Moehrig or Bolton

[Future]

Bolton, but I wouldn't move up for either of them.

 

[phildadon86]

Bolton


Better Player


Plus id rather X. Woods for another season than Clear-Eye Doo Doo

I would have cut woods after his effort comment. I dont want anyone that thinks that way near this team. If you dont think you need to give 100 percent every play (obviously its not possible but keep your mouth shut about it) then you dont belong in a sport paying you the way it does. I know if I was making close to even the vet minimum the one thing that would never be questioned is my effort.

 

[baltcowboy]

I disagree, about being able to finding another Bolton. He has Sean Lee type instincts, which many linebackers do not possess.

If he is a shorter Sean Lee he would go in the 20s. He reminds me of Hitchens.

 

[Cowboyny]

If he is a shorter Sean Lee he would go in the 20s. He reminds me of Hitchens.

He has a chance to become a top 25 pick, many believe at this time, probably right after that range.

 

[baltcowboy]

He has a chance to become a top 25 pick, many believe at this time, probably right after that range.

Yeah like Patrick Queen for the Ravens.

 

[Cowboyny]

Yeah like Patrick Queen for the Ravens.

Yes, in that same range.

 

[Sydla]

There are definitely things to like about Bolton but if you get nauseated at the way Jaylon doesn’t take on blocks and runs around blocks (taking him out of the play) you shouldn’t expect that to be resolved with Bolton. Watch his game cutups rather than his highlights.

I've read the same. He has better instincts it appears but he tries to use his athleticism much like Smith did to get around people.

I'd take Moehrig.

 

[Cowboyny]

I've read the same. He has better instincts it appears but he tries to use his athleticism much like Smith did to get around people.

I'd take Moehrig.

You could make that same argument about all the modern linebackers, the majority run around not take on blockers.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You could make that same argument about all the modern linebackers, the majority run around not take on blockers.

Not exactly, but even if somewhat true guys with prototypical size ~6’-2-3” 245-255 lbs can physically take on blocks if need be. For Bolton, at his size it’s not an option.

 

[Cowboyny]

Not exactly, but even if somewhat true guys with prototypical size ~6’-2-3” 245-255 lbs can physically take on blocks if need be. For Bolton, at his size it’s not an option.

Tell that to Lve, who does possess elite traits for the position and still struggles badly taking on blockers.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Tell that to Lve, who does possess elite traits for the position and still struggles badly taking on blockers.

Lol?

Okay, so LVE establishes the norm for all linebackers?

 

[Cowboyny]

Lol?

Okay, so LVE establishes the norm for all linebackers?

Just saying not every linebacker with elite size/length are good at taking on blockers.

 

[jterrell]

Moehrig easily for me.

Bolton is not better than Jaylon or LVE right now but could be very soon.
He is definitely quicker than Jaylon laterally by a lot and far more instinctive than LVE.
But he lacks a bit of the size/speed combo of either guy.
He was only a 3 star HS recruit largely because of his 40 time. He is from Frisco, TX BTW so very well known to Cowboys personnel.

He likely won't dazzle there at whatever version of combine/pro day happens.
Bolton is a great off the field guy and should be a really good LB but he will struggle in some speed/size match ups in coverage.
You can't ask him to cover 6'5": TEs because he's 6' maximum.
And as a projected 4.7 40 guy you don't want him running with WRs or 4.5 TEs.

He reminds me a lot of Patrick Queen of the Ravens who looked so good for LSU than struggled in a more physical and fast NFL.

Moehrig is a better Cover 1/3 FS than we possess today by quite a lot and by a million miles if you remove XWoods the FA.
I think he'd help set this defensive back end.
He is almost ideally suited for Cover1/3.
He can man cover with great hips for a FS and has enough size at 6'2" and 208 to handle bigger WRs.
Seven interceptions and 21 passes defended in three years at TCU while wearing number 7 and leading that defense.

If I were Dan Quinn I'd be pounding the table for this guy at pick 42 as the Earl Thomas of my defense.
Fit is absolutely perfect.

 

[Mr_437]

I go with Moehrig because Dallas doesn't have any Safeties while they do have high resource players already at LB.

 

[DoctorChicken]

Moehrig. We’ve needed a good safety for years.

 

[cowboyec]

like'm both.
but forced to choose i'm taking moehrig.
for too long that "poor ol' safety position" has gotten the shaft.

 

[Malhavoc]

I would say Moehrig because I think he’s the perfect fit for this defense. And to get him we probably need to move up. I’ve seen some rankings that have him in the middle of the 1st round. ESPN in their initial rankings have him I believe in the top 15.

 

[Beaker42]

Let's assume Cowboy Front Office signs bridge, 1 yr types at each position in fa. The likes of Barmore/Nixon are already off the board. Cowboys have a chance to move up in the 2nd rd in which both Moehrig/Bolton are still available, which name would you write on the card?

-The centerfield, single-high free safety is needed in Quinn's cover 3 scheme. The drop-off could be great after him at the position. Not the best tackler, nor excels in man coverage.

-Bolton fills the Mike Linebacker need and instantly improves our run defense day 1. He has size/length limitations and is probably physically maxed out.

Bolton hands down.

 

[Cowboyny]

I would say Moehrig because I think he’s the perfect fit for this defense. And to get him we probably need to move up. I’ve seen some rankings that have him in the middle of the 1st round. ESPN in their initial rankings have him I believe in the top 15.

In this scenario, we find a trading partner near the top of rd 2 and give up our 3rd comp to get there. It's very possible both players could hear their names called in rd 1.

 

[Beaker42]

I would also lean Moehrig, but Bolton's timed speed isn't that important to me. I believe Sean Lee ran 4.7, but he played so fast due to his high level instincts. Always made it to a spot quicker then his blocking assignment.

Bolton > Moehrig. We can go FS is the 3rd.