Dez Bryant promoted to Ravens active roster

Zman5

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When Lamb meets Dez when we play the Ravens in December.


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Could that also include you or is it just other people that don't always know what the hell your talking about. As far as your Warner and Moon examples the HUGE difference between them and Bryant is both NEVER sat not playing. They both played some kind of professional football keeping and honing their skills and didn't have off the field issues. Well Warmer finally did with the rams when they got tired of his wife butting in for Warner. As far as using HOF players most of the time players that hold or held or were very close to holding NFL records get in the HOF. Bryant is listed as 122 on receiving yards and 136 on catches so i think the chances are extremely slim that he'll ever get a gold jacket.

I'm not going to say anything about the current QB's because that has zero to do with Bryant.
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Right because facts which illustrate that your faith in NFL front offices seems to be misplaced shall be ignored.. Meanwhile you posted several times that "Dez was second in the league in drops in 2016 and led the league in drop sin 2017." Now drops are always a tricky stat to track because many times one man's drop is another man's poorly thrown ball.. But I went hunting and found a site that at least claims to have tracked them..


According to this site .. https://fantasyfootballers.org/strategy/nfl-receiver-drops/ Dez was charged with one drop in 2016.. on 96 targets. ONE!! Not only was he not "second in the league" he wasn't in the top 50..

Then I thought... Well maybe you were right about 2017.. so I looked.. but that site didn't have the numbers for 2017.. So I had to do some more digging. I found this article from the Washington Post http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/leaders.asp?year=2017&type=Receiving&range=NFL&rank=232 that says Dez dropped 6 passes in 2017.. which tied him for 5th in the league..

So it appears you memory of how bad Dez was may have been a little bit biased. Given that I am now inclined to question just how much of your expert assessment of Dez's performance needs be heeded and how much needs to be tossed in the trash.
 

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Hope he’s been working on his blocking for Lamar,.....doubt he gets to catch anything. Ha!
 

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In 2016 Dak was a bus driver that threw the ball to safe places, the slot and tight end and to the wrs close to the sidelines. I never said that Dez was here in 2018 I was stating that Dak didn't become a complete qb until 2019.

Your passion behind a player that hasn't been on the roster since 2017 speaks volumes about you and your character. You could easily avoid this post but........

Dak did become more of a complete player in 2019.

In 2019 he got a receiver who runs all routes well, and can get real separation.

You can also make the claim that Dak was hindered in 2017 and 2018 because he did not have any complete receivers, and none that could get separation.

Beasley was good at what he did, and could get separation, but he is a different type of receiver.

Dez had problems.
 

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Hope he does well. Would be a good 2020 story for a change
 

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My character for not remembering Bryant's earlier years but instead remembering what his play was like his last couple seasons. You still want to blame Prescott yet you don't have any real answer for Bryant leading the league in drops his last season nor does it explain that Bryant stomped off the field to the locker room like a spoiled little kid when the game wasn't over because he wasn't going to get the ball. Or how that caused problems in the locker room, yet you want to blame Prescott for all of Bryant's problems his last couple of seasons. If you want to think Bryant is the receiver of 2011 then knock your socks off but my memory is a lot better than that.
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People don't like to hear this but it's true, if a wr is not getting the ball early in the game then they lose focus especially if they are open.
Look im a big Dak fan now but if Dez had this Dak his career with would have been different.

The reason I like Dez is because you rarely find a player that genuinely loves the team he plays for. He was a fan before he was drafted and was heart broken when he was released.

This guy loved this team so much that he passed up great opportunities for the outside chance that the Cowboys would pick him up. It's funny it seems that Dez had the attitude about this team that most Cowboys fan should love but some seems to hate him. I mean he is on another team and people still hate him.

Honestly Coop is a better route runner and a better wr than Dez at this point but what Coop lacks is a fire that refuses to come off the field when the season is on the line. Being alright with being shutout of games and being ok with losing.

We actually miss someone who cares on this team.

Again cutting Dez could be justified from production standpoint but to place all the other ills with this organization on him was pure scapegoating.
 

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Dak did become more of a complete player in 2019.

In 2019 he got a receiver who runs all routes well, and can get real separation.

You can also make the claim that Dak was hindered in 2017 and 2018 because he did not have any complete receivers, and none that could get separation.

Beasley was good at what he did, and could get separation, but he is a different type of receiver.

Dez had problems.

