Barry Talks About Similarities/Differences To Emmitt

[Hawkeye0202]

Emmitt was perfect for the Cowboys in the 90’s. His ability to get positive yards and put games away just ground down our opponents

if Barry had been here instead, we still win those Super Bowls and his career would probably have been longer and his profile would have been even more elevated than it is. He would have provided more trouble for opponents than Emmitt imo.

Hate to say it but give me Sanders

100% ,,,,, don't apologize (lol)

Give me Barry all day.....

 

[Hawkeye0202]

walter payton
tony dorsett
eric dickerson
emmitt smith

the 4 greatest running backs of my fandom...in chronological order.

Hmmmm .......my five ( Yes, Emmitt would be 6th )

Walter Payton.....GOAT
Eric Dickerson.....prettiest runner ( always looked as if he was gliding )
Earl Campbell.....under-appreciated by history
Barry Sander.......the 2-yard loss vs 10 yard gain thing never bothered me. His total yards at the end of the game is what counts.
Tony Dorsett........one word ........speed

 

[RonnieT24]

Classic misinformation/half-truth from you.

Neither one of those guys made the Pro Bowl until Sanders came onboard.

Which of the Cowboys linemen made the Pro Bowl before Emmitt came to Dallas? How many of Emmitt's linemen were first round picks? (Hint: Barry had four.. Emmitt had the same number as Barry's Super bowl rings..)

 

[RonnieT24]

Hmmmm .......my five ( Yes, Emmitt would be 6th )

Walter Payton.....GOAT
Eric Dickerson.....prettiest runner ( always looked as if he was gliding )
Earl Campbell.....under-appreciated by history
Barry Sander.......the 2-yard loss vs 10 yard gain thing never bothered me. His total yards at the end of the game is what counts.
Tony Dorsett........one word ........speed

Not including OJ and Jim Brown betrays your youth. Those two guys were monsters. As for Barry's negative gains thing? It might not have bothered you but I guarantee you it bothered his coaches.. his QBs and his offensive linemen. His style was fun to watch but it was not conducive to winning football. 2nd and 6 will always be better than 2nd and 13. NFL films estimated that Barry lost over 3000 yards during his career. That's 300 a season for his 10 year career.. over 20 yards a game.. That's an average of nearly seven 2nd and 13s a game. Or four 2nd and 15s if you prefer! How many 2nd and 15s can an offense recover from in a game? And again.. that was his AVERAGE. Meaning he had games where he had more than that. Can you imagine your starting running back losing 25-30+ yards in a game? Yes he hit some home runs.. but not enough to make up for all the losses. I loved watching Barry run.. but if I'm starting a team I take Emmitt over him all day every day. Emmitt was far and away the superior football player..

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Which of the Cowboys linemen made the Pro Bowl before Emmitt came to Dallas? How many of Emmitt's linemen were first round picks? (Hint: Barry had four.. Emmitt had the same number as Barry's Super bowl rings..)

Keep moving the goalposts Ronald.

What’s next? Which lineman had better nights rest before gameday.

Any new updates from Dak’s doctor on the radio?

Lol, windbag.

 

[RonnieT24]

Keep moving the goalposts Ronald.

What’s next? Which lineman had better nights rest before gameday.

Any new updates from Dak’s doctor on the radio?

Lol, windbag.

You're the one who brought up Barry's linemen not getting into the pro bowl before he showed up. I just asked you to point the same finger at Emmitt's linemen. Does it bother you to have your own bogus standard blow up in your face?

 

[Kwyn]

Hmmmm .......my five ( Yes, Emmitt would be 6th )

Walter Payton.....GOAT
Eric Dickerson.....prettiest runner ( always looked as if he was gliding )
Earl Campbell.....under-appreciated by history
Barry Sander.......the 2-yard loss vs 10 yard gain thing never bothered me. His total yards at the end of the game is what counts.
Tony Dorsett........one word ........speed

I’m sorry guys, but putting TD in the top five is the fan talking

How do so many of you not even have Jim Brown on your lists? He’s the GOAT

I feel pretty strongly about my top three. The rest could move around a bit and sure, TD could come into he top ten on some peoples lists but no way is he top five

1. Brown
2. Payton
3. Sanders
4. Emmitt
5. Sayers
6. LT
7. Bo
8. Dickerson
9. Earl
10. OJ

 

[CWR]

Most of them, at least outside of the Dallas area, would say Barry was better.

Barry was scarier, more of a threat to embarrass you, or take it to the house. Over the course of a game, and to keep the chains moving Emmitt was the best.

 

[CWR]

I’m sorry guys, but putting TD in the top five is the fan talking

How do so many of you not even have Jim Brown on your lists? He’s the GOAT

I feel pretty strongly about my top three. The rest could move around a bit and sure, TD could come into he top ten on some peoples lists but no way is he top five

1. Brown
2. Payton
3. Sanders
4. Emmitt
5. Sayers
6. LT
7. Bo
8. Dickerson
9. Earl
10. OJ

Jim Brown was awesome, and he didn't have 16 games to compile stats.

