Once Again, Dalton folds in a big game

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I think you're the one with a ******** pick of Dak in yours.:muttley:
they say, psychologically, when someone starts to throw expletives at somebody who they are arguing, its because they feel they lost the argument.....

is that how you feel? but that's what happens when you choose the losing side of the argument
 

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Is this guy serious?

Prescott laid an egg against a terrible Eagles team with the division on the line. Did nothing. 3 FGs.
but is 7-7 not better than 5-10....and didn't Dalton lay a huge egg yesterday? against a 5-10 team...and no matter how you cut it Eagles won the division....so learn to deal with it......and Dalton got blown out twice...not once, but twice, second time worse than the first against a 7-9 division winner......

you can't dispute the facts...so you can just go based on your assumptions which is what you have done..
 

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oh, poor plummer....he got hit and got a booboo

but man tell me more about his porn collection.....do you have some of what he had?
Also why is it OK to use Peyton for examples but not Plummer?
Plummers porn collection consists of you getting reamed like how we’re verbally bending you over in this thread.
 

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but is 7-7 not better than 5-10....and didn't Dalton lay a huge egg yesterday? against a 5-10 team...and no matter how you cut it Eagles won the division....so learn to deal with it......and Dalton got blown out twice...not once, but twice, second time worse than the first against a 7-9 division winner......

you can't dispute the facts...so you can just go based on your assumptions which is what you have done..

Who cares 7-7 vs 5-10? These are mediocre teams and whatever you think Dalton did yesterday he played infinitely better than that stiff Prescott last year who couldn't get the ball into the end zone even once with our season on the line.
 

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Me unhinged??? Looks like the unhinged one is YOU since I realized you took your age off of your profile for all to see!

What's the matter? Afraid people are going to realize how an old fart like yourself can be so dumb but also such a whiner? LMAO!
Haven’t touched my profile, so just a fabrication from you. Have the ward nurse give you your meds to help calm you down.
 

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Dak is top 7 and moving up top 5. Making you look like a complete fool with your dumb prediction that he was backup material.

Your in the dunce/cry baby category that couldn’t see the talent and leadership and will continue to cry as he leads our offense for the next 5 years minimum.
Another unhinged Dak sycophant who makes up what others say, never said Dak was a back up but then don’t let the truth get in the way.
 

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Looked like the Eagles game last year, except they scored?
 

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you speak of play action as if its a bad thing.....and tell me what the drop is for brees, rodgers, etc. going to their second progression.

and most importantly where did you pull that false fabricated stat from...but I like the ad libbing and making up stuff. its pretty good. very imaginative.

Brees, Mahomes and Rodgers were ranked top 3 in 2019 if that helps.. the mighty Dak Prescott went from a 83.9 passer rating to a whopping 54.1 per PFF. But yeah, I fabricated it..
 

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wait andy made it real, you mean make it a close game with a chance to pull it out at the end, so it wasn't garbage yards,

but I have multiple posts from you, when dak made it close and made it a game at the end, you called it garbage yards.

which is it?

Uh, unlike Dak, Andy was trading blows with Jones, while Dak against the Eagles was down 17-3 the whole game.. Andy doesn’t go down 27 points to the Browns into the fourth quarter to then pad a bunch of stats against soft, prevent defense

Well, Dak got a FG against the third string corners from Philly in the fourth after being gifted the ball at the Cowboys 44, but I guess the defense didn’t hold for him...

Clearly you don’t the difference between garbage time and being down like 20 into the fourth and actually trading blows with the opposing teams first string defense until Lamb drops a wide open pass right in his hands, but OK..
 

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the reason andy has a much shorter time to throw is because he dinks and dunks the ball, he doesn't go deep. its pretty typical of his career....he has no pocket awareness and often got easily sacked in longer routes and throws. his longest throws of the year were due to WRs getting a lot of YAC on thier own.

Dalton couldn't beat a 5-10 team with their starting QBs, but I give it to him, he was able to beat a bunch of 4 win teams playing their back up QBs....and got help with 9 turnovers....which was the difference in the game yesterday. he couldn't drive the team down the field if the defense didn't give him the ball on the opponent end of the field or score for him.

You mean his playing in a West Coast offense all his life has nothing to do with his quick release. It’s all dink and dunk!!!

