Twitter: KC: Dak must reach playoffs consistently if he's paid premium QB money

[CATCH17]

We were much better than that Packers team in 2014. What happened? The guy in your picture cost us the game because he refused to drop down and extended for a touchdown.

IT's ridiculous to blame Dez.

If anything Romo should've checked it down to Beasley who was open.

A 50/50 ball to Dez with the season on the line just speaks to his greatness. Show some respect to our all time TD receptions leader.

 

[CATCH17]

Well, when you are "building a defense", that is the priority. So how then, can you say that we've tired and in the same breath, say "between priorities", how is that trying to build a Defense? BTW, this coaching staff has only been here a season so please, tell me what you've seen out of this staff that shows you they have had opportunity to build a defense.

BTW, we have had busts on Offense, as well but what does that have to do with the original question of, can this team build a defense?

In a league that doesn't want you playing defense either.

Not only do you have to draft well you have to hope you can play within these soft rules they make defenders play by.

Consistent defense almost seems impossible. Possession of the football was a pretty good recipe for us.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Matt Moore came in for the Chiefs last season over two games. 4 TDs and 0 INTs. He won a game and only just lost against the 13-3 Packers and Aaron Rodgers.

OK

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Sir, I am merely pointing out what a season without a viable starting QB looks like.

No you are not. You are really pointing out what the consequences are for poor cap management. I mean, maybe you don't want to admit that or maybe you haven't realized that but that's actually what you are doing here.

 

[Diehardblues]

Well, when you are "building a defense", that is the priority. So how then, can you say that we've tired and in the same breath, say "between priorities", how is that trying to build a Defense? BTW, this coaching staff has only been here a season so please, tell me what you've seen out of this staff that shows you they have had opportunity to build a defense.

BTW, we have had busts on Offense, as well but what does that have to do with the original question of, can this team build a defense?

But if you really want to build a defense wouldn’t you bring in a more defensive oriented HC. Possibly one who had been a DC. Why did we need an offensive minded HC if we are retaining our OC and his offense. That in itself represents more poor choices by our Football Idiots.

Based on the drafts bust on defense this era and the current coaching staff we have I have no faith we’ll build a good enough defense. Not only do we not have anyone with a good eye for defensive talent but I’m not sure their priorities will always be in the right place.

 

[khiladi]

And I don’t think any Dak critic argues that we can’t get an acceptable record with him as a game manager, with an all-pro line and top-flight RG. What we argue is pretty much any average QB could in those circumstances and it was in fact Dak’s limitations which was the weak link and wasted a SB roster, that we have to rebuild once again.

The reality is, it isn’t just about building the defense, but our OL health is now suspect.

 

[Denim Chicken]

No you are not. You are really pointing out what the consequences are for poor cap management. I mean, maybe you don't want to admit that or maybe you haven't realized that but that's actually what you are doing here.

ok. What's your plan at QB again?

 

[Diehardblues]

No you are not. You are really pointing out what the consequences are for poor cap management. I mean, maybe you don't want to admit that or maybe you haven't realized that but that's actually what you are doing here.

Perhaps we need to weigh what the cost is of over paying our QB to not having a Franchise QB.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yes, I do not trust this brain trust to select a QB because they lucked into the last two.

I don't know what they offered but the only number that matters is the guarantee. Aikman was signed to a 85.5M contract for 9 years in 99 with a 13M signing bonus. He had a guarantee of 13M. He was cut in 2000.

Cousins is the only player that has had a fully guaranteed contract, 84M for 3 years. If the Cowboys want to simplify this, offer him a 5 year 150M guaranteed contract but they won't do that and the owners are still pissed at MIN for giving Cousins that fully guaranteed contract.

Well, if it's happened twice, maybe it's not luck? But more to the point, what suggests to you that Dak is the answer? I.E., what makes you believe that this path is the right path? I mean, you speak as if you believe this but I'm curious, what have you seen that makes you believe this?

What is the point behind the Aikman numbers? I mean, at the time, it was far and away the largest contract signed in the NFL and it remained so for a few years but I don't understand the significance of the numbers.

