Twitter: KC: Dak must reach playoffs consistently if he's paid premium QB money

[ShaneFalco]

The Chiefs can do it because they are actually paying Mahomes big money AFTER the CBA is signed. Combining 4th and 5th year of Daks professional earnings he was actually paid more than Mahomes.

The problem has always been that we are continually chase our tails paying Dead Cap. Dak's years were wasted .....because we paid Romo $60 in Dead Cap for the years 2016-2018.

We've been restructuring since. There are some who look to the past and say "we've always found the money"....well at the time we did and pay later, unfortunately it's never worked.

The question about Dak isnt really about him and his abilities, it's about being able to build a team....we ahve to write off 2022/23 rather than making the same mistakes again and again.


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KC was already built to win before Mahomes got there. They were consistently going to the playoffs with Smith. Andy realize just like Shanahan with Plummer that he needed an “elite” QB to get over the hump. The hump being other “elite” QBs in the playoffs. Shanahan kept meeting Peyton, Brady and Ben in the playoffs with disastrous results usually. Plummer won some games but couldn’t get over each “elite” hill as the years went by.
Tak is not “elite”. He’s a Smith. Or a Plummer.

 

[Qcard]

No I thought Kaaya's game translated to the pro's better while also saying Mahomes was super talent that needed a Bill Parcells type to coach all of the wild out of him.. Please properly comprehend.


Also, Mahomes signed a loooooong extension. He's still got 2 years left on his rookie deal I believe.

Exactly, the Cowboys should have extended Dak after 2017 season or during 2018 Season.

Dak Haters like you (mostly undercover Romo hype machine) at the time we’re in full blown hate mode.

McClay can't build squat with Dak cheap. He's already shown that. He's not going to suddenly pay Dak and fix everything on a roster trending down. You have more faith in a team that's been to the playoffs 3 times in the last 10 years than I do.

Blah blah...this team wasn’t cap trapped. How did McClay get Amari and resign to top $$$? The Cowboys went bargain basement hunting on defense. They had cap space.

Notice how the Dak Haters lump in 6 years of Tony Romo (Last 10 years) as only going to the play-offs 3 times when Dak is responsible for 2 out the last 4 years/ seasons.

Your Dak Hate is intellectual but please stop moving the goal post.

Romo went to Playoffs once in his last 6 seasons.

Dak Prescott Matched Tony Romo in his first 4 seasons.


Move the goal post again..... @CATCH17 K&C and Masterpiece are selling radio spots....

 

[CowboyoWales]

Why did they not touch on other guys on the highest paid QB list like Stafford, Watson, Cousins, Garrapolo, Wentz, Ryan etc? How do they get a pass on the making the playoffs every year requirement? The issue for this team is not the quarterback.. To paraphrase Bill Clinton, it's the defense, stupid. None of the guys cited as "putting teams on their backs" has ever made a single defensive stop or a special teams tackle or run a kick back. Let's start by trying to field a defense that gives up less than 30 points a game and 180 yards rushing at 5 YARDS PER CARRY! and go from there. Or maybe a special teams that doesn't start the offense at the 1 foot line or fail on fake punts deep in your own territory half a dozen times. Dak (and Romo for most of his career) has been playing with one hand tied behind his back because of how bad the defense in Dallas has been for the better part of the last decade. Even though he defense has been rated in the upper half of the league for the last 5 years the offense holding onto the ball and shortening games has been the primary reason they have not been ranked worse. When needed to make a key stop they have consistently failed. And the poop really hit the fan this year with Mike Nolan and his nickel defense against two tight end offense alignment. Damn just thinking about that makes me wanna punch something.. or someone.

But with the bad contracts hitting us in for at least the next two years, coupled with the development time for drafted players (sorry, We can Draft a Defense), the question remains whether it's capable for us to challenge in the foreseeable future.

