Why do people keep insisting on calling Zeke fat?

RonnieT24 said:
LMAO.. yeah who cares about some arbitrary milestone? After all ask any Dak hater and they will tell you that stats don't mean anything anyway. The fact that Zeke produced like he was in games where we had been forced to pretty much abandon the running game for long stretches is a minor miracle. I have been more than satisfied with how Zeke has run this year given the reduced opportunities and the crappy line play in front of him to say nothing of the brain dead playcalling in the run game. He has been fighting and dragging tacklers every time he gets it. And he has had to.. because the line is not blowing open any big holes these days.. More like 6 inch creases here and there. The only issue I have had was the fumbles and he seems to have gotten that solved. Of course I just jinxed him now.
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“I have been more than satisfied with how zeke has run this year...”. That should tell you all about this homer clown.
 
Cowboy Lover said:
LOL....I think that I'm not.

We have a history of our #2 looking ridiculously bedazzled. Some were in neighborhood of 7 ypc.

Until they assumed the #1 and then fizzled or flaked. Pollard.....SEEMS...to fit right in that mold...in both flash and build. He just doesn't seem the kind of back...in collage AND NFL...to take the #1 pounding. Dual #1 RB's? I dunno..I haven't seen that system here ever. FB maybe, not RBs.

If we don't build the o-line back....you better be careful putting flash at #1 rb. You and me will be starting at QB at this rate.
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actually you are, i basically have been saying the same thing. Pollard is Joseph Randall 2.0 couldn't find the meat when needed fulltime lol
 
blueblood70 said:
actually you are, i basically have been saying the same thing. Pollard is Joseph Randall 2.0 couldn't find the meat when needed fulltime lol
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apples and oranges, imo - i don't recall Jo randle ever having the kind of lower body power and tackle breaking ability that Pollard has had.
 
quickccc said:
apples and oranges, imo - i don't recall Jo randle ever having the kind of lower body power and tackle breaking ability that Pollard has had.
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umm no one said they are the same body type etc but

who cares they both had high averages for game or two but overall the more volume you gave them the ypc dropped way off..the fans sated we didn't need a another RB Randall could do it.. whatever he did not.

backup is backup and like you overrating Pollard who wasn't a starter in college and if given the FT starter job here, will look like the backup he is, exposed..
 
blueblood70 said:
actually you are, i basically have been saying the same thing. Pollard is Joseph Randall 2.0 couldn't find the meat when needed fulltime lol
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AH...yes indeed. I think some multi-quotes got me twisted up.

How right you are kind sir. :thumbup:
 
blueblood70 said:
umm no one said they are the same body type etc but

who cares they both had high averages for game or two but overall the more volume you gave them the ypc dropped way off..the fans sated we didn't need a another RB Randall could do it.. whatever he did not.

backup is backup and like you overrating Pollard who wasn't a starter in college and if given the FT starter job here, will look like the backup he is, exposed..
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He might be referring to me. And my humble opinion Pollard looks (key word there) more like Randall than Zeke.

I'm not in on physical metrics of every player....like quickcc is.
 
i have to see a zeke that has a conditioning program that gets his body frame back to the 2016 version. - before i even endear any
thoughts of trading him off.

- Give him best chance of regaining that patented breakaway burst and agility.
There's no high hurdling in his game nowadays since he's bulked up the last couple of years.

- But i dunno what and how much this pandemic crisis will have over our strength conditioning program this coming offseason.
But we just will not get a different Zeke unless that's done, imo.

- Even when we had Tyron, Collins and Fredrick in, he wasn't the same explosive guy. And when i draft a RB with the 4th overall pick, i expect him
to be Adrian Peterson ike impact.
Never a guy that is big on really elusive moves, not really a Marshal Faulk like deadly pass catcher
but the guy that was high hurdling tacklers, was catching a quick screen and exploding to long TDs the guy that was always a 50-60 yard homerun threat
in 2016, ..we flat need that guy ..that element back !

- Always had the angry power runs and goal line drives and one of the better blitz blocking backs in NFL.
But the explosiveness is what is needed back
 
quickccc said:
i have to see a zeke that has a conditioning program that gets his body frame back to the 2016 version. - before i even endear any
thoughts of trading him off.

- Give him best chance of regaining that patented breakaway burst and agility.
There's no high hurdling in his game nowadays since he's bulked up the last couple of years.

- But i dunno what and how much this pandemic crisis will have over our strength conditioning program this coming offseason.
But we just will not get a different Zeke unless that's done, imo.

