If the Cowboys traded w/Bears, who do you want at 20?

[morasp]

Like Newsome, but he does have an injury history as well. Think Barmore goes much later then here.

Good catch, I hadn't read that.

 

[unionjack8]

That's a massive drop off in talent from Surtain, Horn, Slater.....

I dont move backwards that far

 

[Cowboyny]

What are we getting in return?

The trade chart says:

Chicago gives up a 2 & 3 for 10 and both our 4th rd picks.
QB's cost more, I bet we could get a 2&3 or a 3 and a future 1.

 

[Cowboyny]

would you take him over Ojulari given the medicals?

Phillips is as risky as taking Farley in my opinion. Could be 1 bad concussion away from being out of the league. Love both players, but with the extra pick might be worth the gamble.

 

[Cowboyny]

Moehrig is absolutely not out

I agree, think Moehrig is very much in play.

 

[Bowdown27]

At 20 maybe Barmore or JOK.

I’d like jok. And do we get their second in Thai trade as well? We can rake corner and dt or safety then. Would be a nice draft

 

[Cowboyny]

Good catch, I hadn't read that.

He has missed games every year due to injuries.

 

[Cowboyny]

That's a massive drop off in talent from Surtain, Horn, Slater.....

I dont move backwards that far

That's the 25k question, is quantity better then quality?

 

[morasp]

He has missed games every year due to injuries.

After Chido and LVE I don't know I would take that risk in the first round.

 

[CATCH17]

would you take him over Ojulari given the medicals?

I don’t know how his medicals effect him going forward.

Based on what I’ve seen just on film it’s a no brainer for me.

He’s a much more talented prospect than Ojulari.. Nothing wrong with Ojulari either I just see Phillips being a top 5 kind of talent that’s going at a huge discount.

 

[Cowboyny]

Good catch, I hadn't read that.

I was touting Newsome a long time ago, think he is an excellent fit for our cover 3 scheme, but he does have an injury history. Really don't think there is much separation between Surtain/Horn and him. At 20, he would be a good pick. Heard recently that the Cowboys medically cleared Farley. Could he also be in consideration?

 

[CATCH17]

Phillips is as risky as taking Farley in my opinion. Could be 1 bad concussion away from being out of the league. Love both players, but with the extra pick might be worth the gamble.

The risk will be minimized because we can keep him on a rotation and I’m also not super worried about my defensive end taking a lot of head shots.

I think the worry with him would come on his 2nd contract and if he wants to retire.

 

[Plankton]

I just ran a mock draft sim on PFN with this very scenario - Bears trade up for #10. I got back #20, #52 and next year's 3rd rounder.

20. Zaven Collins - LB Tulsa
44. Eric Stokes - CB Georgia
52. Alim McNeill - DT North Carolina State
75. Jamar Johnson - S Indiana
99. Tommy Tremble - TE Notre Dame
115. Quincy Roche - DE Miami (FL)
138. Bobby Brown - DT Texas A&M
179. Robert Hainsey - OG/OT Notre Dame
192. Derrick Barnes - LB Purdue
227. Kene Nwangwu - RB Iowa State
238. Deommodore Lenoir - CB Oregon

2022 CHI 3rd

 

[Cowboyny]

After Chido and LVE I don't know I would take that risk in the first round.

It's a fair concern.

 

[The Realist]

Tyron could be done soon and LC is no sure thing.

Give me Darrisaw.

 

[Cowboyny]

The risk will be minimized because we can keep him on a rotation and I’m also not super worried about my defensive end taking a lot of head shots.

I think the worry with him would come on his 2nd contract and if he wants to retire.

There is a lot of things teams need to consider regarding Phillips. Dane said he can go anywhere in the top 40.

 

[Frosty]

The trade chart says:

Chicago gives up a 2 & 3 for 10 and both our 4th rd picks.
QB's cost more, I bet we could get a 2&3 or a 3 and a future 1.

Got a different take on it

Chicago gives up K. Mack and the 20th pick to move up to 10th pick in the Draft.

Chicago takes = Justin Fields

Dallas takes = Christian Barmore & receives K. Mack

 

[Cowboyny]

Got a different take on it

Chicago gives up K. Mack and the 20th pick to move up to 10th pick in the Draft.

Chicago takes = Justin Fields

Dallas takes = Christian Barmore & receives K. Mack

You aren't getting Mack for a move up as they paid multiple 1st rd picks to get him.

 

[JBS]

I would take Farley at 20...then use the extra capital and move up from 44 and take Moehrig

 

[DanA]

For me it would be:
1. Darrisaw
2. Barmore
3.Ojulari
4. Newsome

I'd be more than happy with one of those guys.