Exactly how have we gotten better from last year?

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We are not better than at this time last year. We still have a long way to go, draft and training camp.
 

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I guess you don’t remember the huge number of injuries to critical players. Dak, Tyron, Looney, Martin, L’ael, LVE, Diggs, McCoy, etc, etc. Just the fact that those players will be healthy means the team will be much better this year. McCoy’s gone, but he never played a regular season game.

There’s a new defensive coaching staff for one. That could be a huge help. They just signed the 3rd best run stopper in the NFL in Urban. Run defense was a huge weakness last year. That’s an immediate upgrade. They signed an edge rusher who had 32 QB pressures last year in Bashum. They also signed Watkins who can play inside or out for some depth. Again, LVE should be healthy. We’ll see. They have the #10 pick in the draft in case you didn’t know so should be able to get a stud for the defense. They have 10 total draft picks and the more picks you take the better chance you have of hitting on 3 or 4 of them.

Free agency just started so there will probably be some more signings.

So having said all this, how can you start a thread like this and state “this team seems worse than last year?”
The team wasn’t good last season , before the injuries started. Starting a thread like this is as simple as starting a thread about how all fans needs to be unrealistic cheerleaders and if you disagree, you are a quitter and loser.
 

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I understand their philosophy of not wanting to overspend but this roster needs some serious remodeling. I thought with the Dak contract out of the way, they could focus on making this roster more balanced


If anything, this team seems worse than last year
Yes it is worst. But hey we like our guys.
Last season was a chance to reset and now that opportunity is lost. Getting to 6 wins was beyond stupid. It did nothing for the team at all. Picking top 5 would have been great to either draft a QB or pick another game wrecker because it seems as though there will be a run on QB's.
Oh yeah we like our guys. 8-8 is the goal.
 

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I understand their philosophy of not wanting to overspend but this roster needs some serious remodeling. I thought with the Dak contract out of the way, they could focus on making this roster more balanced


If anything, this team seems worse than last year
We haven't.

Our defense will be our downfall again and anybody pinning their hopes on a bunch of rookies turning the entire defense around are just fooling themselves.

Also, We have NO IDEA how Dak will play not just physically, but mentally also after the injury. What if he's gun shy and terrified of leaving the pocket now? What if he got his money and lost some of that hunger? There's just so much that we don't know.
 

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The team wasn’t good last season , before the injuries started. Starting a thread like this is as simple as starting a thread about how all fans needs to be unrealistic cheerleaders and if you disagree, you are a quitter and loser.
1-3 before all the injuries, but people act like we were lighting the league on fire lol
 

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1-3 before all the injuries, but people act like we were lighting the league on fire lol
You are exactly right. The team was very bad before the injuries and the team, led by Dalton, at the end of the season played much better than the team played when they was healthy. It seems like the garbage time stats that Dak accumulated in those first few games meant more to some fans than the team losing.
 

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The team wasn’t good last season , before the injuries started. Starting a thread like this is as simple as starting a thread about how all fans needs to be unrealistic cheerleaders and if you disagree, you are a quitter and loser.

Very true. I was a pre season predictor of 6-10 before a snap was ever taken, pandemic ever declared or before the first injury ever occurred.

But my eyes were truly opened last year when this forum's majority revealed how it could not grasp how meaningless end of season losses could potentially help improve the team's near future player choices in following year(s).

Countless debates arose surrounding how if the losses were motivated by the intent to lose on purpose.

The end game was trying to convince the masses that, however the losses occurred, intentional or not, could it potentially improve the team for the future from an already lost season if the proper draftees were chosen.

The responses by most to that simple scenario explained the bredth of knowledge/understanding for this message board.

But to answer the OP, I see no improvement from my last year's prediction of 6-10. But the added game makes it 6-11 this year.
 
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You are exactly right. The team was very bad before the injuries and the team, led by Dalton, at the end of the season played much better than the team played when they was healthy. It seems like the garbage time stats that Dak accumulated in those first few games meant more to some fans than the team losing.
I mean, one of the BIG reasons (that most don't like to admit) we would go down by so much wasn't all because of the terrible defense. It was Dak and the offense not doing anything for 2 1/2 quarters until the opponents finally had a big enough lead that they started to play much softer. It seemed like is was 3 and out almost every drive until we would go down by 3 TDs.
 

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In the Jones boys mind....Quinn...he will be the savior on def

Rod, Richard, Monte K, now Quinn. Always the savior.