 

[CWR]

Growing up in Florida I got to watch Emmitt play for the Gators. The Gators back then were average to poor. Emmitt was clearly talented with scrubs around him.

While Dallas had a great OL, Emmitt was the catalyst for the entire team. He elevated the triplets. Give me 22 over Barry any Sunday, Thursday, and occasional Saturday.

That brings up another good point. Everyone talks about his oline, but Emmitt crushed it at every single stop, breaking records all the way back to high-school.

 

[Thomas82]

Jim Brown was awesome, and he didn't have 16 games to compile stats.

Yeah, when he went into the NFL they were playing 12 games a season, and by his last year they played 14.

 

[Thomas82]

That brings up another good point. Everyone talks about his oline, but Emmitt crushed it at every single stop, breaking records all the way back to high-school.

Like I said in a previous post, he was his state's all-time leading rusher in high school, his school's all-time leading rusher in college, and now the NFL's all-time leading rusher......the only RB in the history of football to pull it off.

 

[Kwyn]

Jim Brown was awesome, and he didn't have 16 games to compile stats.

Brown led the league in yards eight times and rushing TD’s five times. That equaled the totals of Barry, Emmitt and Walter combined in both categories

Pure domination of his era

He also never missed a game

 

[CWR]

Like I said in a previous post, he was his state's all-time leading rusher in high school, his school's all-time leading rusher in college, and now the NFL's all-time leading rusher......the only RB in the history of football to pull it off.

Yes sir absolutely, the dominant oline excuse doesn't translate that far. Emmitt had elite intangibles. He excelled at the very things draftniks struggle to score, heart, vision, patience, feel for the game, ect... Because he didn't have elite speed, or power he will always be under rated.

 

[Vanilla2]

Didn’t Barry get taken off the field in short yardage situations?

 

[JoeKing]

walter payton
tony dorsett
eric dickerson
emmitt smith

the 4 greatest running backs of my fandom...in chronological order.

I would agree with that list in no particular order.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

You're the one who brought up Barry's linemen not getting into the pro bowl before he showed up. I just asked you to point the same finger at Emmitt's linemen. Does it bother you to have your own bogus standard blow up in your face?

You blathering windbag...

My post was in response to third post of this thread where it was claimed Sanders supposedly benefitted from having Pro Bowlers in place (Lomas Brown and Kevin Glover) already when he came onboard. That is false.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I’m sorry guys, but putting TD in the top five is the fan talking

How do so many of you not even have Jim Brown on your lists? He’s the GOAT

I feel pretty strongly about my top three. The rest could move around a bit and sure, TD could come into he top ten on some peoples lists but no way is he top five

1. Brown
2. Payton
3. Sanders
4. Emmitt
5. Sayers
6. LT
7. Bo
8. Dickerson
9. Earl
10. OJ

Just my take here but Brown would make my top 10, not top 5, OJ would be 7th on my list behind Emmitt at 6th, LT 8th followed by Sayers and BO.

Brown......I'm sorry, but I'm not sure he GOAT in today's defenses.

Emmitt played on a team with FOUR ( Aikman, Irving, Haley and Allen ) HOFer, Sanders did not. Many have said, ( I agree ) he, not Emmitt, would have the most rushing yards all-time had not retired early. Emmitt made no secret he wanted to not catch Payton but put the record out of reach. In other words, he spent his last 3-4 years padding stats.

BO and Sayers didn't play long enough but probably easily makes top with if they had a full career.

Dorsett and OJ could be a toss-up I suppose.......maybe replace Campbell with OJ in my top 5.

 

[Kwyn]

Just my take here but Brown would make my top 10, not top 5, OJ would be 7th on my list behind Emmitt at 6th, LT 8th followed by Sayers and BO.

Madness!

 

[Shake_Tiller]

Jim Brown was the most dominant in his era. I'm really not sure how anyone can argue otherwise. And I think the only fair assessment of players, era to era, must include normalization.

Things were very different when players had run of the mill part-time jobs in the off-season. Read Tim Cowlishaw reminiscing how he and Drew Pearson worked together in a Northpark Mall sporting goods store, while Harvey Martin worked at a shoe store.

Add to that normal human evolution, diet, training. etc. We must assume that a Jim Brown born 20-30 years later would have benefited.

Long before there was an Internet, I recall Tom Landry being asked what contemporary RB would best fit his system. I believe he named Jim Taylor, the great Packers back. But he said: "If I had Jim Brown, I'd change my system."

I would take Emmitt over Barry Sanders. The object of a football game is to win, and players should be judged on their contribution to that goal. Emmitt was the kind of back with which you win. He hit enough home runs to make a defense account for that ability. He made the tough yards. He minimized negative plays. He blocked. He was durable and had longevity.

Barry Sanders was more apt to hit the home run. I don't think he did anything else as well as Emmitt did.