Any team is stupid to give a fully guaranteed contract, such as that. Fully guaranteed contracts in the NFL, don't work. The entire league should be pissed off at the Minnesota Ownership. Zigi Wilf should have stuck to something he knows, like Soccer.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Perhaps we need to weigh what the cost is of over paying our QB to not having a Franchise QB.

Kirk Cousins is a good place to start.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I only sound like an idiot to you because you aren't paying attention to league trends or even the Romo era.

Like ABQ just said.. We've seen this movie before. We have the answers to the test. Pay attention this time when Jerry does the stupid thing and pays Dak please.

ABQ still has a little faith in the Jones's I think to do the right thing. After Zeke I do not. They are going to lock us down into mediocrity because Dak is a good face for their brand and keeping it relevant. That's all they care about.

Yeah, you are right Catch. I hope I don't get burned again........

 

[RonnieT24]

Fix the defense and put a decent line in front of him and Dak will be worth every penny he gets paid. I am not interested in any argument that saying goodbye to the franchise QB and then HOPING that the next guy is better is a strategy. It makes much more sense to ask the guy who can carry 500 pounds and then have the other guys who can carry 200 pounds to carry their 200 pounds than it does to ask the guy who can carry 500 pounds to carry 1000 pounds because the other guys are slackers. Dak is good enough to lead this team to the promised land.. How do I know that? Simple.. I can name a half a dozen QBs who have gotten to and/or won the Super Bowl while not playing as well as Dak was playing the last time we saw him. There is no substantive way to argue against this point.. Brady in 2018, Foles in 2017, Manning in 2015 are just the most recent examples of QBs who have hoisted the hardware while playing at an inferior level to Dak. Yet they all won because their teams were really good around them. Mahomes stunk up the joint for three quarters in the Super Bowl last year.. The only reason the Chiefs were even still in the game was because Shanahan insisted on propping up Garrapolo and letting him throw the game away when they were averaging 6 yards per carry on the ground. He apparently learned nothing from the collapse with the Falcons.. Lord knows they've never recovered from it either..

 

[Diehardblues]

Well, if it's happened twice, maybe it's not luck? But more to the point, what suggests to you that Dak is the answer? I.E., what makes you believe that this path is the right path? I mean, you speak as if you believe this but I'm curious, what have you seen that makes you believe this?

What is the point behind the Aikman numbers? I mean, at the time, it was far and away the largest contract signed in the NFL and it remained so for a few years but I don't understand the significance of the numbers.

Any team is stupid to give a fully guaranteed contract, such as that. Fully guaranteed contracts in the NFL, don't work. The entire league should be pissed off at the Minnesota Ownership. Zigi Wilf should have stuck to something he knows, like Soccer.

The answer for what?

The answer for a relative and interesting team.
The answer for a playoff contender .
The answer for division title champ.
The answer for a team on the brink of a championship appearance.

These are all answers he’s already met. All without a top 10 caliber defense while leading a top offense.

Why wouldn’t you invest in a QB as such ?

 

[phildadon86]

IT's ridiculous to blame Dez.

If anything Romo should've checked it down to Beasley who was open.

A 50/50 ball to Dez with the season on the line just speaks to his greatness. Show some respect to our all time TD receptions leader.

LOL. Respect?

Same guy who said "see you twice a year" on his way out?

I loved Dez. I have countless items signed by him.

I also have Zeke and Dak items signed. I respect the team.

You blame Dak for Dez being gone. Ive said it before and you prove it every time you speak.

Dallas wasnt better than Seattle the season you speak of.

Seattle was ranked 6th in team offense in 2018. Dallas 22nd
Rushing Offense Seattle was 1 Dallas was 10th
Special Teams we were dead last at 32nd Seattle was 22nd
Kicking and Punting Seattle was 1st Dallas was 28th
Scoring offense we were 6th Seattle was 11th (not a big gap there)


If you're going to make a claim. At least back it up.

 

[Diehardblues]

Kirk Cousins is a good place to start.

Vikings looked like last year they were on the cusp of breaking thru. A bad year this year. Mostly about their defense.

