Jerry Jones: Dak stats are “garbage time” [Personal Opinion Included]

gjkoeppen

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Some valid points , and dallas defense is a big issue . But Brees and Manning QBR stats you site should not be the only measure . These two had defenses focused on suppressing their play because they were the key to those team offensive scheme . Dallas key scheme is running hr football mostly to open up the pass . Plus these two QBs won SB and reached and won more playoff games .




Except the other teams have know for a couple three years that they really didn't have to fear Elliott anymore. The coaches of the other 31 teams saw that Elliott's production has fallen off every year so they haven't bought into running it to open up the passing.
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Many here will be very surprised where Prescott ends up and for how much when he hits the FA market.
The only place he is considered a top-notch QB is here in the CZ or the media which is mostly guided and controlled by the top agents such as Mr.Todd.
31 GM classified him a Tier 3 QB and that's exactly what(if he's lucky after the injury)he will be offered as a FA.



I'll bet that you think there was a 2nd gunman in the grassy knoll since you think the media is controlled by agents. This I know is going to shock you but the other 31 GM's haven't said anything about Prescott so you who is a well know Prescott hater saying the other 31 GM's share your hatred makes as much sense as saying in this country the sun rises in the west
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I'll bet that you think there was a 2nd gunman in the grassy knoll since you think the media is controlled by agents. This I know is going to shock you but the other 31 GM's haven't said anything about Prescott so you who is a well know Prescott hater saying the other 31 GM's share your hatred makes as much sense as saying in this country the sun rises in the west
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Eat this hate and truth about Prescott.
Bon Appetit....
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What a bunch of crap, Jerry!!!

Does this look like "garbage time" Dak stats???

Does this look like all 5 of those teams' Defenses were "allowing" Dak and the Cowboys Offense to "put up" stats???



You're full of crap for saying that, Jerry!!! So disrespectful to Dak, this whole Offense, O-Coordinator Kellen Moore, Head Coach Mike McCarthy and the coaching staff!

I've lost so much respect for you for being a weasel for saying such lies. Yes, we get it, that's your way of making up lies in order to weasel your way to make a drastic shortball contract offer to Dak this upcoming offseason, but you should at least have the guts to tell us all you simply don't want to pay Dak what he's earned and what he's truly worth...instead of making up lies!!!

I wish there was a "throwing the bird" emoticon to use here, because this "banging head on a brick wall" one gives my feelings towards this sniveling weasel of an owner no justice!
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Jerry Jones is a backstabbing con-artist who will lowball his most important and best producing player on his team while making up lies to justify his actions. Folks, that's the sign of a COWARD!

I hope Dak goes elsewhere where he will be appreciated and paid his worth for what he brings to the table. It's clear Jerry doesn't want to pay Dak his worth, even though Jerry has so quickly overpaid so many others who have not lived up to being so overpaid. Forget you, Jerry, and your unappreciative ways of thinking! You deserve nothing but misery from this day forward, you weasel. I hope you draft another QB with a high pick...and that QB ends up being a big failure who doesn't even come close to putting up stats and moving this team's offense into scoring the way Dak has these past 4.3 years. I want to see karma hit you square in the face simply for being an unappreciative weasel who refused to take care of the best player you were lucky to have these past 4+ years, Jerry!


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Dak had his most prolific seasons after this article was published.
Yall gotta stop with this nonsense.


Volume stats for a QB are overrated. Especially in the manner in which Dak accrued them in. He was 10th in passer rating.

Its like saying 2012 was Romo’s best season when it was actually his worst.


Dak’s best season still is 2016. Its a damn shame you homers want to pay him and he still hasnt repeat what he did as a rookie :facepalm:
 

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The radio announcer took what Jones said as garbage time but in reality it could mean that defenses were playing prevent defenses which often allows the other team to move the ball down the field but not give up any long plays until before they know it the other team is in the red zone.
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That’s exactly what Jethro meant. And he’s said before.

This interview is being taken out of context with a certain segment of fans.

I’ve been a critic of Dak in some aspects but our dysfunctional ownership just a few days ago said they were all in with Dak.

This is just a negotiable ploy as his stock has rose since the Cowboys have plummeted after his injury when it’s obvious how critical he is to our offense.

Cowboys are still going to try and lowball paying Dak. And if he doesn’t cooperate they might let him walk.
 

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All of a sudden defenses stop "letting" the Cowboys move and score the ball in "garbage time" once Dalton became the QB even though some insisted that the team and offense would thrive and even be better with Dalton as the quarterback over Dak.


