Dak Prescott can win a Super Bowl

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You think they pay Dak and build a championship team? That sounds dumb. They had a really good team in Daks first couple of year and he got 1 playoff win. His playoff numbers suck.

First 3 years? You mean when the Cowboys went 13-3, 9-7, and 10-6 made the playoffs twice and won a playoff game? I suppose you think thats a bad first 3 years for a young QB? :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao:

Did you know Dak led the NFL in last drive win those 3 years? Was 2nd to only Tom Brady in wins those first 3 years?

Any more dumb comments?
 

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First 3 years? You mean when the Cowboys went 13-3, 9-7, and 10-6 made the playoffs twice and won a playoff game? I suppose you think thats a bad first 3 years for a young QB? :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao:

Did you know Dak led the NFL in last drive win those 3 years? Was 2nd to only Tom Brady in wins those first 3 years?

Any more dumb comments?
Step back from you love affair with Dak. His playoff numbers suck.
 

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Like most Dak lovers you get your panties in a wad when anyone criticizes Dak.

Im a Cowboys fan. Makes sense.

Whats your excuse? Any time someone talks about resigning our great QB, you throw a tantrum. Sound like a Cowboys fan to you? Poor little troll, looks like your gonna cry when we resign Dak eh?
 

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Im a Cowboys fan. Makes sense.

Whats your excuse? Any time someone talks about resigning our great QB, you throw a tantrum. Sound like a Cowboys fan to you? Poor little troll, looks like your gonna cry when we resign Dak eh?
LOL.....Great quarterback? LOL.... Your a Dak troll not a cowboy fan.
 

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This game proves it.

When an offensive line and defense plays like this, what happens is....... 31-9. Even with the best QBs. I'm not saying this game is Mahomes fault or Dak > Mahomes, but he was under pressure all day, scored 0 touchdowns (in relevant time), and his defense is atrocious. Sounds like a typical Dallas Cowboys game.

Also, Dak is better than Mahomes under pressure. I'll give you the stats to prove it.

Ara you Kidding???

Dak is better than Mahomes under pressure??? Dak has not been able to win games against winning teams.

When an offensive line and defense plays like this... Ok, watch the tampa roster. there are a lot of players that were signed in free agency, it's a balanced team. And if the starting QB is not overpaid, a friendly contract, you say Dak can win the SB ... with the needs of the team in various areas? need OT, S, LB, CB, DT. if Dak is paid a contract of 37-40 million per year, and with the team carrying 9 million in dead money. According to Over The Cap, dallas has $ 18,405,193 free right now, how is a good team going to build if Dak is going to be overpaid?, even cutting players, it is not possible, since good free agents are expensive, the big problem of Dallas the last few years, is to be looking for cheap free agents, who soon get fired. The cheap free agent method has not worked. It's nefarious to think that Dallas' solution is to hire Dakota, pathetic
 

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What make you think they can build a top defense if they pay Dak.
Duuuhhh......I dont know

I have no confidence they can build a top defense at all. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao::lmao:

They havent been able to build one for 25 years, why would things change now?

The funny part is you acting like it will be because of Dak.

I guess you trolls have to come with something. Just sounds really stupid given the last 25 years ineptitude of our GM.
 

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Step back from you love affair with Dak. His playoff numbers suck.

Actually they are good numbers troll:

64% completion percentage for 840 yards and 7 TD's to only 2 picks with a QBR of 95.7 in 3 games.

Poor guy, could you look any more dumb?
 
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A lot of that ineptitude of the GM and the lack of success of this franchise is directly attributed to overpaying for subpar talent.

NO doubt about it. But most of all, its blundering defensive draft picks and taking guys like Zeke when you could have had Ramsey, ect....ect..

Then compounding those mistakes by resigning Zeke for 15 million and resigning Jaylon for 12 million.
 

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Then we're even more screwed because we may not be able to find a franchise QB for at least a few years if that's the case.

Just a thought here and don't get me wrong, Brady is accepted by pretty much anybody with a brain as one of the greatest of all time. But, look at that game last night.

