QuincyCarterEra
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Yes sir! Full pictureIs that including receiving yards?
Yes sir! Full pictureIs that including receiving yards?
You could also make the parameters to who is the most "talented" running back ever and everything changes...This is true. Brown led the league in rushing all but one year of his career. That's 8 years out of 9. No other RB has come anywhere close to dominating the league like that. That being said, Emmitt is still the best because a RB's job is primarily running the ball and Emmitt has the most career yards.
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Michael Jordan is the GOAT NBA player because of his career accomplishments.
Jerry Rice is the GOAT WR because of his career accomplishments.
Tom Brady is the GOAT QB because of his career accomplishments.
Running back is the only position where they try to switch it up. Nope, not on my watch. Emmitt’s the GOAT RB. Period.
Rice records are so far above anyone close to himLove Emmitt I'd say top 50 for sure All time. Rice is one of the top 5 players I ever saw step on a field. Is what it is.
I don't think recognizing Sanders greatness as a runner necessarily equates to underestimating Emmitt. Reasonable people, including Cowboy fans, can fully appreciate Emmitt and still think Sanders was a better pure runner.I have heard fans on this board say imagine if Barry Sanders ran behind our offensive line. He gets the least amount of the credit of the triplets. Emmitt was the true lynchpin of the 90s Cowboys.
Bill Russell's name is never brought up in the conversation either. He changed the way the game was played and was even better on defense than offense. Oscar Roberston is another, but I think a lot of these kinda things are what have you done for me lately.Kareem has more MVPs, more all defense, more all NBA.
Karen's accolades outshine Jordan's, and he's never mentioned in the top 3 of NBA players. I do like how you tried to find a way to fit your narrative though by combining finals MVPs and season MVPs lol, it was inventive.
And to think that Jerry Rice could have been a Cowboy if Bill Walsh did not see a sports highlight clip of him on the local news in his hotel room room while his team was playing the Saints the next day. He even traded up to the 16th pick from the last pick right before the Cowboys 17th pick that draft year to snag him before the Cowboys could. The Cowboys were in shock when the Niners picked him.
Jerry Rice’s metrics are 100 points higher than any other player at any position. That’s incredible.Jim Brown was the GOAT RB, and it's not even close. All Pro, league leader in rushing yards in 8 years of his 8 year career, 100 yards+ per game in 7 years. Probably few RB records he didn't hold when he retired, and probably could have played years more if he had wanted to, retiring after 3 straight All Pro seasons. League MVP 3 times.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowJi00.htm
Emmitt had a 5 year stint of dominance plus a 9 year stint as a quality RB, giving him the career records. MVP once.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/S/SmitEm00.htm
Jerry had a 10 out of 11 year All Pro tear *plus* a 8 year stint as a quality WR to give him the career receiving numbers. He's got the combination of Jim Brown's achievements and Emmitt's achievements. GOAT.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm
I'm not that impressed with career accumulation of yardage. I'm against Frank Gore making it in. HOF to me is about being near the top for a chunk of time. That's not Frank Gore.
For GOAT, I lean toward Jim Brown's dominance over Jerry, but Emmitt isn't in the ballpark of either.
Pro Football Reference has a HOF Monitor metric for all positions. No metric is perfect, but it does sort them pretty sensibly.
Emitt is in a pack of Payton, Brown, and Sanders.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_RB.htm
Jerry has twice the score of any other WR. GOAT.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/hof/hofm_WR.htm
You could also make the parameters to who is the most "talented" running back ever and everything changes...
A regular season MVP is worth at least 3x that of a finals MVP though to be sure.
Wait... who is the GOAT WR?
yeahBill Russell's name is never brought up in the conversation either. He changed the way the game was played and was even better on defense than offense. ...
Maybe. Or maybe he would have had his leg broken behind the line of scrimmage. You just can't say with any degree of certainty what would have happened.I don't get into the Barry vs Emmitt debates.
Tomatoes--tomahtoes.
However, Barry was in such an unusual situation. The Lions front office seemed to not even care about winning at the time.
The dude was ahead of Emmitt at the time and on his way to breaking Payton's all-time rushing record and left while he was still dominating.
He averaged about 1700 yards a season his last 3 years! Insane.
And he was pulling away from Emmitt, as he had by then, outrushed him 3 straight years by a large margin
He was still in top shape and showing no signs of real decline.
If he played just 2-3 more years--and he could've gone way longer than that--he would still be holding all the records.
Of course part of what has happened is that guys like MJ, Kobe, LeBron are all more noticeable to the public because they came up in a time where there are boatloads of media sources and where fans can watch every game played by every team if they want. Players are celebrities now and their faces and highlights are plastered everywhere. That's not how it was when older players came up through the NBA. I can remember trying to watch the NBA playoffs when Lew Alcindor (I assume you know who that is) was with the Bucks, and they played games on tape delay after the evening news. Guys like Chamberlain and Robertson never had that, and Jabbar only nicked the edge of it, but for their time they were every bit as dominant, or more so, as anyone has ever been.Kareem has more MVPs, more all defense, more all NBA.
Karen's accolades outshine Jordan's, and he's never mentioned in the top 3 of NBA players. I do like how you tried to find a way to fit your narrative though by combining finals MVPs and season MVPs lol, it was inventive.