Did Dalton play himself into a starter contract?

[Fla Cowpoke]

I dont disagree, i'd probably take Dalton over Fitz too, but you never know what front offices are thinking. Dalton didnt do enough get much attention last offseason, has this year changed that? If Dallas doesnt keep him as a starter in 2021 i'd hope he lands a big deal for the comp pick, but im skeptical he is going to be a super hot commodity. Maybe a team like Indy would make sense if rivers retires. Maybe New England.

I could really see him in NE running the Brady short passing offense.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Did Dalton play himself into a starter contract?

Not if you want to win games in January. Dalton is still Dalton. He racked up yardage today because of the WR's YAC not because he was such a great passer. He still holds onto the ball to long (which leads to unnecessary sacks) and makes bad throws. He made some good throws today but let's not pretend he can suddenly be anything more than what he was in Cincinnati.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Not if you want to win games in January. Dalton is still Dalton. He racked up yardage today because of the WR's YAC not because he was such a great passer. He still holds onto the ball to long (which leads to unnecessary sacks) and makes bad throws. He made some good throws today but let's not pretend he can suddenly be anything more than what he was in Cincinnati.

Now that you've mentioned this, one of the things that Dak critics have done to discredit him is say that the WRs gaining YAC shouldn't count towards Dak's stats and that Dak shouldn't get the credit since it's the WRs that doing "all of the work." So as I said before some fans ust love to hold Dak to different standards and discredit him for aspects of the game that they wouldn't discredit another QB for accomplishing.

 

[mardwin]

Dalton just played his way out of Dallas.

Ok, pay Dak $40M or pay Dalton $15M? Tell me something, who does Dak make better? All 3 receivers are performing with Dalton playing with a back up offensive line.

 

[mardwin]

Keeping Dalton and tag and trade Dak is much more lucrative and smarter.

That's the way to go. Get a high pick for Dak and lock Dalton for a couple of years.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Everyone better be careful with the Dalton talk.

He has a lot of foibles that came with him from Cincy, and showed in this game.

Not leading receivers, being slow of foot panicking himself out of good throws.

Examples. Poor lead of Lamb on crossing route. Lamb on the intercepted post route in the seam should have been lobbed. The proper decision/technique on a crossing seam/post is if WR is crossing the defender's face fire in the small window dart. If he is behind the defender's face lob it over the defender and let your player go and get it. Option two only gives your player a chance on the ball, and if you miss there is no harm as it falls beyond the outstretched hands of Lamb who was behind the defender.

Remember the Andy Dalton of 2019. 16 TDS and 14 INTs. A 5% Int percentage, and took 37 sacks for a 6.5% sack percentage.


I would not offer him a starter's contract or a starter's role. If that is his desire i would let him go, and welcome a third round compensatory pick.

 

[Kwyn]

Andy Dalton seems to be on a good streak this Kellen gun offense and 3 game win streak ,, seem like he's gain great confidence and rhythm en route to big plays in pass game

this could make him look more attractive in the FA market .. teams like the Pats, ..or Washington that could have really used him

His age (33 yrs) will be something going against him long term. but i could see Pats signing him as a stopgap starter until a a grooming young buck draftee is ready to take the wheels

He's like a Ryan Fitzpatrick

No. Barring a team having an injury in training camp, Dalton is now firmly in journeyman backup status for the duration

there are better backups than him on rosters right now and that’s not changing

 

[SackMaster]

If he can make a living beating teams with a losing record.

While his defense gives him 3+ turnovers a game.

Sure, he is All-Pro material then </sarcasm>

While I'm sure Dalton will start some more games in his career, I don't think he will ever be QB1 going into a season without a situation with another QB (injury, holdout, ect...)

 

[Jstopper]

he can read a defense unlike the other guy and knows he has to get the ball out fast because of the weak offensive line. Being able to read the defense is what we've been missing with the other guy. When the offensive line was missing one guy, read that again, one guy, everybody blamed the offensive line. Let that slow reader play behind this line and he would have been in shell shock again like a few year back against Atlanta.

how can a person watch football as long as you have and be as clueless as you?

 

[Jstopper]

I've said it before and I'll say it again as Dalton is staying and Dak is leaving!
Book it!!!!!

when you’re wrong and Dalton leaves you have to leave this site with him, agreed?

 

[MikeB80]

There are not many jobs available and of those available I don't think any of them are going to want a qb on the other side of 30.

Jacksonville
New England
washington

are really the only teams that really need a starter.

Teams with 3 qb's who could retire
Tampa
New Orleans
Indianapolis.

