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[Xavier187]

i think cooper has to be the one traded if its possible without eating dead money..

i believe we have 5th year option on Gallup so we could push it one more year then trade coop..

Gallup being traded would be as bad as watching the fo expose Jimmy Smith in the expansion draft wen many fans saw this kid tuning into a great reciever, you could see it even in preseason... history says that was mistake with all the multi 1sts we gave for Roy Wlliams and Galloway etc tryig to replace MI.. Gallup would be one i try and pair with Lamb for the future..

You can't trade Cooper contract has no trade in first two years aswell

 

[Xavier187]

I think 5th year option is only for 1st rndrs Gallup I think was a 3rd rounder

No fifth year option unless he is a 1st rounder.

 

[AKATheRake]

Should have done that for adams if anyone

Wouldn't have been enough and I rather have a young top 3 pick DT anyways.

You do know the Seahawks gave up 2 first rounds picks, a 3rd and a solid safety in Bradley McDougald right?

You can't get a 1st heads up for Tyron Smith as of right now.

 

[Floatyworm]

While I understand your point, this kid would probably be the #1 DT in THIS YEARS draft. He would be a MAJOR PIECE in a rebuild. Not even 23 yet...

Why people can't see that for themselves...is beyond me. We...as a society are in deep trouble.

 

[Direwolf63]

I don’t think you all know how valuable a 2nd round pick in the 30s is. I seen the Ravens trade back into the 1st round for their second and a 4th round pick to draft Lamar Jackson. That means instead of 2 1/2 years with an average player with some upside we could get the full 5 years with a top flight cornerback or safety which we desperately need.

And you keep forgetting who the front office guys are making selections for this team. Jerry doesn't have one one thousanths the savvy of anybody in the Ravens front office.

Williams would be better than anybody Jerry chooses in the 2nd round.

 

[roughneck266]

I wonder what it would cost. The thing is if it’s a second. He’s better than any dt we’ll choose in the top 3-5 in the second round. But is that enough for the jets?

They have a habit of asking for the moon. I would LOVE to have him, but suspect the cost would be enormous.

 

[fivetwos]

That’s cool. I’m OK with a difference of opinion. At least you’ve supported your position.

And BTW....thanks for being about a thousand times classier about it than way too many around here would have.

We typically agree and I like your posts. You know that.

Better days ahead sir.

 

[Xavier187]

The plan is play for next year. Trade the two threes for Williams

 

[baltcowboy]

And you keep forgetting who the front office guys are making selections for this team. Jerry doesn't have one one thousanths the savvy of anybody in the Ravens front office.

Williams would be better than anybody Jerry chooses in the 2nd round.

We all are aware the three stooges probably want to give up the first round pick for Q. Williams. We just added a possible 5th round pick, I don’t think we should be a hurry to give up assets for a top 3 bust. We have a bad football team and Mr. Williams is not gonna makes us better.

 

[blueblood70]

You can't trade Cooper contract has no trade in first two years aswell

didnt say that the trade for quinnen for coop


I said dont let Gallup go because you hav ehim through 2021 season so coop can be trded or cut befre 2022 and retain Gallup..so i would not trade gallup..that was my point as some were discussing who the jets might want off our team, some propose Gallup..i say no way

 

[phildadon86]

Wouldn't have been enough and I rather have a young top 3 pick DT anyways.

You do know the Seahawks gave up 2 first rounds picks, a 3rd and a solid safety in Bradley McDougald right?

You can't get a 1st heads up for Tyron Smith as of right now.

Agreed. I would rather draft Parsons if we are in the top 5. Kid is a baller. A leader. And isnt afraid to tackle. Kind of an important trait for a LB. Which none of ours currently have minus Sean lee.

 

[fivetwos]

The defense we have now is pure garbage because the players dont fit the system.

So, many of you want to fire the DC, then start moving major assets to acquire players BEFORE we know what system we will run?

What if Williams isnt a fit, or should we hire a DC based on his strengths?

Plays the same position as Hill and Gallimore BTW....and didnt play well at all until the last few games.

