No sense of urgency to beat Seattle

[blueblood70]

Those are separate arguments.. 0-3 was this example.

no argument you can start out 0-3 and win five straight how you get there doesnt matter as losing as by the end of the year you have enough wins to make the playoffs..
we started 3-0 lost 5 in row and still made the playoffs, how does that differ from doing the opposite, it doesnt,..

you can turn most nay season around sans being the teams that cant win at all , we have the talent and coaching to turn that type of season start around..

thats my point..

think of it like being down 20-0, 29-10 , or by 15 with under 5 mons to play.. some say improbable win , BUT IT HAPPENED..

A SEASON IS MUCH LIKE A GAME LIKE THAT.. it can APPEAR it over when its not..

 

[Flamma]

I know that flamma. But it’s asinine and stupid. It
Shows a lack of football knowledge when people do that. That’s not a credit to those who engage in it because other fans do the same thing.

But even when a QB doesn't play great the loss isn't always their fault. Does Peyton Manning suck because the Seahawks wiped their butts with Bronco scalps? Even way before social media people were ripping into Dan Marino and John Elway. Imagine with social media? They forget a whole bunch of other players are out on the field. Football is very situational and match ups mean a lot. Wins and losses can come as a result of many factors. And yes, sometimes the QB does just suck.

 

[OmerV]

I doubt we win. Dallas has not looked good. And Kellen Moore needs tobe shown the street. I am willing to bet he reverts back to the boring offense this Sunday...and that's why MM is a fraud. MM is suppose to be an offensive mind, yet he allows Moore any say in the offense is a joke...

Moore has only had 2 games away from Garrett, and contrary to what you posted, the offense looked very good this past week outside the early fumbles, which the O-Coordinator can’t control. Relax a bit and see how things play out. There will still be plenty of opportunity to rag on Moore If time goes by and things don’t go well.

 

[Diehardblues]

no argument you can start out 0-3 and win five straight how you get there doesnt matter as losing as by the end of the year you have enough wins to make the playoffs..
we started 3-0 lost 5 in row and still made the playoffs, how does that differ from doing the opposite, it doesnt,..

you can turn most nay season around sans being the teams that cant win at all , we have the talent and coaching to turn that type of season start around..

thats my point..

think of it like being down 20-0, 29-10 , or by 15 with under 5 mons to play.. some say improbable win , BUT IT HAPPENED..

A SEASON IS MUCH LIKE A GAME LIKE THAT.. it can APPEAR it over when its not..

Of course but the fact remains 0-3 is only a 2% rate of overcoming to make the playoffs and why is considered season over.

 

[HungryLion]

But even when a QB doesn't play great the loss isn't always their fault. Does Peyton Manning suck because the Seahawks wiped their butts with Bronco scalps? Even way before social media people were ripping into Dan Marino and John Elway. Imagine with social media? They forget a whole bunch of other players are out on the field. Football is very situational and match ups mean a lot. Wins and losses can come as a result of many factors. And yes, sometimes the QB does just suck.

Exactly man. I agree totally

 

[baltcowboy]

Our season isn’t on life support after Falcons epic collapse last week saved us from the season killer 0-3 scenario.

NFC East is worst division in the league. 7 or 8 wins might be enough. We have several winnable games coming up in October. 1-2 might still lead the division.

A game we aren’t expected to win. Might even get blown out. Biggest concern is more injuries which could compromise easier upcoming schedule in Oct. I’d rest anyone with a lingering injury like Smith and Lawrence.

I agree with injury front but we can still beat Seattle. Let Tyron, Collins, Brown, LVE, Lee and Chido get healthy. Our team might be cooking around week 9.

 

[Stash]

Aaand there it is.

Still butthurt because they fired his hero.

How is the Giants offense doing by the way?

 

[Diehardblues]

Moore has only had 2 games away from Garrett, and contrary to what you posted, the offense looked very good this past week outside the early fumbles, which the O-Coordinator can’t control. Relax a bit and see how things play out. There will still be plenty of opportunity to rag on Moore If time goes by and things don’t go well.

What’s interesting Rogers is that our offense always seems to go full throttle when we have large deficits to overcome. Makes me wonder if defense are willing to give that up .

Like Jimmy said last week, Dak and this offense are more effective as front runners playing with the lead. We do put up big numbers when we open it it up from behind. But rarely pull it out anymore.