So not many jobs available. Throw in wentz and darnold could be available via trade Dalton has nearly no chance at a starters job and is probably best suited for the role he is in here.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Keeping Dalton and tag and trade Dak is much more lucrative and smarter.

I laugh at people that say tag and trade Prescott. For all the reason those people want to trade him if true and accurate are the very same reasons there won't be any takers. Those people keep saying Prescott does this or that and doesn't do this or that and then his tag amount as their reasons and thiose are the same reasons that teams would want he if true. Unfortunately form those that want Prescott gone, he won't be.
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[ShaneFalco]

That's the way to go. Get a high pick for Dak and lock Dalton for a couple of years.

I don’t think your getting a “high” pick. LOL. Especially if he has lingering injury issues.
A 2nd? Sure. I bet DAL could swing a mid round 2nd for him if he was 100% healthy and was cleared to a team looking for a bridge QB to the rookie QB in a season or two. I think if you wanted to make it worth it, you would have to package a couple players and pick(s) to get where you want to go though.

 

[mardwin]

I don’t think your getting a “high” pick. LOL. Especially if he has lingering injury issues.
A 2nd? Sure. I bet DAL could swing a mid round 2nd for him if he was 100% healthy and was cleared to a team looking for a bridge QB to the rookie QB in a season or two. I think if you wanted to make it worth it, you would have to package a couple players and pick(s) to get where you want to go though.

Call Denver, Chicago, New England, Washington, Detroit, Carolina and they will all consider it

 

[gjkoeppen]

No.......it's only one game. Besides, the Eagles D was giving away yards today, not a good test IMO.

This is so right. Dalton has had ONE really good game and now there are people here that think that one good game completely erases all the rest of the average at best games.
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[king987]

Hard to say. I could see a team signing Dalton as a stopgap, then drafting a rookie QB who clearly needs time to develop.

I could just as easily see Dalton being satisfied as Dak's backup and getting paid nicely to do so.

It really comes down to what Dalton wants at this point of his career.

 

[Beaker42]

I've said it before and I'll say it again as Dalton is staying and Dak is leaving!
Book it!!!!!

LOL the only way we don’t have Dak next season is if we tag him and some moron team offers us 2 firsts for him.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Call Denver, Chicago, New England, Washington, Detroit, Carolina and they will all consider it

Anything’s possible. I doubt all those teams consider it. And if they do, it will be with the contingent that Dak takes considerably less than the QB they are getting rid of. See, Dak thinks he’s worth Russell Wilson money. That’s why the tag happened. Because the FO knows he simply isn’t. And he isn’t Wilson. He isn’t even remotely close. He’s a Kirk Cousins level QB and that’s neato. But to me, in the end, he’s just a waste of time and money and effort. Dak or even Dalton are the guys you get when you didn’t get the franchise QB. Until then, DAL is just wasting time as far as I’m concerned.
I say go and get the franchise guy. And stop wasting everyone’s time.

 

[JoeKing]

He should be a starter on another team.

 

[mardwin]

Anything’s possible. I doubt all those teams consider it. And if they do, it will be with the contingent that Dak takes considerably less than the QB they are getting rid of. See, Dak thinks he’s worth Russell Wilson money. That’s why the tag happened. Because the FO knows he simply isn’t. And he isn’t Wilson. He isn’t even remotely close. He’s a Kirk Cousins level QB and that’s neato. But to me, in the end, he’s just a waste of time and money and effort. Dak or even Dalton are the guys you get when you didn’t get the franchise QB. Until then, DAL is just wasting time as far as I’m concerned.
I say go and get the franchise guy. And stop wasting everyone’s time.

I agree don't think he's in the elite

Anything’s possible. I doubt all those teams consider it. And if they do, it will be with the contingent that Dak takes considerably less than the QB they are getting rid of. See, Dak thinks he’s worth Russell Wilson money. That’s why the tag happened. Because the FO knows he simply isn’t. And he isn’t Wilson. He isn’t even remotely close. He’s a Kirk Cousins level QB and that’s neato. But to me, in the end, he’s just a waste of time and money and effort. Dak or even Dalton are the guys you get when you didn’t get the franchise QB. Until then, DAL is just wasting time as far as I’m concerned.
I say go and get the franchise guy. And stop wasting everyone’s time.

I agree, Dak is not in that elite category. He's a good QB that can make plays but needs a roster loaded with above average talent to perform well. Not sure how feasible it would be to have him at $40M per YR and try to improve the defense and offensive line.