Brady: 21 of 29, 201 yds., 6.9 Avg., 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 1-6 SKs., 81.8 QBR, 125.8 RTG

Take a good look at that stat line. Doesn't really jump out at you as GOAT right? But it's really efficient and it allows the team to play the style of play that wins that game. This used to be acknowledged back in the day. It wasn't just about yards or stats, it was about more then that. Back in the day, Marino threw for 5084 yards in 1984. Now, that's not a big deal today, lots of guys have done it since. In fact, I think 11 other seasons of 5K plus. But here's the thing, 10 of those seasons have come in the last 10 years, 1 of those seasons came in 2008. Think about that now. Marino did it 23 years before the next guy and 26 years before it started becoming a regular thing in the NFL. Basically, the league has become a series Fantasy Football Stat watchers. The real game is different. The real game is about managing the game and that's what used to be called QBing a win. It was never about yards but about winning. That has changed 180 in the last 10 years. Now, it's about stats and this drives everything, including money. But winning, that's not about stats. That's about something else all together. This is the hardest thing to explain to a QB in the entire game. Teaching a QB how to win instead of how to put up stats is the hardest thing to do. Consider, the QB has the most control of a game while on the field. They can literally take a game in any direction they want. So if the stats are what they want to play for, they can do it easily. But if you want to win instead, then maybe stats are not the best way to do that. Interestingly enough, Marino never won a championship, even thou he was a throwing fool. Maybe the best thrower I've ever seen, including all the guys playing today. Marino could throw the football but, he was a crappy QB for actually managing the game. He never valued the run game and he would audible out of it so that he could, instead, throw the ball. That is why he never won. The game is about so much more then just stats and Offense. There is so much more to it then that and it actually kills me to watch it be reduced to just Offense. Defense devalued, the actual art of managing a game, winning a game from the QB position by understanding how to win, what's important. All of that is becoming a lost art unfortunately. But last night, that was an example of what QBing used to be like. That's why you hear a lot of older Football fans say, the game was better, the QBs were better, things like that.

It's also why you see such a big difference of opinion in how and why QBs get paid. Younger fans look at stats, many times, and use that as reasoning as to why a QB should be paid. Older fans look at how QBs used to manage games and what they see as good QBing and don't see the justification because stats don't win games. It's a pretty big divide between generations.

I suppose it is what it is but just trying to explain to you why things play out the way they do. It's not about anything other then that, most times IMO.
 

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This front office has a putrid history of paying elite money while getting average to below average performances; Jaylon, Zeke, Crawford, etc... Then they have no money left to get impact free agents while the money they did invest nets them 8-8 records or worse. Dak will be another one to add to the list - pay elite money, get average to slightly above average performance, and only have enough money to get junk free agents. It’s a cycle of failure. And for the record, while Brady is the GOAT, he did not have to give a GOAT level performance for them to win a SB. He did not have to throw 40 times for 400 yards and 4 td’s. They just needed him to be efficient and drive the bus and let the team do the rest; a team that had enough money to field a good OL, excellent DL, very good LB’s, a good running game that didn’t require a #4 back making 11million, a great TE, and good WR’s. Yesterday proved that a very good team needs just an efficient and effective QB performance. Aaron Rogers is great but it didn’t matter when sub par DB’s give up a TD with a second left before halftime. Pay Dak and then have money left to put a team around him filled with junk free agents and sub par players and go 8-8 in a good year. They need to dump Jaylon, Crawford, Zeke, Dak, and find a GM who can get value for the money.
 

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Just a thought here and don't get me wrong, Brady is accepted by pretty much anybody with a brain as one of the greatest of all time. But, look at that game last night.

