Dak, Time to get smart

[cern]

Wince and Wilson and many other QB’s signed a 4 year contract. I learned that.

They signed extensions, not totally new deals. Big difference.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No, I haven't. I've learned that Dak wants a short term deal, which is terrible for the team. How have you not learned that?

Most of these contracts have been 3 or 4 years deals like the ones with Goff, Wilson, Wentz. DAk is NOT asking anything crazy at all. Tannehill I think was two years.

And honestly...….…………...the Mahomes deal is really a 4 year extension off his rookie deal that will end in two years.

It is my belief that all the Cowboys have to do is go from a 5 year deal to a 4 year deal and he will sign. If the Cowboys wont budge on that, then they are stupid. Not Dak's fault.

 

[cern]

Children are taught about pie charts early in life and understand them. Why can't sports agents and their clientele??? You can eat a pie whole. Halve it, quarter it, eighth it, but the size of the original pie, aka the cap, doesn't change. It's really not complicated.

 

[CowboyRoy]

whatever the reason may be so far this is working out for those who want to see another QB get a shot and potentially do better an it absolutely sucks for those who believe he's all that they say he is.

Dak signed the tag so its 100% certified that he will not be holding out and he will be the QB this year. That's good for the pro Dak crowd.

However, it does put a shadow of doubt for those of us that want him signed long term. Now if they don't come to an agreement by the 15th and Dak actually plays on the tag then personally...…………...I would definitely begin thinking in my head that we need to take steps in the next offseason to look for and groom a young QB.

Which to be honest...……………...they should be doing all the time anyway. If I was the Cowboys, I would sign Dak to a 4 year deal like he wants and in the next two years, draft a guy high at the QB position. If the young kid can be a franchise QB in a couple years, why would they want to pay 35 or 40 million if they don't have to? Or trade the young buck if you can get a draft haul and Dak would resign and it appears he is worth it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Children are taught about pie charts early in life and understand them. Why can't sports agents and their clientele??? You can eat a pie whole. Halve it, quarter it, eighth it, but the size of the original pie, aka the cap, doesn't change. It's really not complicated.

Why should they care about the rest of the pie? Its their job to get the most money for their client. Agents that have a reputation of getting money for their clients are the ones that are going to get the most clients and make the most money for themselves. Simple economics.

I have always wondered why there has never been an occasion where a team has refused to deal with a certain agent. Has it ever happened?

 

[tm1119]

Or why a grown man such as yourself feels inclined to throw really cheap grade school insults at someone they don't know. Maybe you should look inward for immaturity and insecurity. I'm OK w/ you having an opinion, maybe you should self analyze and come to an understanding why you lack the cognitive ability to perceive why people see things in different ways than you do. Your extreme narcissism is making you sound quite childish. Thanks for your opinion though, I'll allow you to have it!!!!

Oh wow, you really are that insecure. Sorry man, but I’m sure you can get help for that. Good luck

 

[Bigdog]

Wince and Wilson and many other QB’s signed a 4 year contract. I learned that.

Wince did sign a 4 year contract but it was an extension that went to 5 years as it was added to his rookie contract. I just want this thing to get over and that it is fair for both sides. I like Dak not only as a qb but as a person. I just hope that he doesn’t give up all of this guarantee money and gets career injury or just stinks it up. He just appears to be a really good guy.

 

[cern]

Why should they care about the rest of the pie? Its their job to get the most money for their client. Agents that have a reputation of getting money for their clients are the ones that are going to get the most clients and make the most money for themselves. Simple economics.

I have always wondered why there has never been an occasion where a team has refused to deal with a certain agent. Has it ever happened?

I agree the agents don't care. But the player should. And i do think certain teams refuse to deal with certain agents. Tom condon comes to mind.

 

[charron]

There was a thing about SJ calling D-Law and they said it was against the rules but was dismissed I guess because D-Law and his agent was ok with the contract. Not sure how they avoided trouble there.

I think it's up to the PA, but not sure why they didn't get into trouble. this is what makes negotiations hard. Clearly Dlaw didn't know what the boys were offering as once he stepped in the negotiations went by very quickly.

 

[Diehardblues]

Children are taught about pie charts early in life and understand them. Why can't sports agents and their clientele??? You can eat a pie whole. Halve it, quarter it, eighth it, but the size of the original pie, aka the cap, doesn't change. It's really not complicated.

