Rumor: Dallas Cowboys To Reportedly Offer Dak Prescott Same 5-Year $175 Million Deal He Turned Down

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Thank you but the question still stands. How does this help the team? Yes, they can spread things out over 5 years, perhaps, but they would be forced to take on a new contract/cost for a new QB that fifth year. Basically pay dead cap against a player who is gone at a premium salary cost and take on more cost against the cap to bring in another QB. How does this help the cap?
Super bowl contention generally comes in windows. If we sign Dak to big money, we have a 4-5 year window. Now, in this window, we need to get a D. W/o building the D, nothing we do is going to matter. Giving Dak a huge deal for 4 years severely lessens what we can do.

You're thinking past this deal. That's not relevant at this point.
 

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What's the benefit of tagging him? He's not going to get a significant deal anywhere until he passes a physical - which won't be until after the initial free agency period or the draft. By the time he passes, teams will have decided their likely opening day starters. Even if gets an offer, it will be 1 year low value. Easy to match if you want.

What if he doesnt pass a physical? Even with the best treatment in the world, you never know until the time comes. And even if he passes he may never be the same OR will still need a season or so to get back to close to 100% (people forget about the impact of the length of time not being able to fully train has).

With tagging, we could be spending $35m on someones rehab year. Even if you want Dak back, its likely he could be signed for low cost for the upcoming season, so why waste money?
 

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In my previous post, I meant to say that Dak will likely be tagged again, then be signed to a new deal before the July deadline. In other words, I think they'll get him to sign a new deal before he's due to sign the tag in July. Brace yourselves for another long, testy round of negotiations. I'm preparing myself for a long fiasco, with lots of frustrated fans for the next five months. o_O
 
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Assuming this is accurate - I always take online rumors with a grain of salt … considering the Wentz and Goff contracts don't appear to be working out so well, Dak might think about grabbing onto this while he can. Or maybe the team would add a bit to that 5th year considering the price tag will likely be even higher 5 years from now than it would have been 5 years from last year.
 

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I don't think so, I think Cowboys would like to avoid the 37 mill hit right off the bat. I do think Franchise tag is an option but I think it is an option both sides would like to avoid.
Yeah, I don't agree..it's 100% the plan
 

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So, they need to tag him after this being the longest drawn out contract negotiation in the history of the NFL?

What would tagging him do, except for one thing, trading him? Tagging a player a second time can get dicey and this team needs stability because of they use that tag and do not come to a long term deal, this is his last year as a Cowboy and every coach and player on that team will know it.

They need more time to negotiate? Patently absurd, they've been doing that for two years.

Tag him to wait and see about him passing the physical? Might make sense and might piss him off enough to jack the price up. He's the first star I can recall getting injured like that in a tag year, the single most critical drawback to a tag form the agent/player's perspective.

The real question is where is Prescott's head at about the guarantee and term of the offer? If he was stuck on a 4 year last time, is that now a 3 year and he's counting the tag year as a year?

The minute the gate opens, other teams can negotiate with their QB's like Allen and Jackson. Think they'll want less than Watson got? The Cowboys tag him and try and work out a deal, the clock is running and France has already shown he is responsive to positive actions for his player. He proved that when Prescott started out 3-0 in 2019.

So you think a deal is going to be done before free agency starts? This is ridiculously optimistic. There is a very small chance that happens. When that doesn't happen, dak will be tagged bc there is no way he's walking free.
 

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Whether it's a pre-set plan or not, both sides have already proven they're extremely adamant about what they want.

I'm suspicious that they'll, again, stretch out their bargaining to a point where they'll finally agree out of desperation.

I believe they'll repeat last yea's act. The FO will tag Dak again and they'll sign a new deal before the July deadline.
 
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So you think a deal is going to be done before free agency starts? This is ridiculously optimistic. There is a very small chance that happens. When that doesn't happen, dak will be tagged bc there is no way he's walking free.
Could be and thank you, I have never been called ridiculously optimistic in my life.

If they hadn't been negotiating for so long, I wouldn.t feel that way but I think both sides are bent toward getting this done and moving on.

I could be wrong, would be the first time but it could happen.

And JBS, part of this is wishful thinking on my part because I am so tired of dealing with this same subject. I want to get back to arguing about Prescott being a decent QB, not a rich one.
 

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Could be and thank you, I have never been called ridiculously optimistic in my life.

If they hadn't been negotiating for so long, I wouldn.t feel that way but I think both sides are bent toward getting this done and moving on.

I could be wrong, would be the first time but it could happen.

