Jamal Adams Traded to Seattle

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Draft picks are not just about landing quality starters, but also controlling them at low rates.
Yeah but if they suck you really don't care about controlling them at low rates. You want them off your team because at some point they don't even become worth it at low rates. Just like Taco.
 

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That could be but we didn’t do any better with our last two late round picks then they did. I guess you could argue Cooper but when he only shows up in half the games and we only had him for a short time before his contract was up I don’t think it’s that big of a difference.

Their defense is what helped them be so successful in the past and it worked so why not try again? Wilson has Metcalf and a good RB and he could use O line help but IIRC a lot of that was due to injuries. Last year their offense was top 10 and their defense was bottom 10. They went three years without a first round draft pick and still competed in two Super Bowls during those years. You might not as well even count their other first round picks after that because they didn’t have another pick one year and the others were all busts yet they still made the playoffs almost every year.

They’ve been very competitive without a worthwhile or no 1st round picks for a decade and now they got the best safety in the league and are going two more years without a 1st rounder (most likely late) and suddenly they’re idiots, paid too much and are doomed? Based on the past ten years, that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Plus I think a lot of people like to downplay how good he is only because we didn’t get him. Just like every other time we’re looking at a FA, he would be a game changer if he came here but once he goes somewhere else he wasn’t worth it and not all that. That includes are own guys who we let walk :rolleyes:

Their defense was cheap and talented when they were LOB. They eventually got paid but not during that Super Bowl run. The first one.

And you keep bringing up what the Cowboys have done the past few years....Lamb, Amari and LVE.......you can't use the Cowboys as a example of why you should trade your picks lol. They hit on their picks for the most part.
 

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A team has offered that much for Adams so if Prescott is a top ten QB as many claim on here then we should be offered a King's ransom for him or perhaps other teams just view him as a regular bus driver
There's a big difference in salary being paid as one of the best quarterbacks in the league and being the best safety. Not only that but they have years of control of Adam. I believe 2. Dak does not have a long term deal. The time to get "kings ransom" has passed.
 

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Glad we didn't give up that much for one player. That being said, I guess Dak is worth 2 first round and 2 second round picks.

My guess is Stephen is drooling right now. Bye Dak.
 

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Their defense was cheap and talented when they were LOB. They eventually got paid but not during that Super Bowl run. The first one.

And you keep bringing up what the Cowboys have done the past few years....Lamb, Amari and LVE.......you can't use the Cowboys as a example of why you should trade your picks lol. They hit on their picks for the most part.

You don't think the seahawks defense is talented now? In their secondary they have jamal adams, Quandre diggs, Quinton Dunbar and Shaquill griffin. that is pretty damn good. Add Kj wright and Bobby Wagner and Pete Carrol and Ken norton are going to have one of the leagues best defenses.

They did a good job improving their O-Line last year, added a number 1 rb and found a number 1 wr. The seahawks will be a super bowl contender for the next few years. They played sf really well last year and split with them. They were 11-5 and should have beat green bay in the divisional round they got robbed when GB wasn't called for an obvious hold on the game winning first down.
 

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Their defense was cheap and talented when they were LOB. They eventually got paid but not during that Super Bowl run. The first one.

And you keep bringing up what the Cowboys have done the past few years....Lamb, Amari and LVE.......you can't use the Cowboys as a example of why you should trade your picks lol. They hit on their picks for the most part.
Lol, why can’t I use the Cowboys? Most people in this thread say they wouldn’t want the Cowboys to give up 2 first rounders, who else should I use besides the Cowboys and Seahawks?

Again, if you want to make a better comparison then you should use the last two picks where we used a 1st rounder right about where the Seahawks have had theirs, if at all, in the past ten years. That would leave us with Taco and Cooper.

LVE is far from a hit, I hope he’ll be as good as his first year but right now he’s had one good year and one bad year before being injured. The injury is also very concerning and the Cowboys may have very well pissed away a first round pick by taking a known risk, surprise surprise.

And although zeke is a good RB it doesn’t mean that was a “hit”, IMOF it was an epic waste.
 

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It's amazing how you can be so wrong, so often. Gonna have to block you so I don't have to read the stupidity you type out.
Fantastic, thanks for the intelligent reply. You’re reaction is typical of people who know they’re wrong, can’t handle the truth and have no decent rebuttal.

