If Tannehill can do it, why not Dalton

[blueblood70]

why would you leave the defense out of it when talking about team success?

that makes no sense.

not about the team this is a decision on dak vs Dalton they both would have to play with the same team around them..get it? hypothetically we could build better defense with payig Dalton a lot less money ..but im leaving not out because no matter who is playing QB they will have had the same defense , like 11 games dalton will play out the year with , so we will be using those 11.1 games Dalton plays that will factor in this decsions, should their be one..

this thread did not say Titans vs Cowboys it simply the QB decision, AFTE RTHESE NEXT 11 GAMES, GET IT??..

 

[Future]

thats a part of it we are getting compensation in higher draft picks for dak..12mil per year AAV , its something.

no we are not comparing dak to Mariotta we are making a hypothetical scenario should dalton who he can efficiently run this offense over the next 11 games and not big drop off AND IF contract negotiations dont go well with Dak, Dalton could end up starting and we wont see huge difference for a lot les money.

$12m AAV does not get you a difference maker. These guys just don't exist.

Jadaveon Clowney and Yannick Ngakoue (13 and 12) don't make any difference on this team. Kyle Van Noy, and JPP certainly don't either.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Ryan Tannenhill is pedestrian. I think Dalton is a far better QB than he is.

 

[Flamma]

Why won’t the cowboys make the NFCCG? Because they don’t have a defense. The titans have a very good defense. That’s the main reason they are having so much success. Tannehill is playing well.

is it possible dalton plays well in Dak’s absence? Sure. It could happen.

I will say this. If Dalton does have a revival. Like Tannehill did..... look at the contract that Tannehill then got. Like 29 mil per season.

that’s only like 6-8 less per year than Dak.

do you want Dalton over Dak if the cap savings is only 6-8?


Dalton being a “bridge” option depends on a lot of factors. 1. Dalton playing well. 2. If dalton does play very well, him wanting to sign a “discount” deal where the savings makes sense over a younger QB like Dak.

There’s a lot of variables here.


Dinucci is not a realistic long term option. The chance of him being a good QB is less than 1%

If the cowboys do move on for a rookie or young QB. I don’t want bargain basement chad hutchinsons or drew Henson’s.

cowboys gotta use a premium pick to maximize the chance or finding a good QB.

We shall see what happens.

Zeke better tighten his cleats, and dalton better warm up. The Cowboys are going to need near to 40 points to win this game.

The Cowboys had trouble containing Danny boy on the giants. The cards have a better offense and that little rat running around from under center.

 

[DFWJC]

Total yards doesn't matter.

The list is there to show the general difference between run and pass.

The Rams were just tough all around, but teams much prefer to pass on Seattle and Cleveland, for example. They are pretty stout v the run.

We'll see. I bet on average we throw better vs the teams with lower-rated pass defenses and run better vs those with worse run defenses....

We have so many weapons it'd be crazy not to throw it at least some, but I bet given our competition going forward, we run it way more than we, percentage-wise.

 

[blueblood70]

no he didn't he completed like 15 passes over two games lol.

they had to turen around a 1-7 regular season just to make the playoffs and Tannehill did have some big games...1-7 with Marritta afccg with tannehill..

funny once again this isnt about tannehill he did already get paid , so the Owner, coach, and FO decided he was worth keeping at 30mil 90 mil guaranteed, so your opinion on him is MOOT , got it..?

they are now 4-0 with him at QB regardless of how you FEEL about him its better then what they had..his career is back on track hes successful and PAID its not the point of this thread

Im pointing out the relevance of the parallels between two very similar QBS and why not Dalton being the next to extending his career..

so laughable any of you with string opinions on Tannehill doesnt matter one bit the Titans already made that decsions and wits working out..

we will have huge decsions should Daltons play very wekll for the next 11 games and Daks contract negotiations hit snag and he decided he will hold out or be traded..

all hypothetical..jeez..

 

[Proof]

they had to turen around a 1-7 regular season just to make the playoffs and Tannehill did have some big games...1-7 with Marritta afccg with tannehill..

funny once again this isnt about tannehill he did already get paid , so the Owner, coach, and FO decided he was worth keeping at 30mil 90 mil guaranteed, so your opinion on him is MOOT , got it..?

they are now 4-0 with him at QB regardless of how you FEEL about him its better then what they had..his career is back on track hes successful and PAID its not the point of this thread

Im pointing out the relevance of the parallels between two very similar QBS and why not Dalton being the next to extending his career..

so laughable any of you with string opinions on Tannehill doesnt matter one bit the Titans already made that decsions and wits working out..

we will have huge decsions should Daltons play very wekll for the next 11 games and Daks contract negotiations hit snag and he decided he will hold out or be traded..

all hypothetical..jeez..

you don't know what my opinion is you imbecile, because i didn't give one. I stated a fact. I like tannehill and am impressed with what he's done since joining the titans.

 

[blueblood70]

you don't know what my opinion is you imbecile, because i didn't give one. I stated a fact. I like tannehill and am impressed with what he's done since joining the titans.

ok TOOL, might want to scale back the name calling it can be done by all..it goes both ways

 

[jazzcat22]

Look at last week. The Giants are a mess and they still put up 34 points on us. That's tough for any QB.

7 points from their defense. Not from the offense, to be clear.
7 points from a very short field. Most bad offense should be able to do that.
9 points from 3 FG's of over 50 yards. I guess the defense held, but a very good K can overcome that.

