News: Neville Gallimore & Bradlee Anae Will Impact Cowboys Defense Early

[fivetwos]

Dallas just absolutely killed it in this draft.

Still cant believe it sometimes.

 

[conner01]

Yea. He's a hard one to evaluate. He's a really good example of having all the tools but not having much production. That's particularly concerning for someone of his age, and why I wanted no part of him in the first two rounds.

Gallimore turns 24 in January, Trysten Hill just turned 22 at the end of March.

I get the age thing but I’d rather have a guy older than a guy that’s lazy and that’s hills issue

 

[big dog cowboy]

I keep saying it.

The DL is going to surprise people this year.

 

[ondaedg]

Our defense would have improved:

• 25% with just a defensive coordinator change.
• 50% with a new DC and HC
• 100% with a new DC, HC and free agents + the draft.

Can't wait to get rid of the defense that opposing QBs used to break out of slumps.

 

[gimmesix]

Yea, that's fair and I agree. But that was part of the problem with Maliek Collins. It's poor to draft a guy for a specific role, and then play him in a very different one. That's not setting anybody up to succeed.

I don't think 1-tech was a good position for Collins. He's not stout enough against the run. It could be the same for Gallimore, although I think he has more power to handle the role.

The reason that Collins got moved to 1-tech was because A) all of our 1-techs were hurt and B) Irving was showing more ability to be disruptive at 3-tech. I think sometimes it gets looked at like Dallas wanted to move him there, but if the 1-techs we had had stayed healthy, it's likely that he and Irving would have just split time at 3-tech.

 

[quickccc]

Yea, that's fair and I agree. But that was part of the problem with Maliek Collins. It's poor to draft a guy for a specific role, and then play him in a very different one. That's not setting anybody up to succeed.

Can you elaborate more ? Because Cowboys always had plans for Maliek to permanently play the 3 tech coming out of Nebraska
They never intended for him to be a 1 tech otherwise. I believe they only had to be forced to play Maliek out of position as a 1 tech that one year because
they were running out of bodies to play 1 tech. (per projected starter Stephen Paea injury and IR)

 

[Future]

Can you elaborate more ? Because Cowboys always had plans for Maliek to permanently play the 3 tech coming out of Nebraska
They never intended for him to be a 1 tech otherwise. I believe they only had to be forced to play Maliek out of position as a 1 tech that one year because
they were running out of bodies to play 1 tech. (per projected starter Stephen Paea injury and IR)

I know. I'm not saying that they wanted to do that, it happened out of circumstance. It's just an illustrative of the issue.

 

[Big_D]

I keep saying it.

The DL is going to surprise people this year.

I agree. Specially Aldon Smith. But I'm definitely liking how things are shaping up.

 

[gimmesix]

I still think they upgrade the 1-tech and most likely draft the future at the position next year. Gallimore and Hill are both 3-techs do the only true 1-techs on the roster is Poe and Woods plus the undrafted guys.

We could look to free agents that are still on the market we could bring in. For example, a guy like Snacks Harrison is still out there and while he isn't a huge threat as a pass rusher......I like him for run stopping and clogging up holes. In pass rush situations, Dallas could use a Gallimore or Hill (depending if he takes a step forward with the new coaching).

I think it's very possible that Hill is no longer on the team come week 1. He will have to fight for his job and will not be given a spot.

I don't mean to say that I believe we'll need Gallimore as a 1-tech. Teams are in pass defense a majority of the time so you don't need a lot of 1-techs. We have two — one who can strictly play the run and a starter who is strong against the run and OK against the pass. The only way I see Gallimore playing 1-tech is if he proves to be more capable than Woods as a run/pass defender.

In addition to speed, Gallimore stands out for his strength. From everything I've read, though, his strength gets negated because he plays too high. If he can learn not to do that, he could become another of those rare 1-techs who can stymie double-teams on runs and rush the passer. I think he most likely ends up at 3-tech, but his development will be interesting to watch.

I know some see 1-tech as the lesser position, but our defense has been hurt by having one-dimensional players in that spot, no matter how good they have been at that one dimension.

 

[fivetwos]

I still think they upgrade the 1-tech and most likely draft the future at the position next year. Gallimore and Hill are both 3-techs do the only true 1-techs on the roster is Poe and Woods plus the undrafted guys.

We could look to free agents that are still on the market we could bring in. For example, a guy like Snacks Harrison is still out there and while he isn't a huge threat as a pass rusher......I like him for run stopping and clogging up holes. In pass rush situations, Dallas could use a Gallimore or Hill (depending if he takes a step forward with the new coaching).

I think it's very possible that Hill is no longer on the team come week 1. He will have to fight for his job and will not be given a spot.

Interesting point about Hill....I was looking at numbers, and injuries aside, yeah he is gonna have to earn it.

His draft status probably gives him a certain extra look, but talk about a guy that seriously needed an NFL off season strength program....I'm guessing the world situation gave him the excuse to get even more lazy and fat.

Still hoping for something out of the kid, but if he shows up to camp thinking he has a guaranteed spot on the 55, I dont see that as the case.

 

[quickccc]

i hope our new strength program is as elite as the organization assume it will be.
As i read scout profiles that Gallimore shed 20-25 pounds but that seem to lead to him being more easily
to move out and yielding more ground vs the run.

- It's not the 4.79 speed i'm more interested in - as we've had another drafted Sooner DT that once burnt track run at 4.59 (Tapper)
but it's really more how Gallimore explodes off his initial first step get off, shed blocks and gets penetration.
The get off, agility to bend and gain leverage and his core strength to sustain whether vs run or pass.

