News: Latest on Dak’s Injury

[csirl]

Will Dak want to start the season? Sounds like a strange question, but think about it from a agents or financial perspective. What will his agent recommend?

We'll assume he gets tagged - so 37m guaranteed.

As I mentioned earlier, any athlete who has been out with a serious injury for months is very unlikely to hit the ground running (excuse the pun). First few games back will likely be sub par.

MM has used his free pass in 2020. He's now under pressure to deliver. If Dak starts the season slowly he WILL be pulled after 2-3 games. MM cant afford another mediocre season or he's out of a job. Any hope of a big contract for Dak will be gone.

Alternatively, it makes sense for Dak to go on IR and resume training midseason. Gives him extra recovery time and half a season of practice and reps, and possibly some gametime in meaningless late season games before he hits frew agency again. Allows him to hit FA fully fit, without the aches and pains of a full season.

Look at this financially. Last year it was reported Dak was seeking 100m guaranteed. He got 31 last season for part of a season. Another 37 this season for simply rehabbing. So 68m without having to do much or the reputation risk of a slow return from injury. Chances are some team will give him at least a 2-3 year deal with 32+ guaranteed. May not be the headline mega deal, but achieves the same aim (or more) without the risk and wear and tear of playing !!! And over a shorter period. No brainer.

 

[USArmyVet]

https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-sign-tag-dak-prescott-have-no-medical-concerns-ankle-surgeries

Sources say Prescott underwent a second -- and previously unreported -- procedure on the ankle about two months later to strengthen his deltoid ligament, clean out the ankle and make it more structurally sound. That procedure wasn't directly related to the October surgery; rather, doctors then spotted issues related to past injuries to the same ankle, and so once the risk of infection was eliminated, they went back in to clean up the rest.

After the second surgery in early December, Prescott had to take about a week off from rehab to let the wound heal, but it improved the stability and integrity of the ankle and should accelerate his overall recovery, per sources. He's now walking without issue, doing weight-bearing exercises and is expected to be ready for action long before the 2021 season begins.

That's one reason there are no medical concerns, sources say, for the Cowboys with regard to offering Prescott a nine-figure contract that would put him among the NFL's highest-paid players. If anything, Prescott is considered a little ahead of schedule in what was initially pegged as a four- to six-month recovery.

So a broken ankle that required surgery and then another surgery unrelated to the broken ankle but rather earlier injuries isn't a concern?

Well, forgive me if I do not want to use a ladder to climb up on a roof that had multiple repairs to it.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Will Dak want to start the season? Sounds like a strange question, but think about it from a agents or financial perspective. What will his agent recommend?

We'll assume he gets tagged - so 37m guaranteed.

As I mentioned earlier, any athlete who has been out with a serious injury for months is very unlikely to hit the ground running (excuse the pun). First few games back will likely be sub par.

MM has used his free pass in 2020. He's now under pressure to deliver. If Dak starts the season slowly he WILL be pulled after 2-3 games. MM cant afford another mediocre season or he's out of a job. Any hope of a big contract for Dak will be gone.

Alternatively, it makes sense for Dak to go on IR and resume training midseason. Gives him extra recovery time and half a season of practice and reps, and possibly some gametime in meaningless late season games before he hits frew agency again. Allows him to hit FA fully fit, without the aches and pains of a full season.

Look at this financially. Last year it was reported Dak was seeking 100m guaranteed. He got 31 last season for part of a season. Another 37 this season for simply rehabbing. So 68m without having to do much or the reputation risk of a slow return from injury. Chances are some team will give him at least a 2-3 year deal with 32+ guaranteed. May not be the headline mega deal, but achieves the same aim (or more) without the risk and wear and tear of playing !!! And over a shorter period. No brainer.

37 million for a gimp player?
Might as well sign him to a multi-year deal at this rate....Count your blessing Dak that GOOFBALL Jerry is the GM!

 

[TwoCentPlain]

As a physician, none of this is concerning at all

As a physician, how common is deltoid ligament surgery? Uncommon according to the internet (yeah I know it is the internet) and used for grade 3 injuries. Would you be concerned if the ligament was torn and they had to pull tissue from another ligament? As a physician, what is the typical recovery time to be able to play football from deltoid ligament surgery? As a physician, is surgery usually a last resort for deltoid surgery and means that they gave it two months to heal and it did not? Or does it mean the deltoid ligament was torn and they first had to wait for the broken bone to heal before they could deal with the ligament? I have no idea but I see cause for concern.

I am an engineer and not a doctor but I definitely see some cause from concern just reading a little on deltoid ligament surgery.

And why the two month delay and sunshine-pumping from unnamed ‘sources’ who likely are not even doctors?

 

[817Gill]

I hope someone saves this thread and rehashes it once Dak’s back healthy. Some of y’all are so weird lol. Who reads this and thinks, “yeah this guys done.” Reading comprehension is not a strength on CZ.

Shoutout to the actual doctor for inserting some sense into this thread.

 

[Playmaker247]

So a broken ankle that required surgery and then another surgery unrelated to the broken ankle but rather earlier injuries isn't a concern?

Well, forgive me if I do not want to use a ladder to climb up on a roof that had multiple repairs to it.

It’s professional sports. Players have surgery, they get healthy, and we move on. He broke his ankle, it’s not uncommon. Players come back from it literally all the time

 

[dallasdave]

I heard he's getting a foot/ankle transplant from an East German women's swim team member.

You nailed it, great story

 

[lukin2006]

Until I hear from Dr. Jerry then nothing is true.

