I have never heard a Dak fan explain why 1 playoff win is better than a Super Bowl win

[DFWJC]

First of all, I apologize in advance - yes I know, it's yet another Dak thread. We've had hundreds of them already. So I apologize.

Secondly, I am well aware that Dak has won a playoff game. I know perfectly well, because I was there myself in attendance at AT&T Stadium that night. Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.


What I have never yet heard is a convincing explanation from a Dak supporter as to why Dak's one playoff win trumps Mahomes' four playoff wins, including a Super Bowl title. I am not a particularly math-literate person, but all arithmetic I've ever learned in my life points to four being greater than one.

The reason I'm using Mahomes as an example is because many fans are arguing that Dak should be the highest-paid quarterback in the entire league, higher than even Mahomes himself (or Brees, Brady, etc.)

Before Dak became the starting quarterback, the prevailing sentiment was that "it's Super Bowls that count, not mere playoff wins." After all, Blake Bortles has won a playoff game. But now that Dak is going through contract negotiations, suddenly one wild-card playoff win is considered to trump a Super Bowl championship itself. I cannot think of any logic, no matter how contorted, that justifies that line of reasoning.

Perhaps one will argue, "well, it's stats that count, not Super Bowl titles." But even going by stats alone, Mahomes significantly outperforms Dak.

The argument for Dak being the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL amounts to this: "A quarterback with lesser stats and a 1-2 record in the playoffs deserves to be paid more than a quarterback with better stats and a 4-1 playoff record, including a Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP honors." If someone can justify that in a way that would make sense to my ears, I'm all ears.

Pretty sure that no sane person on earth is saying Dak is better than Mahomes.
Their contract years are just not aligned.

I DO think they need to stop this ridiculous cycle of just assuming the next man up gets the most pay. That's just nonsense.

 

[Kaiser]

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.

Has anyone here ever said he is #1? Is that where the goalposts have moved to?

 

[Proof]

What a wild and hilarious thread. I love it.

 

[Ranching]

First of all, I apologize in advance - yes I know, it's yet another Dak thread. We've had hundreds of them already. So I apologize.

Secondly, I am well aware that Dak has won a playoff game. I know perfectly well, because I was there myself in attendance at AT&T Stadium that night. Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.


What I have never yet heard is a convincing explanation from a Dak supporter as to why Dak's one playoff win trumps Mahomes' four playoff wins, including a Super Bowl title. I am not a particularly math-literate person, but all arithmetic I've ever learned in my life points to four being greater than one.

The reason I'm using Mahomes as an example is because many fans are arguing that Dak should be the highest-paid quarterback in the entire league, higher than even Mahomes himself (or Brees, Brady, etc.)

Before Dak became the starting quarterback, the prevailing sentiment was that "it's Super Bowls that count, not mere playoff wins." After all, Blake Bortles has won a playoff game. But now that Dak is going through contract negotiations, suddenly one wild-card playoff win is considered to trump a Super Bowl championship itself. I cannot think of any logic, no matter how contorted, that justifies that line of reasoning.

Perhaps one will argue, "well, it's stats that count, not Super Bowl titles." But even going by stats alone, Mahomes significantly outperforms Dak.

The argument for Dak being the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL amounts to this: "A quarterback with lesser stats and a 1-2 record in the playoffs deserves to be paid more than a quarterback with better stats and a 4-1 playoff record, including a Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP honors." If someone can justify that in a way that would make sense to my ears, I'm all ears.

Meh??? You can say it's not a hate thread, but it is. Since when do fans have to justify salaries? Let the owners worry about that and just enjoy being a fan. All these people fighting over other people's money makes me sick!!!! I'm sure many of you don't deserve what you get paid every week and others are underpaid. That's life, get over it!

 

[cowboygo]

What a wild and hilarious thread. I love it.

My initial reply is awaiting moderator approval LOL.

 

[America's Cowboy]

 

[Red Dragon]

My initial reply is awaiting moderator approval LOL.

Yeah I am not sure what is up with that. Either this is an automatic function for all posts from now on, or else they are screening for key words.

 

[Red Dragon]

Chris Jones should get paid more than Aaron Donald because Jones won a super bowl and Donald didn't, right @Red Dragon ?

That's the logic some use, yes.

 

[Redball Express]

First of all, I apologize in advance - yes I know, it's yet another Dak thread. We've had hundreds of them already. So I apologize.

Secondly, I am well aware that Dak has won a playoff game. I know perfectly well, because I was there myself in attendance at AT&T Stadium that night. Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.


