Bob Sturm on the Dak Negotiations

[aikemirv]

Couldn’t get the deal done because of the pandemic Lol..

Imagine believing that.

I do think the pandemic gave Jerry no reason to really pursue the long term contract and paying out a big signing bonus with the season in doubt

 

[Proof]

I do think the pandemic gave Jerry no reason to really pursue the long term contract and paying out a big signing bonus with the season in doubt

I don’t think either side wanted the tag, and then as things unfolded, even if not optimal, it began to make more and more sensec

 

[kskboys]

I love basketball. Almost as much as football.

But yes, today’s style of game is not enjoyable to watch on the regular. I do think the intensity and physically still picks up in the playoffs though. Normally.

I was an admittedly casual basketball fan. What first started my non-fandom was watching the refs take a hand and put Kobe and the Lakers in the finals w/ a myriad of horrific calls vs the Spurs. No, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. But, that was bad.

 

[kskboys]

According to a number of easily searchable sources including Ron Rivera offering up that they offered him a better deal w/ more money. And Tank stepping in (along with Amari taking less) cuts your argument off at the legs. It’s ok though, apparently you didn’t know. Glad to help

Tank didn't have to step in? That's what I heard.

Amari had not produced at the level at which he was paid. He was obviously overpaid. Glad to help you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[khiladi]

ehhh. The league is as popular as its ever been, and as Silver is quoted in the article, they’re way up in practically every other metric. TV is just a dying dinosaur in general.

If they didn’t play the play-offs thus year, they’d lose the TV revenue. If Disney wasn’t a partner, the NBA wouldn’t survive. Disney requested bail-our money from the losses in the hotel industry as well.

Absolutely. The whole system is set up on this idea that you’re gonna get $2.6 billion a year from TV. But you only get that money if you fulfill the contract. The TV networks, so we’re talking about Turner and Disney, continued to pay the league its scheduled payments on that contract even when there were no games being played. If, for whatever reason, the league has to shut this down before we get started on July 30, that money has to come back.

https://www.marketplace.org/2020/07/15/nba-covid-19-restart-bubble-disney-world-quarantine/

We are in a new economic era. And the above article was before the economy was shut down.

 

[khiladi]

I love basketball. Almost as much as football.

But yes, today’s style of game is not enjoyable to watch on the regular. I do think the intensity and physically still picks up in the playoffs though. Normally.

I actually loved GS style of unselfish play, which is why I liked to watch Pheonix with Steve Nash. I was a fan of Derrick Rose pre-injury and the only match-up that really intrigued me pre-GS was Chicago against Miami. I also loved the fact the Mavericks won. I actually love to play more than watch. I used to follow it more in the 90s in college, but outgrew it until the last decade, I took more interest.

Play-off basketball is great, these season is way too long and the fact that teams aren’t longer playing guys full seasons to protect their investments, it’s becoming more useless.

The Lakers, the premier NBA franchise, with its multi-year local TV contract even took bail-out money. The economy is strange right now.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29104444/lakers-got-money-loan-program-returned-it

 

[VACowboy]

Billionaires are the definition of greed.

And that has something to do with my post how?

 

[Qcard]

No, owners have shifted the burden of the costs of their billion dollar stadiums on tax payers and don’t share in the revenue. I could care less about the athletes and owners nowadays. NBA players getting that much money is a joke. It’s all the accounting rules that favor the rich that let things work like that.

What I’m speaking about is economic reality.

You mean economic illusion....

The Salary Cap is a SELF imposed cost controlling mechanism by Owners..

TV Contract check 2010 was $99.9M 2021 was $225M

Stadiums and successful teams are a boom for communities and economy. The owners have the best part of the entire pie...denying as much is sheepish thinking. It's. Win win for owners $$ win or lose record.

But I think we are on the same side drinking different beverages

 

[kskboys]

Never does but it always seems to show up right?

Only if the mods let it.

On the last site where I was a mod, it was a constant fight.

 

[kskboys]

You mean economic illusion....

The Salary Cap is a SELF imposed cost controlling mechanism by Owners..

TV Contract check 2010 was $99.9M 2021 was $225M

Stadiums and successful teams are a boom for communities and economy. The owners have the best part of the entire pie...denying as much is sheepish thinking.

But I think we are on the same side drinking different beverages

Employers setting wages? No way.

Man, you have no idea how silly you sound.

 

[khiladi]

You mean economic illusion....

The Salary Cap is a SELF imposed cost controlling mechanism by Owners..

