Byron Jones is a building block we need

[Future]

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!

you were happy when Dak was carted off!! A REAL QB was going to be running the offense now!!

I don't agree with @CATCH17 at all on Dak - but he's mostly been consistent in saying that Dak is good just not worth the money. You're barking up the wrong tree with this - there are posters who this applies to, but it's not him.

 

[phildadon86]

Dalton has a lot of football in front of him this season so saying something as absolute as "he can't" is risky.

The game unfolded on him poorly. Everytime in the first half when we were driving something catastrophic happened that was not on him.

So when the defense allows 31 points for Dak its his fault. but when its Dalton its out of his control? I see.

 

[CATCH17]

Stop with this non sense please. Front four on defense reeks. If thats the case the back seven doesnt matter. He wanted elite money and he isnt. Lawrence and Jaylon got paid elite money too, see where I am going with this. Paying him would be like putting thousand dollar rims on a car that doesnt run.

By all means I agree but front 4 isn't overcoming guys that just let WR's run by them free.

 

[SackMaster]

Watching that game last night i'm thinking.. Wow... Kyler Murray can impact a game better than anyone we have. We need a spark like that.

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?

Murray was GARBAGE last night. 9 completed passes in 24 pass attempts. Missed WIDE OPEN receivers all night and the only thing he showed last night was he was fast. (and/or Jaylon Smith was a terrible spy for him). But he hit that ONE big pass against a guy who YOU question is even a NFL quality player.

Ya, that is the spark plug we need. A guy who would COMPLETELY waste the WRs we have on this team and can only do anything in the air when we play against the a coverage busting defense.

Give THAT guy $40 million. That will show us how terrible Dak is ....

 

[CATCH17]

So when the defense allows 31 points for Dak its his fault. but when its Dalton its out of his control? I see.

I always said our #1 problem was defense.

My problem with Dak and the offense was the slow starts and costly turnovers.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

I don't agree with @CATCH17 at all on Dak - but he's mostly been consistent in saying that Dak is good just not worth the money. You're barking up the wrong tree with this - there are posters who this applies to, but it's not him.

He’s consistently said Dak is average and that most QBs could do what he’s doing. He legitimately said Dalton would be just as good as Dak and we would be a better team.

Now after we got embarrassed, trucked, and left for road kill, he’s disingenuously claiming that “just as good” means losing the game while ignoring the context of HOW we lost, as if the games with Dak weren’t monumentally different. He’s not an honest interlocutor and I’m going to remorselessly bust his balls about it.

 

[CATCH17]

WHAT?!?!?!?!?!?

Murray was GARBAGE last night. 9 completed passes in 24 pass attempts. Missed WIDE OPEN receivers all night and the only thing he showed last night was he was fast. (and/or Jaylon Smith was a terrible spy for him). But he hit that ONE big pass against a guy who YOU question is even a NFL quality player.

Ya, that is the spark plug we need. A guy who would COMPLETELY waste the WRs we have on this team and can only do anything in the air when we play against the a coverage busting defense.

Give THAT guy $40 million. That will show us how terrible Dak is ....

Yes Murray was garbage.. And kept extending drive after drive after drive because he is electric and only in year 2 of his career and has shown a lot of upside as a thrower.

 

[phildadon86]

I always said our #1 problem was defense.

My problem with Dak and the offense was the slow starts and costly turnovers.

LOL. And what exactly did Dalton do? He didnt start quick. And had some pretty dumb throws

 

[baltcowboy]

All year i've seen busted coverages and big plays.

I know many of you didn't want to pay him because of the lack of turnovers but looking around the league corners who are elite like he was that lack turnovers still got paid by their team.

We chose guys like Lawrence, Cooper, Zeke, and Jaylon Smith over a guy that can match up against any WR in the league and play inside or outside at corner and slow them down.


We've taken a lot of L's this year but losing Byron Jones was a big one.

Watching Worley out there last night and the technique he used on the Kirk TD is just an embarrassment. How is he a pro?

Three years ago fans wanted to cut Byron. He is a good corner and a stand up guy. I just think we would be complaining about him like Tank because he forces no turnovers.

 

[The Natural]

Give it a rest

 

[CarolinaFathead]

I always said our #1 problem was defense.

My problem with Dak and the offense was the slow starts and costly turnovers.

Defense was problem 1A for you.

Dak was problem 1B.

lol

 

[SackMaster]

Yes Murray was garbage.. And kept extending drive after drive after drive because he is electric and only in year 2 of his career and has shown a lot of upside as a thrower.

I call complete BS on that.

I don't care who's name is on the back of the jersey, if that kind of performance came from a Cowboys QB, we would ALL be looking for our next QB ..... THIS week.

 

[CATCH17]

Hes consistently said Dak is average and that most QBs could do what he’s doing. He legitimately said Dalton would be just as good with Dak and we would be a better team.

Now after we got embarrassed, trucked, and left for road kill, he’s disingenuously claiming that “just as good” means losing the game while ignoring the context of HOW we lost, as if the games with Dak weren’t monumentally different. He’s not an honest interlocutor and I’m going to bust his balls about it.

I've said he is slightly above average. He's not a difference maker at his position. He's a high end bus driver.

He's not the reason we lose or the reason we win..

That is what I have said to be exact.

lol you would think I was saying those things about a QB like Patrick Mahomes. We've won 6 of our last 17 with Dak.

 

[CATCH17]

I call complete BS on that.

I don't care who's name is on the back of the jersey, if that kind of performance came from a Cowboys QB, we would ALL be looking for our next QB ..... THIS week.

Well.. Saying Murray sucks at throwing because of 1 game is purely anecdotal and you can't tell me he didn't have a huge impact on that football game with his Plan B running ability.

 

[CarolinaFathead]

I've said he is slightly above average. He's not a difference maker at his position. He's a high end bus driver.

He's not the reason we lose or the reason we win..

That is what I have said to be exact.

lol you would think I was saying those things about a QB like Patrick Mahomes. We've won 6 of our last 17 with Dak.

A high end bus driver that set an NFL record for passing yards through five games with turnovers, a historically bad defense, and back up to back ups on the OL to overcome?

Thats what “bus drivers” do?

Explain this..

 

[CATCH17]

LOL. And what exactly did Dalton do? He didnt start quick. And had some pretty dumb throws

He didn't you're right.. He got a Dak like result didn't he?

 

[CarolinaFathead]

Well.. Saying Murray sucks at throwing because of 1 game is purely anecdotal and you can't tell me he didn't have a huge impact on that football game with his Plan B running ability.

Lol and you’re ready to throw 40 million at him after one season and six games this year lol but you’re ignoring what Dak brings to the table because he’s a “bus driver” lmao

 

[phildadon86]

He didn't you're right.. He got a Dak like result didn't he?

Not at all. Dak actually scores. Dalton didnt throw a touchdown until the 4th quarter dude. lol

 

[CarolinaFathead]

He didn't you're right.. He got a Dak like result didn't he?

No. It’s not a Dak-like result. We got dragged like a a dog tied to the rear bumper of a semi.

With Dak we almost won every game.

This is where you start to look real dumb.

 

[Denim Chicken]

I was very anti pay Zeke.

Pay Zeke now.

Don't give him a 3rd contract but make sure he's locked up for his prime years and lets get out of the deal when he is 28 or 29.