- Even when we had Tyron, Collins and Fredrick in, he wasn't the same explosive guy. And when i draft a RB with the 4th overall pick, i expect him
to be Adrian Peterson ike impact.
Never a guy that is big on really elusive moves, not really a Marshal Faulk like deadly pass catcher
but the guy that was high hurdling tacklers, was catching a quick screen and exploding to long TDs the guy that was always a 50-60 yard homerun threat
in 2016, ..we flat need that guy ..that element back !

- Always had the angry power runs and goal line drives and one of the better blitz blocking backs in NFL.
But the explosiveness is what is needed back
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I'm not sure who is on charge of his off-seasons.....but suspensions, holdouts, covid seems to have him eft up.
 
blueblood70 said:
umm no one said they are the same body type etc but

who cares they both had high averages for game or two but overall the more volume you gave them the ypc dropped way off..the fans sated we didn't need a another RB Randall could do it.. whatever he did not.

backup is backup and like you overrating Pollard who wasn't a starter in college and if given the FT starter job here, will look like the backup he is, exposed..
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No one said anything about body type here either... i'm talking about their game- their style. what one RBs brings to the table ..vs the other.
Pollard brought far more power to the game than what randle offered.

The Cowboys vastly thought and mistaken Randle to be a featured back and thus ignored RB class to add a possible one.
With Zeke here we don't have to explore that option with Pollard as they did gamble with Randle.

BTW, we have an OC that has misused the backs here in both the run game and most definitely the passing game.
We don't even conceive using Pollard in the passing game vs what i see from several other NFL teams with their change of pace backs.
i thought McCarthy's presence and input would have changed that. But it's clear that MM is letting Kellen Moore handle that
area, and as such the RBs are too much of a non-factor in the pass game
 
Cowboy Lover said:
I'm not sure who is on charge of his off-seasons.....but suspensions, holdouts, covid seems to have him eft up.
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although his suspensions were during the 2017 regular season.. would not have impacted what he did in his offseason in 2017.
 
Pollard, right so that narrative hes faster far more burst can break bigger plays..

His FEET may look faster makes choppier fast steps but he has 38 carries for 3.9 YPC average Zekes have a bad year and has a n average of 138 carries for yup 3.9 YPC so 4 times the carries same average, where are all the big runs by pollard? remind me?

they are the same height zeke weighs 15pounds heavier but had 4.47 40yd dash and pollard 4.57 combine numbers..

zeke had a 60 run and 84 yard pass plays as rookie in 2018 had 41yard run, Pollards longest run was 44 in 2019 and 14 this year 14! Zekes is 24!... Not trying to hate on Pollard but anyone insinuating hes better in any way then zeke is high..

but when the last time pollard looked fast? even that big kick return. pollard rep alone should have scored on that play, he didnt look fast at all.. dont mistake fast feet and some perceived burst for more big plays or being better. Zekes worse year is on the same level or better then pollard... I hope pollard does well hes a DC but hes not zeke and will never be..hes career backup and that his thing

all those big runs and big game Henry has had the big runs made individual games stats big but have not made him more productive then zeke with less carries and wear and year then Zeke has career 4.8 YPC and Zeke 4.6 ,Emmitt smith finished a long great career with 4.2 YPC..

just keep that in perspective..

the hate is ridiculous..
 
RonnieT24 said:
The guy parades around with his shirt up displaying his impressive six pack during warmups before every game .. How people conveniently unsee that and keep claiming he's fat, out of shape, yadda yadda yadda is just another illustration of just how blind their hatred is for this guy.
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No clue...
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quickccc said:
although his suspensions were during the 2017 regular season.. would not have impacted what he did in his offseason in 2017.
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Incorrect. The actual suspensions were 2017 seasons but the total BS went on all summer long. Its a distraction to someone with ADD and whatever else.
 
Cowboy Lover said:
Incorrect. The actual suspensions were 2017 seasons but the total BS went on all summer long. Its a distraction to someone with ADD and whatever else.
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what BS went on that " disrupt " physical his offseason program ?
 
Cowboy Lover said:
Incorrect. The actual suspensions were 2017 seasons but the total BS went on all summer long. Its a distraction to someone with ADD and whatever else.
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quickccc said:
what BS went on that " disrupt " physical his offseason program ?
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I think it weighed heavily on the kid's mind. Rightly or wrongly he probably felt like he did nothing to that girl that the NFL should be wanting to suspend him for. We can argue all day about whether he did or didn't but in his mind there is no question he didn't. If your mind aint right very little else is in life. I think it's one of the cruel jokes of nature that crazy chicks a lot times have the best P. So even though you know she crazy, and you have had to duck things that she's thrown at you or restrain her as she tried to beat the crap out of you because she thinks you looked at the waitress' butt too long.. Not saying I have any experiences like that but... you know.. we all have a friend who dated that crazy chick that we all couldn't figure out why he stayed with her.. So really just speaking theoretically here! LOL!
 
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