Paying $30m+ on a QB when we are years away from challenging is somewhat questionable especially as Jerry would have to restructure those poor contracts to free up CAP space for even the Poe's, Clinton-Dix, Injury projects like McCoy of this world.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The Chiefs can do it because they are actually paying Mahomes big money AFTER the CBA is signed. Combining 4th and 5th year of Daks professional earnings he was actually paid more than Mahomes.

The problem has always been that we are continually chase our tails paying Dead Cap. Dak's years were wasted .....because we paid Romo $60 in Dead Cap for the years 2016-2018.

We've been restructuring since. There are some who look to the past and say "we've always found the money"....well at the time we did and pay later, unfortunately it's never worked.

The question about Dak isnt really about him and his abilities, it's about being able to build a team....we ahve to write off 2022/23 rather than making the same mistakes again and again.




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My post has nothing to do with the cap which is fine here. I’m pointing to the thought that you don’t have to put pieces around a 40 million dollar guy.

 

[CowboyoWales]

KC was already built to win before Mahomes got there. They were consistently going to the playoffs with Smith. Andy realize just like Shanahan with Plummer that he needed an “elite” QB to get over the hump. The hump being other “elite” QBs in the playoffs. Shanahan kept meeting Peyton, Brady and Ben in the playoffs with disastrous results usually. Plummer won some games but couldn’t get over each “elite” hill as the years went by.
Tak is not “elite”. He’s a Smith. Or a Plummer.

Exactly, Mahomes was the final piece and he worked.... Dak may work but he's not the final piece of the puzzle.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Well said! The elite money should be reserved for the few who actually are great. Too many people on here think next man up deserves highest salary.

Fiddling over a few million here and there is all it is. Nit picking. The QB position isnt like any other. Any QB in the top 10 is going to get top tier money on a new contract whether any of us like it or not. Best guys are going to reset the market, like Mahomes just did, Rogers did, Wilson did.

That's just the way it is. Dak's 35 million wouldnt have reset anything. IN fact it was right in line where his talent level compared to current salaries.

Dak trolls badly lost the Dak debate and cant live with the shame of it.

40 million was a just a fake news lie by the trolls because they needed to inflate things to grasp at making their point sound remotely credible.

Dak trolls are complaining about what really? 3-5 million dollars one way or the other? Not going to make or break anything in the scheme of things. What is 5 million going to get you in FA? A solid veteran? Its nonsense, nothing more.

Finding a leader like Dak with his skills at the QB position is so hard to find. You pay the guy, especially when he is hitting his prime.

 

[CATCH17]

Exactly, the Cowboys should have extended Dak after 2017 season or during 2018 Season.

Dak Haters like you (mostly undercover Romo hype machine) at the time we’re in full blown hate mode.

Blah blah...this team wasn’t cap trapped. How did McClay get Amari and resign to top $$$? The Cowboys went bargain basement hunting on defense. They had cap space.

Notice how the Dak Haters lump in 6 years of Tony Romo (Last 10 years) as only going to the play-offs 3 times when Dak is responsible for 2 out the last 4 years/ seasons.

Your Dak Hate is intellectual but please stop moving the goal post.

Romo went to Playoffs once in his last 6 seasons.

Dak Prescott Matched Tony Romo in his first 4 seasons.


Move the goal post again..... @CATCH17 K&C and Masterpiece are selling radio spots....

What goal posts did I move?

My goal is to win Superbowls. I really don’t care how we get there but I see a trending protocol that paying Dak all duh monies asks me to ignore.

We were a watermelon kick from 0-4 this year.. Dude just isn’t a difference maker and paying him like he is hurts my football team.

 

[RonnieT24]

All of a sudden, we have some promising young lineman on the team. Biadasz and McGovern. Collins is the big mystery. If all we have to replace is Smith in a few years, I dont see a big issue.

Besides, Dak was running the #1 offense in football with both Collins and Smith out of the lineup.

Dak has gotten so good, that I dont believe we need the best line in football anymore. And we certainly dont need Zeke anymore.