And JBS, part of this is wishful thinking on my part because I am so tired of dealing with this same subject. I want to get back to arguing about Prescott being a decent QB, not a rich one.

I think a contract will get done. I don't think it gets done before the franchise tag is placed. But im with you, I'm tired of this too. I hope you are right. I just don't see it happening.
 

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Yeah, I don't agree..it's 100% the plan
Why is it 100% of the plan? Since the deadline to tag players isn't all that far away (sometime in March I think) I think there is at least a reasonable chance the franchise tag will be applied before a long term contract is agreed to, but why would either side be completely opposed to listening to the other side and seeing if they can working out a deal before? After all, it's not like they are starting from scratch. They've been talking a long time.
 

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We have about a 2-3 year opportunity here with or without Dak.

we still need defensive pieces which I believe we can with or without Dak. I think it needs to be done through the draft anyhow with maybe the exception of ( Leonard Williams! Wishful thinking here)

honestly the cowboys have put a fair deal on the table but if they have to shave a year off give him what he wants because you aren’t signing him again unless a SB is on his resume
The time is now!
 

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Why is it 100% of the plan? Since the deadline to tag players isn't all that far away (sometime in March I think) I think there is at least a reasonable chance the franchise tag will be applied before a long term contract is agreed to, but why would either side be completely opposed to listening to the other side and seeing if they can working out a deal before? After all, it's not like they are starting from scratch. They've been talking a long time.

I mean let's just think logically here..the deadline to slap the tag is basically in one month..the cap for 2021 hasn't even been set yet..there have been no negotiations between the two sides recently..I'm not sure how anyone can think the tag won't be applied..it's almost a lock
 

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We have about a 2-3 year opportunity here with or without Dak.

we still need defensive pieces which I believe we can with or without Dak. I think it needs to be done through the draft anyhow with maybe the exception of ( Leonard Williams! Wishful thinking here)

honestly the cowboys have put a fair deal on the table but if they have to shave a year off give him what he wants because you aren’t signing him again unless a SB is on his resume
The time is now!
I never understand the windows fans put on things. There was supposed to be a window that was ending with Romo and Witten, but a window did not close. The team kept it open with Dak, Zeke and others. Why is there now no chance of keeping the window open with other drafts and acquisitions? It's not as if whatever roster is in place to start the 2021 season is written in stone for the next 2-3 years.
 

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I mean let's just think logically here..the deadline to slap the tag is basically in one month..the cap for 2021 hasn't even been set yet..there have been no negotiations between the two sides recently..I'm not sure how anyone can think the tag won't be applied..it's almost a lock
Again, I said I believe there is a reasonable chance the tag gets applied because the deadline for it is so close, so that part of your response doesn't oppose what I said. But, again, this isn't a brand new negotiation, and I'm sure both sides have a pretty solid grasp of what the other wants, so if one side or the other was willing to come back with a compromise why would they plan 100% on waiting for the franchise tag to hit?

That said, the point about not being sure what the cap amount will be does make an earlier deal less likely - or at least it would seem. The teams and owners aren't living in a vacuum without any idea where things are headed. There is no doubt they are communicating with the NFL executives. After all, those executives work for the NFL owners.
 

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I mean let's just think logically here..the deadline to slap the tag is basically in one month..the cap for 2021 hasn't even been set yet..there have been no negotiations between the two sides recently..I'm not sure how anyone can think the tag won't be applied..it's almost a lock

I don't know that anybody is arguing that Dak will not be tagged. To me, the real question is what Tag will be applied? Will it be Exclusive or None Exclusive?
 

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I don't know that anybody is arguing that Dak will not be tagged. To me, the real question is what Tag will be applied? Will it be Exclusive or None Exclusive?

Well, that's exactly what they're arguing. That he won't be tagged
 

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I don't know that anybody is arguing that Dak will not be tagged. To me, the real question is what Tag will be applied? Will it be Exclusive or None Exclusive?

To answer your question, Dallas isn't going to slap a non exclusive tag on dak. It will do much more harm than good
 

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Well, that's exactly what they're arguing. That he won't be tagged

I don't know who, specifically is arguing what. I'm just saying that most fans that I've seen discuss this aren't arguing that point. In fact, that was never the argument surrounding Dak. Now, if you've found the odd poster here or there that is, that's fine but it's not the fan bases' position by any stretch.
 

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To answer your question, Dallas isn't going to slap a non exclusive tag on dak. It will do much more harm than good

I don't see how. IMO, it would solve a great many problems. There is no downside to that strategy IMO.
 
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