Why can’t Stephen get this deal done? Is this all about Dak demanding too much or is someone else calling the shots at the Star?

I actually applaud whoever hasn’t caved in to Daks demands but I suspect they will eventually.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree the agents don't care. But the player should. And i do think certain teams refuse to deal with certain agents. Tom condon comes to mind.

Hard to tell how much the players are involved and aren't. If I was the Cowboys I would refuse to deal with certain guys if they were too tough or unreasonable.

 

[Diehardblues]

I agree the agents don't care. But the player should. And i do think certain teams refuse to deal with certain agents. Tom condon comes to mind.

Yep. At some point it becomes Daks fault even if it’s his agent cause Dak hired him.

But I agree with Ksboys on this. It’s time for Dak to sign. If not then his career in Dallas is in doubt.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Why can’t Stephen get this deal done? Is this all about Dak demanding too much or is someone else calling the shots at the Star?

I actually applaud whoever hasn’t caved in to Daks demands but I suspect they will eventually.

Its very simple actually...…………………..The deadline hasn't come yet. So both sides play hard ball all the way up until the day of. Neither side has any reason to pick up the phone yet. They know the sticking points already. If you recall, Stephen called Lawrence directly and got the deal done last minute. Maybe its the same thing this time. But no reason to do anything until the day of.

 

[charron]

Children are taught about pie charts early in life and understand them. Why can't sports agents and their clientele??? You can eat a pie whole. Halve it, quarter it, eighth it, but the size of the original pie, aka the cap, doesn't change. It's really not complicated.

Most players just tell the agents to do their thing, which is get the most they possibly can. It's on the players to mandate what they want their agents to do, especially if it deviates from the agents commission/pocketbook. I have to assume Dak is ok with his agents money grab in these dealings since Dak could single handedly reseolve alot of this similar to how Dlaw did.

 

[Runwildboys]

You talk narcissism and then two sentences later tell him you allow for him to have a opinion? The irony lol.

He did that intentionally.

 

[Qcard]

My first Dak thread, ever if memory serves.

Dak, can you seriously not see what this agent is doing to you? You are now appearing to be self-centered, completely eaten up w/ greed, and a guy who doesn't care a wit about the team or your teammates or any of that.

Is this the case? If it is, well OK. If this is not the case, please please please fire this bucket of self serving BS and get a real agent as Mahomes did. That is how a contract should be done, not this drawn out mess.

OP, Time to change title of Thread

This will be millionth Dak Hater busting post...

Smart enough to hijack Romo's team

Smart enough to build on Dallas Cowboys brand name and secure $50M worth of endorsements

Smart enough to outperform 4th Rd pick Contract

Smart enough to parlay 4th Rd rookie contract into Exclusive Franchise Tag $31.4M

Who's Dumb now?

 

[Diehardblues]

Why should they care about the rest of the pie? Its their job to get the most money for their client. Agents that have a reputation of getting money for their clients are the ones that are going to get the most clients and make the most money for themselves. Simple economics.

I have always wondered why there has never been an occasion where a team has refused to deal with a certain agent. Has it ever happened?

I agree here. It’s not up to players to manage the Cap for teams. Those are the hard decisions every team must make.

And if Daks demands don’t fit into our longer term cap Mgmt then we will have to live with it much like we did with Ware, Murray and Dez for example.

But I suspect someone will cave by deadline. Most likely Jerry.

 

[Bullflop]

I've been saying this all along -- that Dak needs to locate an agent that isn't in it to serve himself and his player agency.

At some point in the future, maybe Dak might wake up and come to a realization that he needs to divest himself of him.

Until then, Dak's needs and those of his team may find an opportunity to find a common ground to reach an agreement.

 

[Diehardblues]

Unfortunately for Dak who I think is a good guy and has good intentions is this doesn’t play well in his public perception.

Unlike Mahomes who appeared to sign a more team friendly deal it presents Dak as asking for too much which if the Cowboys cave in it’ll place more scrutiny and criticism on Daks performance and how far he can lead this team.

 

[Eanwen]

Children are taught about pie charts early in life and understand them. Why can't sports agents and their clientele??? You can eat a pie whole. Halve it, quarter it, eighth it, but the size of the original pie, aka the cap, doesn't change. It's really not complicated.

Well the pie (and thus the percentage of said pie) does kinda change since the salary cap changes every year. I'd imagine that this knowledge is why Dak's team is (allegedly) fighting for a shorter deal now.