Shoot, we could say same thing about Watson . After paying him they tanked this year. Is that all about over paying him?

Unfortunately over paying QB’s is part of the game. You’ve got to figure it out cause it’s even tougher without a Franchise QB.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You are giving him too much over the 1st 4 years. He made 4.9m total over the 1st 4 years for 1.2m a season. Lol Didnt make 2m a season until his last year of his rookie deal.

Even more of a bargain.

 

[CowboyRoy]

You need to read my signature, which has been visible by at least 6 months.

Unfortunately, there's the polarized view (which your message seems to agree with and confirms) that this is a love/hate Dak situation.

This is not about individuals. it's about the Cowboys and how we break the cycle of continuing the problems of relying on shiny pieces like Romo/Dak whilst crippling our ability to build a team as we're forced to restructure bad contracts.

LOL............Only a Dak hating troll could come up with something so dumb as to why we shouldnt resign our top 7 franchise QB in his prime.

So the reason we cant build a team is because of Romo and Dak?

Dak got paid around 5 million total his first 4 years. How come we couldnt built a great team?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Im not sure why you don’t see the bust and poor decisions we’ve made in draft on defense as not trying to build a defense?

Several 1st and 2nd round selections which if had been solid picks probably have been the difference in building a top 10 caliber squad. Could have arguably been enough with our offense to put us over the top.

In this new staff their first draft didn’t make defense the priority initially with a luxury pick this defense couldn’t afford. More flash on offense while defense regresses.

The powers that be with Daddy and Son are still in place. The same ones who have thwarted every coaching staff under their watch. The fact you don’t believe they’re Idiots is a sharp divide between our two opinions.

It is not that I don't see the or acknowledge busts. I actually see them on both sides of the ball but that's not really the point, nor is it the pertinent fact. The point is that "This Coaching Staff" has not shown us what it can or can't do at all, as yet, in terms of the Defense. You cant say that they have failed when they haven't even been given the chance.

In their first draft, they didn't get the chance to make it a priority. It's well documented how the first pick went down. Jerry told the team that the first pick was his and with it, he took a WR. That's not on the coaching staff, nor does it speak to their capabilities. That point of view is just wrong.

I agree about your "powers that be" statement. But that is different then the coaching staff, surely you can see that.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Vikings looked like last year they were on the cusp of breaking thru. A bad year this year. Mostly about their defense.

Shoot, we could say same thing about Watson . After paying him they tanked this year. Is that all about over paying him?

Unfortunately over paying QB’s is part of the game. You’ve got to figure it out cause it’s even tougher without a Franchise QB.

It’s part of the game for some teams. Not all.
And just chalking up the QB situation to overpaying is simply not an answer. It’s an excuse. Which is why Keenum has still done as much as Cousins in MIN. It’s just a fact.
You pay a QB $145 Million, I want a SB with a team ready to win. I can do what Cousins has done with Keenums all day for chump change.
It’s been a disaster in MIN.

Dalton and Dak numbers are the same. 1st 4 years. Last 13 games. It’s the same. It just is. Sorry, they are what they are.

I will admit, it’s a real conundrum getting an “elite QB” but teams if they are diligent can get one and it’s not some impossible mountain to climb.

Add the current state of this utter fustercluck of a roster and it’s not a good look.

 

[RonnieT24]

LOL............Only a Dak hating troll could come up with something so dumb as to why we shouldnt resign our top 7 franchise QB in his prime.

So the reason we cant build a team is because of Romo and Dak?

Dak got paid around 5 million total his first 4 years. How come we couldnt built a great team?

This is the operative question isn't it. The team pissed away its chance to build a solid every year contender when Dak was making peanuts and now that the bill has come due it's his fault if they don't build a contender? GTFOH! Dak did his part.. It's time for the team to do theirs. And that starts with paying the man.. Yes he absolutely has to help them construct the contract to help with the cap but he should be under no obligation to take less money to make up for their stupidity with regard to building a team. The good news is he doesn't have to. He just has to instruct his agent to construct the contract the right way..