So basically your argument is that Andy had 3.2 seconds to throw like Dak did against the Vikings, but chose to ‘dink and dunk it’ a second early ag 2.16 seconds to actually win the game. His third string OL was actually giving him as much time to block as Smith, Frederick, Martin, and Collins.. OK sure buddy..

please explain why Andy Dalton threw less passes off play-action in 11 games than Dak threw in 5, of it was all because Andy was dinking and dunking and not going deep.. Does Andy call play action plays now as opposed to Moore, or did Moore actually adjust the play calling for the garbage OL?
 
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Dak is awful between the 11:14 mark of 2nd quarter and 5:14 mark of 3rd quarter, in games played against AFC, north of mississipi in games starting at 4:00 PM...he is down right awful in those conditions...

Just another completely asinine remark to try and redeem Dak for completely sucking when he actually needs to score a TD to WIN THE GAME, but completely ‘choked’. But, but Dak is always on the verge of ‘bringing us back making it competitive’ yet it’s his defense fault for choking, while Dak is below the league average in QB rating when the team actually needs a TD to win. That’s the very definition of a stat padder pretender that only puts up numbers in garbage time.
 
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They both had injuries and awful circumstances. Who wants to talk about who had worse circumstances? They both did, lol. Dak had Smith and Collins out and as soon as you take them out, the offensive line is already shot, so why are you comparing which offensive line was worse? They both were bad and depleted.

Let's just make it simple here.... no one is winning with this team. There were way too many injuries and the team is just a mess right now.

Yes I get that yards don't matter, but it just means that Dak and his offense were the only things good about this team in the first 5 games. I'm just evaluating individual aspects separately. You seem to discount Dak and his contribution to our offense by saying "we're not winning, so who cares." That's kind of ignorant, man.

Dak had a while training camp playing under the same offensive line for five games. He also had the best player on the team bar none the whole time he was playing, meaning Zach Martin. Andy didn’t have Martin more than one quarter and Andy and the other QBs on the other hand had 15 different starting fives in ten games as an OL.

Stop making excuses for the pretender that is Dak. Couldn’t even put up double digits against a winning team when Smith went out and Zeke was suspended in the middle of the season and struggled against the three worst teams in the league in Commanders, Giants and Raiders. That is how Dak handles ‘adversity’ when it happens suddenly in the middle of the season. And all we heard from Dak supporters was it wasn’t his fault, it was because Smith was out and the coaching staff couldn’t adjust.
 

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The Dak led Cowboys had the largest TO differential in the league. Dak was contributing to the opposing defenses getting turnovers, including in scoring territory, like against Seattle, while Andy on the other hand, was protecting the ball despite the garbage OL during their run. Andy had like 13 TDs and only 4 INTs and the three INTs that the defense got against the Eagles were in complete garbage time, when Dallas had built a huge lead and Hurt was pressing.
 

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The Dak led Cowboys had the largest TO differential in the league. Dak was contributing to the opposing defenses getting turnovers, including in scoring territory, like against Seattle, while Andy on the other hand, was protecting the ball despite the garbage OL during their run. Andy had like 13 TDs and only 4 INTs and the three INTs that the defense got against the Eagles were in complete garbage time, when Dallas had built a huge lead and Hurt was pressing.
Dalton literally threw an INT to lose the game.
 

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Dalton literally threw an INT to lose the game.

Yes we know that, after CeeDee Lamb dropped a perfect pass right in his hands that would have most likely been a TD, right after a play call where Moore had an empty backfield in the red-zone that led to a sack.. but unlike Dak and all the play-action, the ‘backup QB’, with a third string Patchwork OL, made the game competitive when it mattered and didn’t choke a whole game again at third string cornerback scrubs..
 

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Yes we know that, after CeeDee Lamb dropped a perfect pass right in his hands that would have most likely been a TD, right after a play call where Moore had an empty backfield in the red-zone that led to a sack.. but unlike Dak and all the play-action, the ‘backup QB’, with a third string Patchwork OL, made the game competitive when it mattered and didn’t choke a whole game again at third string cornerback scrubs..

That drop by Lamb was just a back breaker. Then Moore leaves Dalton out to dry and practically gets him murdered. The underneath was there all day and Andy who led the team in rushing used it to great effect but Moore wanted to suddenly try to develop passes downfield with a craptastic o line.
 

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We should all know what it looks like here....Dakota, aka, “mr 1-2 in the playoffs” has gone AWOL in almost every big game against good defenses in the last 5 years

But he’s been a daisy against the crappy ones
 
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