Jalen Rose: Trade Elliott

InTheZone

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Under appreciated? He’s the most over rated player on this team.

Defenses don’t respect the ewok like most people assume. The number of stacked boxes he’s faced has gone down every year since his rookie season. Last year 22 other RB’s faced more stacked boxes than he did.
It's funny you say this because whenever I see a RPO the edge contain never crashes on Dak, they always play zeke.

Obviously this is not the same as a presnap stacked box, but zeke was graded #5 last year vs stacked boxes.
 

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No one will take on Elliot's contract.
Cooper may be more tradable.
Trade Dak.

lol. Trade Dak on the franchise tag? We might get a pack of gum for that. He is a great qb but without a contract he will not get us much.
 

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If he can not be traded then he should be cut...he makes this team look foolish with that stupid feed me crap...
 

Rayman70

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Elliot is too lax and void of passion on the field. See the trend? JAYLON...same thing...it goes on and on.To play this game and to get results, one must LOVE it, and it usually translates on the field. We are witnessing what happens when some of the players go half speed and half effort. Their heart isn't in it. CUT THEM NOW.
 

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Been calling out the bad build model for awhile now.
Just cut every large contract but DAK and scrap it all

That's pretty much what Seattle has done and they have nothing to show for it so far and their defense will be their demise this season.

Plus Dak just isn't as good.


I still stand by that QB's are easier than ever to find and we don't need to spend a gillion dollars at the position. It's not working out well for those teams who do this.
 

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I loved the pick when we drafted Zeke. His first 3 years in the league I thought we had, barring injuries, as close to a “can’t miss” HoF running back talent as you could find. He was like something created in Madden’s laboratory on a day some ten year old wanted to play with a running back juiced to the max on skills

I’m really disappointed how things have turned out since we signed him. I hope he can get it back on track. Mostly I want him to stop fumbling the damn ball. That said, I just don’t see anyone who would be willing to trade for him and us not get fleeced in a deal. Hopefully what we are seeing with Zeke is a lack of focus or misuse by the staff and not a marked drop in production due to a skill decline. It’s not unusual for a top tier, premium running back to go down hill fast in this league. Hell its probably the norm now but with Zeke particularly, this would mildly shock me because he’s such an athletic workhorse. He doesn’t get hurt while loving punishing contact. Walter Payton-esque if you will. I just
hope he can get it together BUT if we were able to put a deal together with a team that was acceptable, I would consider trading him. I just don’t see anyone trading for “2016-18 Zeke” because that’s not what he’s been since we re-signed him and other teams aren’t going to ignore that.
 
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Elliot is too lax and void of passion on the field. See the trend? JAYLON...same thing...it goes on and on.To play this game and to get results, one must LOVE it, and it usually translates on the field. We are witnessing what happens when some of the players go half speed and half effort. Their heart isn't in it. CUT THEM NOW.
Got it.......but keep guys like SLee on the roster.
 

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Got it.......but keep guys like SLee on the roster.
AH NO. I am not in that cult. I think we should have cut him 2 years ago. For the life of me, I don't get the love for a guy who hasn't done anything to help us win.
 

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I'd rather trade Mike Nolan. He's trying to get too tricky. Last year this defense under what we thought was worse coaching actually performed better. Last years defense with this seasons offense would have us at 4-0.
 

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first off his contract is not tradable this season.. you want more from EE use him lie a true bell cow RB as he doesnt need to be on the field nearly 90% of the offensive snaps..quality over quantity is key..KM is a lot to blame..

all the flack EE is getting is on KM and MM hes on the field over 20% more mostly as blocker and some as a pass catcher however his numbers are down because that point and the fact the OL is bad and the play calling is pass happy..

EE is nto FB but hes being worn out blocking like one.. thats an expensive FB bud, and if fans and media cant see this he was on the field in the past at most 67% in years past and now its almost 90% the dude never get a a breather, i cant imagine all the pass blocking hes doing has on his shoulder and arms..its sad use of talent like Zeke.. never comes out and blamed for the stat decline..

Ive said this in two separate post on KM, he does not know how to integrate a true run game into his pass happy play calling and when zekes is needed dude being worn out.,. teams now a days using 2 and sometime 3 Rbs plus a FB or mix of sorts.. Zeke nearly on the field ALL GAME used like FB far too often..

anyone blaming zeke looking only at stats are serious troll haters...go look up the stats the actual snaps hes on the field as blocker or decoy chipping and running ghost routes, its by far and away more then any other back and im betting any skill payer on offense around the league.its insane.

they need to wake up use pollard more but pollard blocking is sun par and will get Dak killed , so a FB is need IMHO, zeke needs to be fresher and not sure how they cant see this..
 

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We’re going to have enough dead cap money in the offseason when we cut Jaylon and Dlaw......no thanks
 
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