional song in your own beer. Back to total ignore...
 

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Build a legit case against what? I said what I said. We say this every year. Did I not tell you if that everyone hits their potential we should have some depth there?What the hell else did you expect me to say?

Learn that answer for yourself...back to ignore.
 
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