Brady: 21 of 29, 201 yds., 6.9 Avg., 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 1-6 SKs., 81.8 QBR, 125.8 RTG

Take a good look at that stat line. Doesn't really jump out at you as GOAT right? But it's really efficient and it allows the team to play the style of play that wins that game. This used to be acknowledged back in the day. It wasn't just about yards or stats, it was about more then that. Back in the day, Marino threw for 5084 yards in 1984. Now, that's not a big deal today, lots of guys have done it since. In fact, I think 11 other seasons of 5K plus. But here's the thing, 10 of those seasons have come in the last 10 years, 1 of those seasons came in 2008. Think about that now. Marino did it 23 years before the next guy and 26 years before it started becoming a regular thing in the NFL. Basically, the league has become a series Fantasy Football Stat watchers. The real game is different. The real game is about managing the game and that's what used to be called QBing a win. It was never about yards but about winning. That has changed 180 in the last 10 years. Now, it's about stats and this drives everything, including money. But winning, that's not about stats. That's about something else all together. This is the hardest thing to explain to a QB in the entire game. Teaching a QB how to win instead of how to put up stats is the hardest thing to do. Consider, the QB has the most control of a game while on the field. They can literally take a game in any direction they want. So if the stats are what they want to play for, they can do it easily. But if you want to win instead, then maybe stats are not the best way to do that. Interestingly enough, Marino never won a championship, even thou he was a throwing fool. Maybe the best thrower I've ever seen, including all the guys playing today. Marino could throw the football but, he was a crappy QB for actually managing the game. He never valued the run game and he would audible out of it so that he could, instead, throw the ball. That is why he never won. The game is about so much more then just stats and Offense. There is so much more to it then that and it actually kills me to watch it be reduced to just Offense. Defense devalued, the actual art of managing a game, winning a game from the QB position by understanding how to win, what's important. All of that is becoming a lost art unfortunately. But last night, that was an example of what QBing used to be like. That's why you hear a lot of older Football fans say, the game was better, the QBs were better, things like that.

It's also why you see such a big difference of opinion in how and why QBs get paid. Younger fans look at stats, many times, and use that as reasoning as to why a QB should be paid. Older fans look at how QBs used to manage games and what they see as good QBing and don't see the justification because stats don't win games. It's a pretty big divide between generations.

I suppose it is what it is but just trying to explain to you why things play out the way they do. It's not about anything other then that, most times IMO.

So all everyone has to do is just run the ball and play defense and it will magically happen?

I got news for you buddy.......................everyone tries to establish the run. Most just cant do it consistently. Everyone would love to limit Mahomes to 9 points, they just cant do it.

Nothing to do with style of play.
 

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This front office has a putrid history of paying elite money while getting average to below average performances; Jaylon, Zeke, Crawford, etc... Then they have no money left to get impact free agents while the money they did invest nets them 8-8 records or worse. Dak will be another one to add to the list - pay elite money, get average to slightly above average performance, and only have enough money to get junk free agents. It’s a cycle of failure. And for the record, while Brady is the GOAT, he did not have to give a GOAT level performance for them to win a SB. He did not have to throw 40 times for 400 yards and 4 td’s. They just needed him to be efficient and drive to bus and let the team do the rest; a team that had enough money to field a good OL, excellent DL, very good LB’s, a good running game that didn’t require a #4 back making 11million, a great TE, and good WR’s. Yesterday proved that a very good team needs just an efficient and effective QB performance. Aaron Rogers is great but it didn’t matter when sub par DB’s give up a TD with a second before halftime. Pay Dak and then put a team around him filled with junk free agents and sub par players and go 8-8 in a good year.

37 points per game, 370 yards passing per game and the best offense in NFL history? If that is average to below average QB play, sign me up!!!
 

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So you are saying Mahomes can only win when everything is right on his team. No injuries to any players, he can only win with a healthy team with good players around him.


I thought QBs that make over 30 million a year is suppose to make his teammates better, are you saying Mahomes can't even at 45 million a year
hes already proved he could through two playoff runs played from behind, played missing players etc etc he even played hurt the last 2 games he has nothing to prove Dak has his entire career and doubt he gets even close to what Mahomes has accomplished the last 3 seasons.. get over it hes not anywhere close they cant be discussed in the same sentence. The gap is the grand canyon in talent and success..
 