What I have never yet heard is a convincing explanation from a Dak supporter as to why Dak's one playoff win trumps Mahomes' four playoff wins, including a Super Bowl title. I am not a particularly math-literate person, but all arithmetic I've ever learned in my life points to four being greater than one.

The reason I'm using Mahomes as an example is because many fans are arguing that Dak should be the highest-paid quarterback in the entire league, higher than even Mahomes himself (or Brees, Brady, etc.)

Before Dak became the starting quarterback, the prevailing sentiment was that "it's Super Bowls that count, not mere playoff wins." After all, Blake Bortles has won a playoff game. But now that Dak is going through contract negotiations, suddenly one wild-card playoff win is considered to trump a Super Bowl championship itself. I cannot think of any logic, no matter how contorted, that justifies that line of reasoning.

Perhaps one will argue, "well, it's stats that count, not Super Bowl titles." But even going by stats alone, Mahomes significantly outperforms Dak.

The argument for Dak being the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL amounts to this: "A quarterback with lesser stats and a 1-2 record in the playoffs deserves to be paid more than a quarterback with better stats and a 4-1 playoff record, including a Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP honors." If someone can justify that in a way that would make sense to my ears, I'm all ears.

Daks agent took New Math in HS.

He has been trying to make it work his whole life.

His first job was at Baskin-Robbins but he got fired to giving his friends "freebies"

Then he was out of work for about 6 years and living with his parents.

Now he sits in their basement doing professional football contracts for guys like Dak.

No office, just a Lear Jet and a Hummer which he leases for tax writeoffs.

Dak knows he needs a new agent who doesn't use New Math to figure his commishes but he signed a lousy deal in which he forfeits his entire 5th year of any contract to his agent.

Thats the hangup in the deal.

Dak wants to stiff his agent.

No can do.

 

[QuincyCarterEra]

That's the logic some use, yes.

Ahh so this was satire. Gotcha.

 

[bandfan]

Because if the next guy up stops getting paid then everybody winds up in court arguing about collusion and price fixing.

 

[Kaiser]

My initial reply is awaiting moderator approval LOL.

Godspeed!

 

[JoeKing]

First of all, I apologize in advance - yes I know, it's yet another Dak thread. We've had hundreds of them already. So I apologize.

Secondly, I am well aware that Dak has won a playoff game. I know perfectly well, because I was there myself in attendance at AT&T Stadium that night. Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.


What I have never yet heard is a convincing explanation from a Dak supporter as to why Dak's one playoff win trumps Mahomes' four playoff wins, including a Super Bowl title. I am not a particularly math-literate person, but all arithmetic I've ever learned in my life points to four being greater than one.

The reason I'm using Mahomes as an example is because many fans are arguing that Dak should be the highest-paid quarterback in the entire league, higher than even Mahomes himself (or Brees, Brady, etc.)

Before Dak became the starting quarterback, the prevailing sentiment was that "it's Super Bowls that count, not mere playoff wins." After all, Blake Bortles has won a playoff game. But now that Dak is going through contract negotiations, suddenly one wild-card playoff win is considered to trump a Super Bowl championship itself. I cannot think of any logic, no matter how contorted, that justifies that line of reasoning.

Perhaps one will argue, "well, it's stats that count, not Super Bowl titles." But even going by stats alone, Mahomes significantly outperforms Dak.

The argument for Dak being the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL amounts to this: "A quarterback with lesser stats and a 1-2 record in the playoffs deserves to be paid more than a quarterback with better stats and a 4-1 playoff record, including a Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP honors." If someone can justify that in a way that would make sense to my ears, I'm all ears.

Clearly, a SB win is > 1 playoff win. But they are both "team wins" so those events do not in and of themselves show which QB is better. Having said that, many of you are going to assume I'm saying Dak is better than Pat... I'm not making that point. Pat is a good QB on an excellent team which makes him appear better than he would be if he were on a different roster. Dak was on a team with receivers that drop balls more than any other team, and defense and ST that was among the worst in the league. It's hard to win under those conditions and yet Dak still managed to have one of the better seasons statistically speaking as a QB.

 

[nobody]

Yeah I am not sure what is up with that. Either this is an automatic function for all posts from now on, or else they are screening for key words.

The site flags key words.

 

[Jake]

First of all, I apologize in advance - yes I know, it's yet another Dak thread. We've had hundreds of them already. So I apologize.

Secondly, I am well aware that Dak has won a playoff game. I know perfectly well, because I was there myself in attendance at AT&T Stadium that night. Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.