You could give him more than a game or two?
 

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Eh, he isn’t entirely wrong. In the games we played this year the offense not only failed to generate points consistently, it also played a leading role in turning the ball over early and getting the team into early holes that would then require them to abandon the run and start tossing the ball around. Even in games where they started with a score the offense would then just disappear for long stretches of the game and then wake up in the 4th and try to stage a comeback.
 

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Yall gotta stop with this nonsense.


Volume stats for a QB are overrated. Especially in the manner in which Dak accrued them in. He was 10th in passer rating.

Its like saying 2012 was Romo’s best season when it was actually his worst.


Dak’s best season still is 2016. Its a damn shame you homers want to pay him and he still hasnt repeat what he did as a rookie :facepalm:
For all of you haters that keep chirping about 2016 and how stats are used, you all fail to realize it's a team sport and 2016 was clearly the best team he's played on, so OF COURSE his rating is going to be higher. That's how it works. But this thread wasn't about that it was that Prescott got all of his statistics in "garbage time." Which is also inaccurate and misrepresented.
 

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Dak had his most prolific seasons after this article was published.

It was posted in July 2019. Dak followed that up with an 8-8 record with a healthy O-line and several really bad losses during the season, the worst of which was the embarrassing display against the Jets. Fast forward to 2020 and he had a 1-3 record before the injury, and the team would be no better off right now had he not gotten hurt.

I guess I'm missing how Dak was so 'prolific' after that article was posted.
 

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Not Mahome's contract. My bad. I meant Dak is asking for 40 million a year. And you should know by now I don't make things up.
Actually, I don't know that he is asking for $40 million. I think that's just speculation after Mahomes and Watson signed. Regardless, that's not what he was asking this past off season. Reports were he wanted a 4 year deal in the same range or slightly higher than Wentz and Goff got for their 4 year extension.
 

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It was posted in July 2019. Dak followed that up with an 8-8 record with a healthy O-line and several really bad losses during the season, the worst of which was the embarrassing display against the Jets. Fast forward to 2020 and he had a 1-3 record before the injury and the team would be no better off right now had he not gotten hurt.

I guess I'm missing how Dak was so 'prolific' after that article was posted.
You bring up the healthy OL then proceed to bring up the jets game where he was missing both starting tackles and his starting 2 WR. But sure.
 

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Some valid points , and dallas defense is a big issue . But Brees and Manning QBR stats you site should not be the only measure . These two had defenses focused on suppressing their play because they were the key to those team offensive scheme . Dallas key scheme is running hr football mostly to open up the pass . Plus these two QBs won SB and reached and won more playoff games .
I understand it's not 100% apples to apples, although I will say early in his career defenses were not worried that much about Brees. He didn't come into the league with the same status as Manning, and wasn't putting up 4,000+ yard seasons.

And I agree it's not the only measure, but that was the measure being used in the quote I responded to. I was actually making the point that that this isn't the only measure.
 

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But this thread wasn't about that it was that Prescott got all of his statistics in "garbage time." Which is also inaccurate and misrepresented.

Its all about perception. One half of the crowd thinks Dak single-handedly brought the team back from huge deficits the first three games, and in the meantime was on pace for a record setting season. The other half see that Dallas fell so far behind those first 3 games that the opposing defenses were able to slip into prevent style defenses as early as the 1st quarter. This allowed Dak to start piling up stats by the truck load.

What is 'incorrect and misrepresented' about the latter part? It seems to me that the latter part is more accurate than the former, but again, its all about perception. If I'm on an opposing defense I too would probably ease up quite a bit if I had a 24 point lead way before half time.
 

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Its all about perception. One half of the crowd thinks Dak single-handedly brought the team back from huge deficits the first three games, and in the meantime was on pace for a record setting season. The other half see that Dallas fell so far behind those first 3 games that the opposing defenses were able to slip into prevent style defenses as early as the 1st quarter. This allowed Dak to start piling up stats by the truck load.

What is 'incorrect and misrepresented' about the latter part? It seems to me that the latter part is more accurate than the former, but again, its all about perception. If I'm on an opposing defense I too would probably ease up quite a bit if I had a 24 point lead way before half time.
Show me one person that said that, not to mention "half."

Also, you're just wrong. I've seen no evidence that teams went into prevent with a lead. Show me! I'd love to see it.
The fact is that this season is quite the contrary to your claims. It has nothing to do with perception.
 
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