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Just a thought here and don't get me wrong, Brady is accepted by pretty much anybody with a brain as one of the greatest of all time. But, look at that game last night.

Brady: 21 of 29, 201 yds., 6.9 Avg., 3 TDs, 0 INTs, 1-6 SKs., 81.8 QBR, 125.8 RTG

Take a good look at that stat line. Doesn't really jump out at you as GOAT right? But it's really efficient and it allows the team to play the style of play that wins that game. This used to be acknowledged back in the day. It wasn't just about yards or stats, it was about more then that. Back in the day, Marino threw for 5084 yards in 1984. Now, that's not a big deal today, lots of guys have done it since. In fact, I think 11 other seasons of 5K plus. But here's the thing, 10 of those seasons have come in the last 10 years, 1 of those seasons came in 2008. Think about that now. Marino did it 23 years before the next guy and 26 years before it started becoming a regular thing in the NFL. Basically, the league has become a series Fantasy Football Stat watchers. The real game is different. The real game is about managing the game and that's what used to be called QBing a win. It was never about yards but about winning. That has changed 180 in the last 10 years. Now, it's about stats and this drives everything, including money. But winning, that's not about stats. That's about something else all together. This is the hardest thing to explain to a QB in the entire game. Teaching a QB how to win instead of how to put up stats is the hardest thing to do. Consider, the QB has the most control of a game while on the field. They can literally take a game in any direction they want. So if the stats are what they want to play for, they can do it easily. But if you want to win instead, then maybe stats are not the best way to do that. Interestingly enough, Marino never won a championship, even thou he was a throwing fool. Maybe the best thrower I've ever seen, including all the guys playing today. Marino could throw the football but, he was a crappy QB for actually managing the game. He never valued the run game and he would audible out of it so that he could, instead, throw the ball. That is why he never won. The game is about so much more then just stats and Offense. There is so much more to it then that and it actually kills me to watch it be reduced to just Offense. Defense devalued, the actual art of managing a game, winning a game from the QB position by understanding how to win, what's important. All of that is becoming a lost art unfortunately. But last night, that was an example of what QBing used to be like. That's why you hear a lot of older Football fans say, the game was better, the QBs were better, things like that.

It's also why you see such a big difference of opinion in how and why QBs get paid. Younger fans look at stats, many times, and use that as reasoning as to why a QB should be paid. Older fans look at how QBs used to manage games and what they see as good QBing and don't see the justification because stats don't win games. It's a pretty big divide between generations.

I suppose it is what it is but just trying to explain to you why things play out the way they do. It's not about anything other then that, most times IMO.

Well, I mean, that'd be fine if we had a defence. That's the key thing we have to build. THat's what the SB taught me.
 

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What make you think they can build a top defense if they pay Dak.
Duuuhhh......I dont know
That side of the fan base will just never understand this. This Cowboys defensive team just isn't very good. You've got to have the money to bring in FA's to help AND draft defensive players well. I don't believe you can pay Dak top 3 money (or whatever) and build a championship team. That's not because I'm against Dak, it's just the way the Cowboys are currently built, they need too many players.
 

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That side of the fan base will just never understand this. This Cowboys defensive team just isn't very good. You've got to have the money to bring in FA's to help AND draft defensive players well. I don't believe you can pay Dak top 3 money (or whatever) and build a championship team. That's not because I'm against Dak, it's just the way the Cowboys are currently built, they need too many players.
I don't mind if people believe we can't build a defense if Dak gets paid. What I have a problem with is that our QB1 made $4.1 million in his first 4 years and our first round draft pick was used on defense twice to close out his rookie contract. What I want to know from the side of the fan base who thinks building a defense can't occur if Dak gets paid, is why couldn't we build a defense when he wasn't getting paid? Dak getting paid isn't going to prevent the Cowboys from building a defense. An incompetent front office will prevent it even if Dak played for free. They don't know what they are doing on the defensive side of the ball.
 
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