TV Contract check 2010 was $99.9M 2021 was $225M

Stadiums and successful teams are a boom for communities and economy. The owners have the best part of the entire pie...denying as much is sheepish thinking.

But I think we are on the same side drinking different beverages

They aren’t a boom for the economy, according to many experts. They could if the owners shared the pie. Owners wouldn’t be able to shell out a billion in costs for stadiums without the help. The Rams stadium has exceeded 5 billion dollars apparently.

https://news.stanford.edu/2015/07/30/stadium-economics-noll-073015/

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaypar...ce-for-lifting-its-curtain-during-a-pandemic/

 

[big dog cowboy]

It’s a matter of Dak getting bad advice from France, in my opinion.

Yep. It's that simple.

 

[Proof]

Tank didn't have to step in? That's what I heard.

Amari had not produced at the level at which he was paid. He was obviously overpaid. Glad to help you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You’re arguing different things at this point. Stepping in to get a deal done and signing for less are the opposite of greedy.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The NBA is getting a lot of money from China guys. That's what's helping to keep the NBA afloat. Seriously, the NBA could be done in a year if things go bad IMO.

The last thing the NFL needs to do is to follow the same path the NBA is IMO.

 

[Proof]

If they didn’t play the play-offs thus year, they’d lose the TV revenue. If Disney wasn’t a partner, the NBA wouldn’t survive. Disney requested bail-our money from the losses in the hotel industry as well.



https://www.marketplace.org/2020/07/15/nba-covid-19-restart-bubble-disney-world-quarantine/

We are in a new economic era. And the above article was before the economy was shut down.

Fair enough. The economics aren’t my focus though (even if they’re the driving force) popularity is.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Actually, I'd say the opposite is true. Most seem to think as I do. Start a poll, it'd be interesting to see the results.

Oh I agree on this site yeah. I was more so speaking in real life outside of the internet.

 

[HungryLion]

I actually loved GS style of play, which is why I liked to watch Pheonix with Steve Nash. I was a fan of Derrick Rose pre-injury and the only match-up that really intrigued me pre-GS was Chicago against Miami. I also loved the fact the Mavericks won. I actually love to play more than watch. I used to follow it more in the 90s in college, but outgrew it until the last decade, I took more interest.

Play-off basketball is great, these season is way too long and the fact that teams aren’t longer playing guys full seasons to protect their investments, it’s becoming more useless.

The Lakers, the premier NBA franchise, with its multi-year local TV contract even took bail-out money. The economy is strange right now.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29104444/lakers-got-money-loan-program-returned-it

Golden State and the Suns under D’antoni had an incredibly fast paced style. Which if done right could be incredibly fun to watch in certain respects.

I think my bigger concern is more so with officiating and how some of the physical contact aspect of the sport gets minimized over the course of as you say, a long regular season.

I agree basketball is one of the sports that suffers from having a regular season that is too many games. Players take games off. Players go through the motions against poor teams.

But once the playoffs hit. Man I love NBA playoffs. The aggression and physicality goes through the roof. There isn’t much better To watch than a hard fought 7 game series between two evenly matched basketball teams


Don’t even get me started on the bailouts lol

 

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[khiladi]

Here is an article on Dak’s agents company and their economic losses this year. They were talking about reduction of salaries by 50%. So I’m not sure how France and Dak think they have as much leverage as they think they do.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...scare-talent-agency-caa-cuts-pay-for-staffers

Endeavour, which represents Lebron’s production company, laid off 250 people. Ari Emmanuel is considered one of the biggest players in Hollywood and sports representation and he was one of the main, if not main men, behind “The Decision”. That advertising model he said, from what I remember reading.would revolutionize the industry, which it did.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainme...03-25/endeavor-layoffs-250-people-coronavirus

Walt Disney which is basically a huge economic support for the NBA did the same.

 

[Bullflop]

This thing is far from over, as far as the parties involved. They aren't necessarily going to insist upon a repeat of the past. I think Dak wants to remain a Cowboys QB, otherwise, he wouldn't have attempted to resolve those differences with the Cowboys at the last minute. That much is clearly evident, by the looks of things. The present monetary situation is quite obviously bearable for both parties.

Let's stay tuned to what develops in the future. Circumstances could easily warrant a change of heart on both sides of this situation. Obviously, nothing is written in stone. There's plenty of time left for both sides to reconsider their original stances. I think Dak wants to stay and the Cowboys would approve of it, wholeheartedly, for a practical deal being struck. If Dak is able to solidify his worth in the FO's eyes, things could easily change dramatically.