Collins, Martin, Biadasz, McGovern, Smith with Williams, Knight, Steele as backups is looking great going into next season.

Now we probably dont have the great Andy Dalton, but......................................

Let's not get carried away now. I think Dak has evolved into a top tier QB but I am not going to say he can just drop back and sling it 50 times and we win consistently. We need the running game to balance things out so that we can dictate the tempo of the game, control the clock and force teams to bring a safety up to help out against the run. In order to do that you need a god runner and a good line. Maybe not best in the league but not hot garbage either. Same goes for running back. Leaving Zeke out of the equation we do need someone defenses have to pay attention to. If we don't have that then teams rush three drop 8 and take their chances that one of your sorry linemen will hold or that the 3 man rush will get there like it did against Dalton a half dozen times last Sunday. I do agree that the line rotation looks promising next year. I know Smith and Collins are coming off surgeries so we need to have a plan for if those didn't fix the problem.. especially in Tyron's case. Anything in the spine/neck area is tricky so somebody needs to be trained up to step in if he can't go. Even if it's Zack..

 

[Qcard]

I heard this on my lunch break.. Good stuff.




Some facts.

Green Bay has made the playoffs 8 of last 10 years. The only 2 they didn't make it were McCarthy's final 2 seasons..

New Orleans has made it the last 4 years and 6 out of the last 10.

Seattle has only missed the playoffs 1 time with Russell Wilson.

Tom Brady has made the playoffs 10 out of the last 10 years. It's been awhile until since Tampa has been to the playoffs

Mahomes has went 3 years in a row.

This is why you pay the elite guys and let the not so elites walk if they want elite money.

So much fluff based on a false premise some how Dak Precott’s 2 Playoff appearances are lumped in with Garbage Stat inflated last 6 years of Tony Romo’s career that yielded 1 playoff appearance and the Dez Rule....


Last 10 years 3 play-off appearances brought to you by Dak Hate circa 2016


So transparent

 

[CowboyoWales]

My post has nothing to do with the cap which is fine here. I’m pointing to the thought that you don’t have to put pieces around a 40 million dollar guy.

Because they are going for it, especially taking the opportunity when Mahomes is still "cheap"..... we never had the opportunity due to the Dead Money problem compounded by restructuring contracts.

Of course it's about the CAP....that's why we've won no championship for 27 years.

 

[KeepinTime]

Wow, 2 TROLL threads in one day. That’s just a tiny bit above your average.

Who the hell is K&C Masterpiece? I thought they did BBQ sauce?

I put that s*#t on everything!! Oops, wrong sauce. I’ll show myself out.

 

[CowboyRoy]

This is such a dumb standard....people pick and chose when they want to use the W/L record as a QB stat. When it works in their favor its a QB stat. When its use to make Dak look bad its "teams win games not one player".

Its a silly argument. Fact is, build a solid team around him just like the Packers have and just like the Saints have and maybe he would make the playoffs.

As we can see from this terrible team.....Dak didn't inherit a good team or a good coaching staff...he succeed in spite of it.

No question that the Cowboys not only make the playoffs with Dak healthy all year, but they win 10 games no problem. With this defense, Dak and the offense probably set the all time NFL record for offense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Let's not get carried away now. I think Dak has evolved into a top tier QB but I am not going to say he can just drop back and sling it 50 times and we win consistently. We need the running game to balance things out so that we can dictate the tempo of the game, control the clock and force teams to bring a safety up to help out against the run. In order to do that you need a god runner and a good line. Maybe not best in the league but not hot garbage either. Same goes for running back. Leaving Zeke out of the equation we do need someone defenses have to pay attention to. If we don't have that then teams rush three drop 8 and take their chances that one of your sorry linemen will hold or that the 3 man rush will get there like it did against Dalton a half dozen times last Sunday. I do agree that the line rotation looks promising next year. I know Smith and Collins are coming off surgeries so we need to have a plan for if those didn't fix the problem.. especially in Tyron's case. Anything in the spine/neck area is tricky so somebody needs to be trained up to step in if he can't go. Even if it's Zack..