With rookie and young qbs they have an affinity to throwing the ball to the closest targets i.e. tight ends and slot wrs. The reason is that they don't have to read the defense as much, they throw to the wrs only on the boundaries so they either hit the wr or it goes out of bounds.

It's just what they do and in 16, 17 and 18 that was Dak and I was skeptical. In 2019 Dak started throwing deep to medium over the middle, crossing routes and that opened the offense as you can see by his performance.

Those seasons Dak just had to go through to get to where he is today but Dez and the whole receiving corps suffered with his growth.

I'm not saying that Dez is blameless, he could have worked on his game, worked on his weaknesses but the Garrett staff pigeon holed these players and never asked them to do much more outside what they thought that he could do.

I would have liked to see him with a demanding coach, someone who would push him.
 

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Player fan! Get him!
Player fan? The Cowboys are absolutely out of it. I always root for the Cowboys, and when players leave us, I hope we kick their arse when we go up against them. But in this case, the Cowboys are playing for draft position. I love Dez and you are damn right I hope he tears it up.
 

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If he was a really good receiver his entire time in Dallas I would probably wish him luck but he wasn't. In fact his play had declined enough that the Cowboys didn't even offer him a new contract when his was up and just let him walk. If the saints hadn't lost their #1 and #3 receivers in back to back weeks Bryant probably would have ended up unsigned for the entire 2018 season. Good players don't sit unsigned, certainly not until week 10 of the 2018 season and then all of 2019 and until week 8 of 2020. People say he took 2019 off because of his injury but former players who had the same injury said that he was ready to go by week 3 or 4 in 2019 at the latest yet no team was interested in him. I think to many people here remember Bryant 2011 era and not what he was in 2016 and 2017.
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hmmm.... DEz suffered from the exact same issue all of our WRs are suffering from right now. We went from having the top WR trio in the NFL to having a bunch of scrubs in 1 week. Amari Cooper went from being the number 1 fantasy WR in the entire league to someone I wouldnt even start if I had him today. 1 catch for 5 yards last week. I guess we should just release Cooper, he sucks.

Thats exactly what happened to Dez. Then you say nobody wanted him? He signed with the Saints, a SB contender at that time and he promptly blew out his Achilles. Now he goes to a team that has a QB that is seriously struggling to throw the ball. So if Dez does nothing, it will be because he sucks, right? Well I guess all of the Ravens wr's suck then, because none of them are doing jack.
 

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Player fan? The Cowboys are absolutely out of it. I always root for the Cowboys, and when players leave us, I hope we kick their arse when we go up against them. But in this case, the Cowboys are playing for draft position. I love Dez and you are damn right I hope he tears it up.
It was a joke.
 

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wearing costumes to watch a game. i never did get it.
 

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People don't like to hear this but it's true, if a wr is not getting the ball early in the game then they lose focus especially if they are open.
Look im a big Dak fan now but if Dez had this Dak his career with would have been different.

The reason I like Dez is because you rarely find a player that genuinely loves the team he plays for. He was a fan before he was drafted and was heart broken when he was released.

This guy loved this team so much that he passed up great opportunities for the outside chance that the Cowboys would pick him up. It's funny it seems that Dez had the attitude about this team that most Cowboys fan should love but some seems to hate him. I mean he is on another team and people still hate him.

Honestly Coop is a better route runner and a better wr than Dez at this point but what Coop lacks is a fire that refuses to come off the field when the season is on the line. Being alright with being shutout of games and being ok with losing.

We actually miss someone who cares on this team.

Again cutting Dez could be justified from production standpoint but to place all the other ills with this organization on him was pure scapegoating.




Please tell us all the outside opportunities Bryant turned down waiting for the Cowboys to bring him back. Don't say any TV jobs because it was said that often when Bryant talked to the press he can across like a street punk.

Your assessment of Cooper and that he lacks the fire with the implication that Bryant did EXCEPT it was Bryant who stomped off the field to the locker room like a spoiled little kid before the game was over and the offense had the ball when the was told he wasn't going to get the ball. Ya tell us again about how much he loved playing for the Cowboys.

Your big defe3nse that if Bryant didn't get the ball early that he lost focus is just another way of saying that he's pouting which is not the type of character teams look for.

You can make up all the excuses you want but that doesn't change the fact that he's sat for long periods of time in between teams and really good player don't unless they have off the field issues. Bryant does has some but it's more because his skills dwindled.
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