- Time will tell if he can be a future stud.. or a serviceable type like Maliek Collins, who had the motor, adequate size at 310, and great get off first step
But we only saw few spurts and flashes from Maliek from stretches of games apart.
There wasn't a level of consistency and for whatever reasons his run defense came and goes.
Solid this game, totally rode out of plays and gapes some other games.

 

[quickccc]

i like the rave reports from Senior Bowl activities - practice and games that i observed from both Neville and Bradlee, they made their
presences felt throughout.
Anae had 30 sacks in his 3 years, i usually believe a ton of sacks at college level projects a guy that has a knack for collecting sacks and
that can translate well into the NFL.

i'm revved up about Bradlee Anaes' way of edge rushing, there tends to be two types of top rushers,
- one that excel off their great athleticism,
- and those that excel off great technician.

Bradlee may not be Randy Gregory top athlete,... but he may be a top technician that really knows how to use hand swipes, shoulder dips, leverage
to get productive sacks at the NFL as he did in college.
I heard one comparison to ex-Steelers James Harrison in the way he explodes into a blocker and constantly uses variations of hands-arms-shoulder to get
rid of blocks en route to the QB sack.

 

[Ranched]

 

[buybuydandavis]

Gallimore as a 1T would be a huge waste of his talent.

Conceviably they could do that in passrush situations, but no way he should ever be eating blockers.

With the depth at run stoppers for 1T, it would be stupid to play Gallimore at 1T on run downs, but I *expect* them to rotate out Poe and Woods on obvious pass downs. Not sure who is going to get those snaps, but Gallimore should be a good fit. If we're leaving Poe or Woods in on obvious passing downs, we just don't have enough pass rush on the interior oline.

Poe's ~55% snaps last year indicate he was probably being taken out on nickel downs.

 

[quickccc]

i actually think Alden Smith and Gregory (if he ever finally gets re-instated by Goodell) will join DLaw and LVE in impacting the defense early on
..while young rookies Neville, Bradlee develop and go thru the adjusting to the speed bumps as they learn the NFL.
We need the more established season guys to be the front runners as the additional supports learn and get adjusted..

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Interesting point about Hill....I was looking at numbers, and injuries aside, yeah he is gonna have to earn it.

His draft status probably gives him a certain extra look, but talk about a guy that seriously needed an NFL off season strength program....I'm guessing the world situation gave him the excuse to get even more lazy and fat.

Still hoping for something out of the kid, but if he shows up to camp thinking he has a guaranteed spot on the 55, I dont see that as the case.

Great points. I would add that McCarthy and company didn't draft him. That was Rods boy and I could see them trade him to the Raiders for a player or late round pick..... seeing as Rod is there now plus Dallas and Raiders have a history of trading and has some of Hills teammates from last year including Maliek Collins

 

[plasticman]

Yep, this is definitely the league of "Show me, don't tell me"

Of course, as fans, it's fun to discuss and speculate while we wait for the season to begin, nothing wrong with that at all. However, I would temper the individual expectations and just say there is a lot of potential there. The defensive line should be improved, the defensive backfield will be extremely competitive, etc.

The reason I say that is because "stuff" happens. The Cowboys will have to sacrifice a few players to the God of Injuries, hopefully the price won't be too high. Also, the coaching staff has to get used to each other and their new team. The players will have to adapt to the coaching staff, there are always an issue or two there. Hopefully every player will find a way to stay away from off field issues,.....but that never happens.

The good news is there are no D-linemen so far that will start the season with a suspension. Lately, that's been a Cowboy tradition.

The good news is that the Cowboys added depth and real competition this training camp, it will be fun to see what happens there once the dust settles.

If ever there was a year in which this season needs to start.....

 

[fivetwos]

Great points. I would add that McCarthy and company didn't draft him. That was Rods boy and I could see them trade him to the Raiders for a player or late round pick..... seeing as Rod is there now plus Dallas and Raiders have a history of trading and has some of Hills teammates from last year including Maliek Collins

Heard an interview with Mayock in which he said they want guys that love playing football, not guys that are there for a paycheck.

Sound reasoning, but if that's the case I dont see them signing Hill even if we cut him.

I'm also making the bold prediction that Marinelli "resigns" there before the season is over.

I just dont see a philosophical match with him and the brass there, and the minute he pulls something like his personal doghouse routine it's over.

I'm hoping Hill can provide some push on passing downs in a rotation type situation here (think Jimmie Jones from the 90s), but I doubt that materializes.

Blown pick is one thing. Passing on Thornhill also just stings.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Heard an interview with Mayock in which he said they want guys that love playing football, not guys that are there for a paycheck.

Sound reasoning, but if that's the case I dont see them signing Hill even if we cut him.

I'm also making the bold prediction that Marinelli "resigns" there before the season is over.

I just dont see a philosophical match with him and the brass there, and the minute he pulls something like his personal doghouse routine it's over.

I'm hoping Hill can provide some push on passing downs in a rotation type situation here (think Jimmie Jones from the 90s), but I doubt that materializes.

Blown pick is one thing. Passing on Thornhill also just stings.

I wanted Adderley over Thornhill but they were my first and second targets followed by Rapp

 

[dallasdave]

The one individual that will "impact this defense", is Nolan. Without good coaching, having decent players doesn't matter.

Well said indeed Kitty cat -got to have that defensive leader.