Run when you’re wrong little boy.
 

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Some franchises are actually all-in on winning championships, others are content just talking about it.

Anyways, here comes the "they paid too much" crowd. :rolleyes:
They paid more than I would have paid
As for too much that’s for the buyer to decide but I wouldn’t have gave that price and then a max contract
 

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Glad we didn't give up that much for one player. That being said, I guess Dak is worth 2 first round and 2 second round picks.

My guess is Stephen is drooling right now. Bye Dak.
Talking about being wrong! So a team gives up 2 first rounders for the best safety in the league means another team will give up 2 firsts and 2 seconds for a QB that most people here think is overrated?

I’m sorry I ever read that post, I already feel as dumb as you.
 

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They paid more than I would have paid
As for too much that’s for the buyer to decide but I wouldn’t have gave that price and then a max contract

Nope, around here we’ve been conditioned into accepting our bargain basement super bowl winning teams. Uhhh, sorry, I mean our bargain basement NFC Championship teams. Wel crap, you know what I mean .
 

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Nope, around here we’ve been conditioned into accepting our bargain basement super bowl winning teams. Uhhh, sorry, I mean our bargain basement NFC Championship teams. Wel crap, you know what I mean .
With the cap likely to be a mess next couple years I think those picks will be more valuable than ever
And a season we don’t even know if it will happen doesn’t seem like an all in for years gamble is a smart move
 

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With the cap likely to be a mess next couple years I think those picks will be more valuable than ever
And a season we don’t even know if it will happen doesn’t seem like an all in for years gamble is a smart move
On the other hand next years draft may very well be even more of a gamble than usual so the Seahawks got a known talent and won’t be throwing darts like a lot of teams outside of the top 10 picks may be.
 

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On the other hand next years draft may very well be even more of a gamble than usual so the Seahawks got a known talent and won’t be throwing darts like a lot of teams outside of the top 10 picks may be.
I don’t see first round being that much different though I agree next years draft is gonna be a challenge. I think mostly later in the draft
But the price they paid in picks was a ton and now you have to pay him
And the didn’t just effect next years draft
 

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I think you will see a lot change in Dallas now Garrett is finally gone and MM is here.

Dallas has a lot of good football players also. As a team they have Been underachieving under Garrett.
 
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I don’t see first round being that much different though I agree next years draft is gonna be a challenge. I think mostly later in the draft
But the price they paid in picks was a ton and now you have to pay him
And the didn’t just effect next years draft
They have drafted in the high twenties of the first 5-6 times out of the last 10 years and didn’t have a first round pick the other 4 years. Even the picks they had were all busts, this wasn’t a bad move for them assuming he doesn’t disrupt the locker room or get injured which is a risk with all players.

If there isn’t a ncaa season, I respectfully disagree. I think most players outside of the top 10 picks will be a gamble meaning they could be a bust, could be great or could be good but much more worthy of a later round pick. It could go either way for any team but it’s going to be riskier than usual. The Seahawks just negated that risk.
 

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Lol, why can’t I use the Cowboys? Most people in this thread say they wouldn’t want the Cowboys to give up 2 first rounders, who else should I use besides the Cowboys and Seahawks?

Again, if you want to make a better comparison then you should use the last two picks where we used a 1st rounder right about where the Seahawks have had theirs, if at all, in the past ten years. That would leave us with Taco and Cooper.

LVE is far from a hit, I hope he’ll be as good as his first year but right now he’s had one good year and one bad year before being injured. The injury is also very concerning and the Cowboys may have very well pissed away a first round pick by taking a known risk, surprise surprise.

And although zeke is a good RB it doesn’t mean that was a “hit”, IMOF it was an epic waste.
You can't use the Cowboys because they are one of the best drafting teams in the 1st round in the league. Even if you foolishly eliminate Zeke......LVE came in day 1 as a starter. Zeke came in day 1 as a starter. They failed on Taco. Fair enough. But the rest of their guys are either perennial all pro players or pro bowl players. Let's let LVE play a 3rds season before we call him a bust. Its too early to tell on Lamb. You are being ridiculous for whatever reason.
 

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Two 1st rounders? Shut the front door people. No way. Glad we weren't that stupid.
 
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