I would say that having Dak back will certainly help but these turds better have a great draft.
 

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I understand their philosophy of not wanting to overspend but this roster needs some serious remodeling. I thought with the Dak contract out of the way, they could focus on making this roster more balanced


If anything, this team seems worse than last year

2 days into the official start to the season and we are worse than last season.

Crazy, right?
 

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You are exactly right. The team was very bad before the injuries and the team, led by Dalton, at the end of the season played much better than the team played when they was healthy. It seems like the garbage time stats that Dak accumulated in those first few games meant more to some fans than the team losing.

Yup, I hear ya. To reward a QB a 160 million dollar contract after returning from season ending injury, who was 9-11 in his last 20 NFL starts, pre OR post pandemic, under 2 different coaches makes absolutely perfect sense.

Captain-Crash said it best about the Zeke contract but with a follow on about Dak. I'm paraphrasing. "Maybe if we just pay him more, he will win more games. So easy a quarterback could do it"
Lol :)
 

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Exactly how have we gotten better from last year?

It's only March 18th. The Cowboys don't need to be better until the season opener.

My goodness FA is only a couple days old and the draft is 6 weeks away.

My goodness - you don’t get it. This team has holes and needs some quality Starters to get better. They plan to get no quality Starters in Free Agency, just cheap bodies and backups. Again. So all the quality Starters needed to get better are coming from just the Rookie draft picks ? It won’t happen, it never happens, and it’s why they stay mediocre. The date March 18th is not the significant thing. - the significant thing about now is they have again missed a chance to get quality Staters in Free Agency. Getting more bargain bin FA signings and some rookies from the draft will not make them better enough to matter. Any team that ignores FA to get quality starters to fill some holes will always have holes and will never win. We prove it every year. Right now we are standing at the station again while the Playoff Express is being loaded by other teams.
 

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I mean, one of the BIG reasons (that most don't like to admit) we would go down by so much wasn't all because of the terrible defense. It was Dak and the offense not doing anything for 2 1/2 quarters until the opponents finally had a big enough lead that they started to play much softer. It seemed like is was 3 and out almost every drive until we would go down by 3 TDs.
I have made this point time after time and I have even made the point during game threads while it was happening. Dak lovers must wear blinders because they don’t see it.
 

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Some points:

Injuries - every team experiences injuries. Cowboys weren't the only team with a lot of injuries last season - all teams were impacted by a lack of preseason conditioning. We also lost most of our early season games when we'd more starters available.

The draft - every team gets to draft new players every year.
Not every team experiences injuries to so many key players. Give me a break. Your QB and entire offensive line? Please.
 

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I have made this point time after time and I have even made the point during game threads while it was happening. Dak lovers must wear blinders because they don’t see it.
Some people are just too into their feels about Dak that they have become more Dak fans then Cowboy fans.

The same think happened with Romo. I remember when Dak was HATED by Cowboys fans for leading the team to 13-3 and taking Romo's job. This used to be a proud fanbase, but now its just looking for the next loveable loser to rally behind.
 

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I mean, one of the BIG reasons (that most don't like to admit) we would go down by so much wasn't all because of the terrible defense. It was Dak and the offense not doing anything for 2 1/2 quarters until the opponents finally had a big enough lead that they started to play much softer. It seemed like is was 3 and out almost every drive until we would go down by 3 TDs.
All the fumbles had a lot to do with that and lots of penalties. You haters are just looking at the end result and are too lazy to try and figure out the myriad of causes. You're not able to process all that information so you take the easy way out.
 

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All the fumbles had a lot to do with that and lots of penalties. You haters are just looking at the end result and are too lazy to try and figure out the myriad of causes. You're not able to process all that information so you take the easy way out.
Dak had 4 INTs and 3 fumbles himself.

It sounds like you're just trying to make excuses.

Dak's play through the first 2 1/2 quarters of the games didn't help.
 

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Dak had 4 INTs and 3 fumbles himself.

It sounds like you're just trying to make excuses.

Dak's play through the first 2 1/2 quarters of the games didn't help.
Right it's all Dak's fault. No matter what happens. You haters are just ignorant.
 

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I understand their philosophy of not wanting to overspend but this roster needs some serious remodeling. I thought with the Dak contract out of the way, they could focus on making this roster more balanced


If anything, this team seems worse than last year

Why would you think that?
 
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