Sounds like a pass if you ask me. At least for right now, and for the 35th pick in the draft.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Now I’m confused - we already paid Cooper. We would have to pay Gallup too after next year. Would you want to cut Cooper and then deal with the dead money and sign Gallup? Wouldn’t be surprised if Gallup would demand 18 million a year on the open market.

Yes, you are confused. It's a about how much dead cap you have to worry about. In the case of Cooper, you are on the hook for 20+ mil for several seasons still but, if you move on after the 21 season, your dead cap hit is 6 mil but you save yourself 16 mil in cap space for that season, another 22 mil in 2022 and another 22 mil in 2023. If Gallup did demand 18 mil and got it, he's still be significantly cheaper then Cooper.

 

[Landryhat73]

Yes, you are confused. It's a about how much dead cap you have to worry about. In the case of Cooper, you are on the hook for 20+ mil for several seasons still but, if you move on after the 21 season, your dead cap hit is 6 mil but you save yourself 16 mil in cap space for that season, another 22 mil in 2022 and another 22 mil in 2023. If Gallup did demand 18 mil and got it, he's still be significantly cheaper then Cooper.

Not saving much - In this situation Cooper would be 3 year 66 - Gallup at 18 million would be 3 year 54 + 6 million in dead money from Cooper. Basically 2 million a year. My point with all of this is Gallup is a much more valuable asset in terms of trading because of his contract now. I wouldn’t just give him up however, need to get a young defensive starter in his 2nd and 3rd year.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Ill give the jets mike gallup and a 6th and ill take quinnen and a 4th thanks

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yes, you are confused. It's a about how much dead cap you have to worry about. In the case of Cooper, you are on the hook for 20+ mil for several seasons still but, if you move on after the 21 season, your dead cap hit is 6 mil but you save yourself 16 mil in cap space for that season, another 22 mil in 2022 and another 22 mil in 2023. If Gallup did demand 18 mil and got it, he's still be significantly cheaper then Cooper.

And a worse player. This isnt most cap room wins you need to pay the better talent which amari cooper obviously is

 

[Hennessy_King]

We’d be trading a top 5-10 pick for him and he isn’t worth it. Better to have flexibility with the pick. I’d rather have a LB or OT in the first.

Stop with the o line crap. We have dumped so many resources into this line coaches need to work with that they got or pick a guy up in FA. Defense defense defense defense

 

[eromeopolk]

Did anyone watch the Washington game and see that Amari Cooper was the only WR catching footballs?

You want to trade a great WR that has a 4 year contract. Gallup will work itself out. He still has 1 year remaining, and the Cowboys have the 2021 and 2022 drafts to find another Gallup. Drew Pearson was UDFA, and Tony Hill a 3rd rounder. You do not need to draft a WR with premium round picks.

Trade straight up for BBQ (Big Bad Quinnen). He can play 4-3 DT or 3-4 DE.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Remember when Amari Cooper was young and talented enough to be worthy of a 1st round draft pick? Now people want him gone when he's only played one full season with the team.

 

[Verdict]

That's fine. I'm just not sending off what that pick is going to end up being for a guy that hasnt played consistently well....and also plays the same position as Gallimore and Hill.

Hey..I've listened to a radio show for years daily hosted by two very knowledgeable Jet fans and I've heard nothing but bad things.

He is also a passive type of guy. We need some dogs in here and he isnt it. They arent robots.

I've acknowledged that he could excel in the right spot and get better. Is THIS place really it??

Almost everyone around here wants the DC gone, which tells me we dont know what system we will run. What if he doesnt fit that? Are we to allow his skillset to be a factor?

Shouldnt be dealing the 35th pick in the draft for this guy. His stock has dropped lower. They would keep him otherwise.

I'm not on board here. Doubt the FO will be either so I'm not worried.

Itll be one of those deals where they want more then Dallas wants to pay.

In theory, I'm not just blindly saying not to deal picks like many do, I just dont like the player as as fit for this team at this time.

You would expect the Jets to want to make him part of the core of the team going forward. Ref flags and buyer beware on this pick unless they are just hoping to get someone to over pay in draft capital to get him.