Yawn................you must be talking to someone else.

 

[KeepinTime]

The 1-2 playoff record proves it...along with the whorish endorsements. He’s dreamy

I don’t know, if Sleep Number wants to pay me 500k to endorse their overpriced beds I’m taking it.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well said! The elite money should be reserved for the few who actually are great. Too many people on here think next man up deserves highest salary.

The market actually drives it more than the QB’s status.

And how a QB like Stafford a few years ago and or even a Ryan a couple years ago were the top paid QB in a particular season. I’d even argue last year that Wilson being the top paid didn’t define him as the best in the league.

Those contracts don’t define Elite status. And they don’t remain top paid in the league long. It changes almost every year.

And why we shouldn’t be alarmed if Dak receives a contract this year that makes him one of the top paid This season as it’s more than likely to change next year. And again and again. Year after year.

And why these big contracts define more of a “ Franchise QB” than “ Elite QB” while they can be one in the same like we see with Mahomes currently.

But I assure you and others who I’m speaking to since you obviously get it is there will be contracts in the coming years which will surpass Mahomes while their talent level or Elite status won’t. That’s simply part of how the market drives these contracts from year to year and why these guys attempt to get all they can.

 

[Qcard]

What goal posts did I move?

My goal is to win Superbowls. I really don’t care how we get there but I see a trending protocol that paying Dak all duh monies asks me to ignore.

We were a watermelon kick from 0-4 this year.. Dude just isn’t a difference maker and paying him like he is hurts my football team.

How many years had Dak been QB1 for Dallas Cowboys?

Why are you lumping in last 6 years of Tony Romo’s playoff appearances into Dak first 4 years as a reflection of this teams problems...

It always comes back to Romo....

 

[OmerV]

I heard this on my lunch break.. Good stuff.




Some facts.

Green Bay has made the playoffs 8 of last 10 years. The only 2 they didn't make it were McCarthy's final 2 seasons..

New Orleans has made it the last 4 years and 6 out of the last 10.

Seattle has only missed the playoffs 1 time with Russell Wilson.

Tom Brady has made the playoffs 10 out of the last 10 years. It's been awhile until since Tampa has been to the playoffs

Mahomes has went 3 years in a row.

This is why you pay the elite guys and let the not so elites walk if they want elite money.

Drew Brees came into the NFL in 2001 and didn't make the playoffs the first time until 2004, and the second time until 2006.

Peyton Manning came into the NFL in 1998, and was one and done in the playoffs a couple of times until he finally won his first playoff game in 2004.

There are only so many truly elites that ever come around, so team's have to get the best they can and build with it. A team can't build anything playing musical chairs at QB.

 

[Hennessy_King]

He was a great bargain. Loved it.. I wish we could keep him for that price. It gave the team an advantage. I like my team having an advantage.

You should have blamed your idol Romo taking away that advantage for not knowing how to slide then we had to eat up 20m in dead $$

 

[Rockport]

You do realize that McClay wanted every QB before Dak dont you. We dont know that McClay isnt the one in Jerrys ear saying I wouldnt pay him like he is elite. Somebody is talking to Jerry otherwise Dak would of been paid.

No I don't realize that and you don't know that either.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Because they are going for it, especially taking the opportunity when Mahomes is still "cheap"..... we never had the opportunity due to the Dead Money problem compounded by restructuring contracts.

Of course it's about the CAP....that's why we've won no championship for 27 years.

And currently DAL have 27!MIL in cap space. LOL
The cap isnt going up. And everyone knows it. They just want an excuse to hold out hope.
DAL is out of money, couldn’t find much more if they tried, Tak wants his money and he wants all of it and now knowing he can just walk and get it all, and DAL isn’t remotely built to win now or even in the next 2 seasons.
There isn’t even a can for Dallas to kick down the road anymore.