We were 1-8 before last weeks game down 7 points or more in last two seasons. Which would support we are more effective winning when not coming from behind.

 

[blueblood70]

But even when a QB doesn't play great the loss isn't always their fault. Does Peyton Manning suck because the Seahawks wiped their butts with Bronco scalps? Even way before social media people were ripping into Dan Marino and John Elway. Imagine with social media? They forget a whole bunch of other players are out on the field. Football is very situational and match ups mean a lot. Wins and losses can come as a result of many factors. And yes, sometimes the QB does just suck.

two sides to that argument, they may NOT be the reason we lost but QB that can be the reason we won is where the elite QBs separate themselves from simply good ones..

Mahomes proved that last seasons huge comebacks he was a big part of the reason they won , if you have games like the two against the rams with Dak not playing bad but he also didnt just step up and do something special to win the game..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

While true....I think this fanbase and organization needs to see a win here. If this is truly a playoff team than we need this win and we need McCarthy and the coaching staff to lead us in victories we aren’t suppose to get.

 

[blueblood70]

Of course but the fact remains 0-3 is only a 2% rate of overcoming to make the playoffs and why is considered season over.

no facts many of these old calculating who does and doesnt make the playoffs by records early in seasons are being busted,

Once again stop trying to win a prize for these posts, its can happen, it will happen..obviously 2% isnt 0 and this year theres another Playoff spot on both sides so 2 more teams can make it , that increases the odds..

 

[CouchCoach]

I think it's just the opposite as this game is important to McC for a variety of reasons.

He's coming off a game most think he was lucky to win and the rap on this team in the past has been it folds against the better teams, also the rap on the QB.

His team is considered the contender in the East but not the NFC, he's playing one of those teams Sunday.

Most of all, he needs this game for his team's confidence. The secondary is banged up, OL is missing pieces and incomplete and his pass rush isn't. Wouldn't you agree he has adversity? Wouldn't you also agree that the SEA coaching staff is considered superior to the Cowboys'?

Adversity and not being at full strength is exactly how Pederson has won over his team. That's how he won a ring, pure confidence built through the confidence his players have in their coaching staff to equalize the games while missing some key players.

McC has been second guessed in both games by the media and this forum, think his players are immune to that? Think they don't wonder if the game is on the line, is their HC as good a decision maker as the other team's? Hell, I think that's what gives Belichick his edge before the game starts, they know the Mad Scientist is across the field, planning and plotting.

McC also realizes that the strength of his team, offense, matches up very well against SEA, who's D consists of 3 good players. This is the type of game he is expected to win, This is the type game he was hired to win. McC goes up against a team with a good pass rush and/or secondary, he gets a little slack but he should win this game because his offense is just as good, if not better and this game is all about the O.

 

[Techsass]

“ again” ? Pinch me. When were we??

Sorry, I thought you were older. It's been a while.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

I think it's just the opposite as this game is important to McC for a variety of reasons.

He's coming off a game most think he was lucky to win and the rap on this team in the past has been it folds against the better teams, also the rap on the QB.

His team is considered the contender in the East but not the NFC, he's playing one of those teams Sunday.

Most of all, he needs this game for his team's confidence. The secondary is banged up, OL is missing pieces and incomplete and his pass rush isn't. Wouldn't you agree he has adversity? Wouldn't you also agree that the SEA coaching staff is considered superior to the Cowboys'?

Adversity and not being at full strength is exactly how Pederson has won over his team. That's how he won a ring, pure confidence built through the confidence his players have in their coaching staff to equalize the games while missing some key players.

McC has been second guessed in both games by the media and this forum, think his players are immune to that? Think they don't wonder if the game is on the line, is their HC as good a decision maker as the other team's? Hell, I think that's what gives Belichick his edge before the game starts, they know the Mad Scientist is across the field, planning and plotting.

McC also realizes that the strength of his team, offense, matches up very well against SEA, who's D consists of 3 good players. This is the type of game he is expected to win, This is the type game he was hired to win. McC goes up against a team with a good pass rush and/or secondary, he gets a little slack but he should win this game because his offense is just as good, if not better and this game is all about the O.

In a normal year, I’d be inclined to agree with you 100%. New staff with a lot turnover accordingly and a shortened training camp on top of that has made me adjust my expectations week to week. At this point I’m cutting the staff some slack. I’m hoping for the win but wanting to see noticeable improvement on both sides. If we can do that week to week, I think we can win the division. I don’t want to see one game potentially start a death spiral of criticism in the media for MM. It’s just way too early for that even if he ends up proving not to be the man for the job.