 

[5Stars]

• He will never be the same player again. He is going to be hesitant and complacent on the field. That broke ankle had issues way before his injury. Good luck with all that! I hope JJ understands the risk he is taking if they sign him. As for me, nope. Not with a broken wheel because you need that weight barring bone strong, and the crack is already in the making, just a matter of time.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Based on past experiences with the Cowboys medical PR; this means his ankle doesn’t move anymore, it stays entirely straight at all times.

You realize that the MD degree you got in Cracker Jacks is worthless don't you. That MD degree really doesn't mean you can now make medical decisions especially on something you've never seen first hand.
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[gjkoeppen]

I'm not a doctor, but considering the severity of his injury, it sounds like they're playing down the the serious nature of the whole thing.
But I hope he's really doing as well as they say.

I'll go with what the orthopedic surgeons that actually did the surgery and what they've seen since the surgeries and not what people sitting on their couches think. If you think about it that would make no sense to do that giving Prescott and his agent additional ammo in negotiating where as if it was as you think it would be a bigger bargaining tool for the Cowboys in negotiating a contract because according to you Prescott is not as far along as what they say he is. Also what was once a really serious thing 20 years ago is now not as serious because of the advancement in medical procedures. I'm not say Prescott's injury wasn't serious, but not serious in the sense that it couldn't and wasn't corrected by the advancement in medical procedures.
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[big dog cowboy]

https://www.nfl.com/news/cowboys-sign-tag-dak-prescott-have-no-medical-concerns-ankle-surgeries

Sources say Prescott underwent a second -- and previously unreported -- procedure on the ankle about two months later to strengthen his deltoid ligament, clean out the ankle and make it more structurally sound. That procedure wasn't directly related to the October surgery; rather, doctors then spotted issues related to past injuries to the same ankle, and so once the risk of infection was eliminated, they went back in to clean up the rest.

After the second surgery in early December, Prescott had to take about a week off from rehab to let the wound heal, but it improved the stability and integrity of the ankle and should accelerate his overall recovery, per sources. He's now walking without issue, doing weight-bearing exercises and is expected to be ready for action long before the 2021 season begins.

That's one reason there are no medical concerns, sources say, for the Cowboys with regard to offering Prescott a nine-figure contract that would put him among the NFL's highest-paid players. If anything, Prescott is considered a little ahead of schedule in what was initially pegged as a four- to six-month recovery.

Awesome news!

 

[gjkoeppen]

Drip....drip....drip...the bad news. This guy will start 2021 on PUP.

What's funny, not ha ha funny, that it's people here with no medical degree or they got lucky and got on in a box of Cracker Jacks now make all of these medical decisions that are the opposite of those that actually did the surgeries and treated Prescott have been saying.
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[InTheZone]

we're about to have a Jaylon Smith on offense and defense, CHAMPIONSHIP!

 

[gjkoeppen]

Well, that might explain why Dak was still on crutches when we last saw a picture of him around the beginning of Jan.

Now, why would news of a second surgery only be coming out two months later?

I don't trust teams or players when it comes to health reports, especially in a contract year.

This is why teams will offer nothing until Dak passes an independent physical which includes running, cutting, and throwing.

Because it was just 10 days since his second surgery and he was probably following his doctors orders to stay on his crutches until he says not to. There's a link of an article on the NFL site where it says that now he's walking without any issues and also doing weight-bearing exercises. Next why would the Cowboys not trust their own doctors and what they say? The Cowboys doctors do have practices other than with the Cowboys and it's not like their entire financial life is dependent on the Cowboys. The reason the Cowboys get these doctors as their team physicians is because they are the best around at what they do. So it make no sense for them not to trust what they say. As far as what "teams" will offer for Prescott, the ONLY team that will make any offer is the Cowboys and we all know that they are intent on signing him.
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[PAPPYDOG]

we're about to have a Jaylon Smith on offense and defense, CHAMPIONSHIP!

Not the HOTBOYZ but the GIMPBOYS......

 

[gjkoeppen]

Wow. They hid this from us.

that’s not good news.

probably why the contract is stalled.

Dak was looking at 6-8 months to recover from the compound ankle injury.

that would have been July.

Another one of those funny, not ha ha funny things, The actual surgeon that did the surgery gave a 5-6 month recovery time from the time of the 1ST SURGERY. That would put it at April or May but then they also have already said that he's ahead of schedule in his rehab so all of you that are trying your best to paint a bleak picture for Prescott are just spewing fake news.
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[PAPPYDOG]

Can Dak do this?
Next, please!

P.S.Sign the Ballerina!!!

 

[Omegasupreme]

• He will never be the same player again. He is going to be hesitant and complacent on the field. That broke ankle had issues way before his injury. Good luck with all that! I hope JJ understands the risk he is taking if they sign him. As for me, nope. Not with a broken wheel because you need that weight barring bone strong, and the crack is already in the making, just a matter of time.

I think this is a huge concern (and I guess you have to lead with your profession to have clout), and as a psychologist, being able to overcome and be desensitized to the event that caused the injury takes longer than the physical healing. Yes it’s reasonable for Dak to be hesitant and reluctant to put that ankle at risk again with the same passion and fearlessness he did in the past. But since it’s reasonable, how much of Daks value is his mobility and has been his mobility. Dak’s value seems to be in thirds: 1.passion/leadership, 2. Managing plays for passing and 3. Using his body/legs to save/make plays.
I would guess 1 & 2 are still okay. But we might not see #3 for a while. It’s like PTSD. He’s going to have to challenge his fear and the sturdiness a few times before he can trust that the injury is improbable to happen again.

Now, how do you finance that?