So the offense gets a FG, a TD and a 2 point conversion. And those drives were helped by the defense being stupid with penalties.

So the 34 points narrative is not really what it seems. True, overall they gave up 27 points, so at least try to be correct with the actual points given up.

 

[HungryLion]

not about the team this is a decision on dak vs Dalton they both would have to play with the same team around them..get it? hypothetically we could build better defense with payig Dalton a lot less money ..but im leaving not out because no matter who is playing QB they will have had the same defense , like 11 games dalton will play out the year with , so we will be using those 11.1 games Dalton plays that will factor in this decsions, should their be one..

this thread did not say Titans vs Cowboys it simply the QB decision, AFTE RTHESE NEXT 11 GAMES, GET IT??..

It was confusing because it mentioned Tannehill and the titans making a run and going to the NFCCG so I was responding to that aspect f.

but I do understand the conversation on if dalton will be a better option going forward depending on his individual play. Yes.

 

[OmerV]

If he can get the offense off to quicker starts then he might be an upgrade over Dak.

Getting behind early and turning the ball over has been a problem. We can't constantly play catch up.

If we could play with a lead we might be able to dictate these games with Zeke and help this defense.

I think the lack of quicker starts this season has been because of the early turnovers. Turning the ball over has stopped us more than the other team. I think cleaning that up would do wonders.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I don't know why I thought Tanny was so much younger.

 

[blueblood70]

7 points from their defense. Not from the offense, to be clear.
7 points from a very short field. Most bad offense should be able to do that.
9 points from 3 FG's of over 50 yards. I guess the defense held, but a very good K can overcome that.

So the offense gets a FG, a TD and a 2 point conversion. And those drives were helped by the defense being stupid with penalties.

So the 34 points narrative is not really what it seems. True, overall they gave up 27 points, so at least try to be correct with the actual points given up.

exactly! and git back 7 with their own TD..definitely not as bad as it seemed..

if you give the defense an actual clean game from offense and ST not have boneheaded high risk play calls etc it will be much better looking defense from us, not great at all but far closer to what it looked like against the rams.. theres was a lo of improving last week even if the final score didnt show it..

 

[McKDaddy]

Dinucci is not a realistic long term option. The chance of him being a good QB is less than 1%

so about the same as Tom Brady's were according to the "majority"?

 

[HungryLion]

so about the same as Tom Brady's were according to the "majority"?

Lol yes. About the same as Tom Brady’s were.


Again, not a realistic strategy. You pointing to a statistical outlier, doesn’t make relying on a 7th round pick a realistic long term strategy at starting QB.

 

[jazzcat22]

exactly! and git back 7 with their own TD..definitely not as bad as it seemed..

if you give the defense an actual clean game from offense and ST not have boneheaded high risk play calls etc it will be much better looking defense from us, not great at all but far closer to what it looked like against the rams.. theres was a lo of improving last week even if the final score didnt show it..

I just posted in another thread, about Sean Lee.

Could we see Lee, LVE and Gregory all back for the 2 road games at FB Team and the Eagles. How great would that be.

Lee, have not heard about him, but he has at least 1 more week, to be eligible to come off IR. LVE has already been designated to return from IR, but when do they actually do that.
Gregory can return to the active roster after this next game. if they choose to do so.

All 3 will help this defense improve. not sure by how much, they they will.

 

[McKDaddy]

Tannehill isn't good, and the fact that he can't throw the ball downfield is why they lost in the playoffs.

don't always agree with you but generally understand where you are coming from but on this I'm afraid you have a bad take.

I watch most Titans games. He has a top notch arm and very accurate (as in super impressive). they take quite a lot of deep shots & he drops dimes into the receivers hands.

I'm not saying he's elite and he did not play great in the playoffs. But the talent is clearly there, I'm going to chalk that up to first time nerves.

 

[McKDaddy]

Lol yes. About the same as Tom Brady’s were.


Again, not a realistic strategy. You pointing to a statistical outlier, doesn’t make relying on a 7th round pick a realistic long term strategy at starting QB.

but there is absolutely nothing concrete to say he can't do it. its just statistical bias. i saw him doing some nice things in training camp. let not make up our minds without proof. let him show what he can or can't do.

 

[Future]

don't always agree with you but generally understand where you are coming from but on this I'm afraid you have a bad take.

I watch most Titans games. He has a top notch arm and very accurate (as in super impressive). they take quite a lot of deep shots & he drops dimes into the receivers hands.

I'm not saying he's elite and he did not play great in the playoffs. But the talent is clearly there, I'm going to chalk that up to first time nerves.

Yea, I like Tannehill's arm talent.

I just mean that the only time they really do that is on PA. He's not going to sit back in the pocket and consistently hit stuff 20 yards downfield. Lots of QBs can hit 2-3 shots a game when you're that selective on when you go downfield.

 

[tyke1doe]

It's Put up or Shut up time.

No need to argue over whether Dalton is or isn't, can or can't lead the Cowboys.

We're about to see now.

As for Tannehill, he doesn't have to be great, just productive. That team reminds me of the 80s Giants team. Not flashy, pedestrian quarterback who limited mistakes, power running, strong defense, possession football.

Don't be surprised to see them in the AFC Championship Game again.

That's how we should have built our team if not for Jerry's instance on flash, dash and cash.