What I have never yet heard is a convincing explanation from a Dak supporter as to why Dak's one playoff win is better than Mahomes' four playoff wins, including a Super Bowl title. I am not a particularly math-literate person, but all arithmetic I've ever learned in my life points to four being greater than one.

The reason I'm using Mahomes as an example is because many fans are arguing that Dak should be the highest-paid quarterback in the entire league, higher than even Mahomes himself (or Brees, Brady, etc.)

Before Dak became the starting quarterback, the prevailing sentiment was that "it's Super Bowls that count, not mere playoff wins." After all, Blake Bortles has won a playoff game. But now that Dak is going through contract negotiations, suddenly one wild-card playoff win is considered to trump a Super Bowl championship itself. I cannot think of any logic, no matter how contorted, that justifies that line of reasoning.

Perhaps one will argue, "well, it's stats that count, not Super Bowl titles." But even going by stats alone, Mahomes significantly outperforms Dak.

The argument for Dak being the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL amounts to this: "A quarterback with lesser stats and a 1-2 record in the playoffs deserves to be paid more than a quarterback with better stats and a 4-1 playoff record, including a Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP honors." If someone can justify that in a way that would make sense to my ears, I'm all ears.

I've never heard anyone say 1 playoff win is better than a Super Bowl win, unless someone was else trying to prop up Wentz by saying he won a SB (while sitting out December and the entire postseason).

Anyone claiming Dak is better than Mahomes should not be taken seriously. That's almost as dopey as saying Case Keenum is better than Dak.

But one thing that gets lost in the QB won/loss record is the fact that there are other aspects of the game. Brady was lights out in the comeback over Atlanta (after throwing a pick 6 earlier), but did next to nothing in the 13-3 win over the Rams 2 seasons ago. The Patriots defense had a lot more to do with that second outcome, but it'll be talked about as Brady's playoff record.

Putting wins and losses entirely on a QB is easy, but it's not particularly useful. Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, and Joe Flacco are a combined 5-0 in Super Bowls. Obviously they all went undefeated in their respective playoff runs to get there. That's cool for them but does anyone use that W/L record to prop them up as top QBs? Of course not.

 

[cowfan]

Dak is going to be the highest paid quarterback because he will be the latest to sign a contract. Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Deshaun Watson will all get more money that Dak when they sign their new contracts. That's the way it works. The best player is not always the highest paid player.

 

[cowfan]

There's not one person that will ever say winning a playoff game is better than winning the Super Bowl.

 

[Blake]

Spoken like a true simpleton

 

[darthseinfeld]

First of all, I apologize in advance - yes I know, it's yet another Dak thread. We've had hundreds of them already. So I apologize.

Secondly, I am well aware that Dak has won a playoff game. I know perfectly well, because I was there myself in attendance at AT&T Stadium that night. Cowboys 24, Seahawks 22.

Third, I have nothing against Dak. I think he is a Top Ten quarterback in the league. I just don't think he is No. 1.


What I have never yet heard is a convincing explanation from a Dak supporter as to why Dak's one playoff win is better than Mahomes' four playoff wins, including a Super Bowl title. I am not a particularly math-literate person, but all arithmetic I've ever learned in my life points to four being greater than one.

The reason I'm using Mahomes as an example is because many fans are arguing that Dak should be the highest-paid quarterback in the entire league, higher than even Mahomes himself (or Brees, Brady, etc.)

Before Dak became the starting quarterback, the prevailing sentiment was that "it's Super Bowls that count, not mere playoff wins." After all, Blake Bortles has won a playoff game. But now that Dak is going through contract negotiations, suddenly one wild-card playoff win is considered to trump a Super Bowl championship itself. I cannot think of any logic, no matter how contorted, that justifies that line of reasoning.

Perhaps one will argue, "well, it's stats that count, not Super Bowl titles." But even going by stats alone, Mahomes significantly outperforms Dak.

The argument for Dak being the highest-paid quarterback in the NFL amounts to this: "A quarterback with lesser stats and a 1-2 record in the playoffs deserves to be paid more than a quarterback with better stats and a 4-1 playoff record, including a Super Bowl ring and Super Bowl MVP honors." If someone can justify that in a way that would make sense to my ears, I'm all ears.

Mahomes is still on a rookie deal. Most starting QB's make more than Mahomes. When Mahomes extends he will probably get 45 AAV if not more

 

[darthseinfeld]

This is so asinine.
I promise if you use your brain even a tiny bit you'll figure out answers to your own post.

I promise.

Its Cowboys fandom these days