 

[Techsass]

While true....I think this fanbase and organization needs to see a win here. If this is truly a playoff team than we need this win and we need McCarthy and the coaching staff to lead us in victories we aren’t suppose to get.

I think it's just the opposite as this game is important to McC for a variety of reasons.

He's coming off a game most think he was lucky to win and the rap on this team in the past has been it folds against the better teams, also the rap on the QB.

His team is considered the contender in the East but not the NFC, he's playing one of those teams Sunday.

Most of all, he needs this game for his team's confidence. The secondary is banged up, OL is missing pieces and incomplete and his pass rush isn't. Wouldn't you agree he has adversity? Wouldn't you also agree that the SEA coaching staff is considered superior to the Cowboys'?

Adversity and not being at full strength is exactly how Pederson has won over his team. That's how he won a ring, pure confidence built through the confidence his players have in their coaching staff to equalize the games while missing some key players.

McC has been second guessed in both games by the media and this forum, think his players are immune to that? Think they don't wonder if the game is on the line, is their HC as good a decision maker as the other team's? Hell, I think that's what gives Belichick his edge before the game starts, they know the Mad Scientist is across the field, planning and plotting.

McC also realizes that the strength of his team, offense, matches up very well against SEA, who's D consists of 3 good players. This is the type of game he is expected to win, This is the type game he was hired to win. McC goes up against a team with a good pass rush and/or secondary, he gets a little slack but he should win this game because his offense is just as good, if not better and this game is all about the O.

I haven't figured out how good our new coaching staff is yet. I would love to see them be the reason we win on Sunday.

 

[CouchCoach]

In a normal year, I’d be inclined to agree with you 100%. New staff with a lot turnover accordingly and a shortened training camp on top of that has made me adjust my expectations week to week. At this point I’m cutting the staff some slack. I’m hoping for the win but wanting to see noticeable improvement on both sides. If we can do that week to week, I think we can win the division. I don’t want to see one game potentially start a death spiral of criticism in the media for MM. It’s just way too early for that even if he ends up proving not to be the man for the job.

He came to coach the Cowboys, he's coaching in a glass stadium and knows it.

There have been coaches second guessed about decision making after the first two games but he is the only one for both games.

I believe there is another, hidden from our view, motivator for him that plays in GB. He admitted his bitterness after getting fired and I do not believe that has entirely subsided and only exacerbated by them going to the NFCCG and off to as a good a start as any team in the league.

He's the HC of a 2nd Tier team and not really a true contender until he can take down a Tier 1. Until he does that, he's going to get criticism by the media that focuses on the team being better after he left. They really don't stop to consider GB made the best D FA moves since FA started and that was the difference.

CF, this is not how McC envisioned this season starting off and having to defend decisions made ion the only two games he's coached. This is the must cover Dallas Cowboys and he knows he will receive that kind of coverage until he stops it and it is just a matter of time before the owner openly second guesses him just as he has McC's predecessors.

He knows that if he can win a game limping into SEA, he's going to get a badly needed boost of confidence in and from his team. He really needs this game.

 

[CouchCoach]

I haven't figured out how good our new coaching staff is yet. I would love to see them be the reason we win on Sunday.

Same here, it would be nice for them to play a game that he doesn't get questions about his decision making. We had that with Garrett but back to back to start the season?

 

[Corso]

Lol ok sure. That’s how it comes off.

Your reading comprehension sucks man.

Sometimes posting with that guy is like hammering your own hand over and over.

 

[Flamma]

two sides to that argument, they may NOT be the reason we lost but QB that can be the reason we won is where the elite QBs separate themselves from simply good ones..

Mahomes proved that last seasons huge comebacks he was a big part of the reason they won , if you have games like the two against the rams with Dak not playing bad but he also didnt just step up and do something special to win the game..

It works both ways a lot of the times. Even elite QBs are rarely a match for great defenses. Not that they exist anymore, but the past has shown us that. I think elite is for QBs that have a history of playing above and beyond.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I haven't figured out how good our new coaching staff is yet. I would love to see them be the reason we win on Sunday.

Yeah I have no idea either. If McCarthy wasn’t coaching his second game last week it would be a fireable offense for how he coached.