The folks that want Pitts, Sewell, Slater

[kskboys]

Drafting for need got us Taco Charlton. Drafting BPA got us Cee Dee Lamb. Give me the BPA.

No, it didn't. Taco was a BPA pick. More than anything, he was simply a bad evaluation.

People who scream "BPA" all the time keep claiming that, because it fits their agenda.

BPA is one of the worst ways to draft there is, and no team uses that method. It's a fan thing. Drafting is far more complicated than just drafting BPA or need.

Lamb was too good to pass up, I'll grant you that.

 

[Whyjerry]

We need a CB.

But Sewell is a top 5 guy IMO. You have to take him.

This is my feeling too. OT is a vital position. Plus you just gave 40 million plus to a 27 year old QB. Let’s try to protect him. Tyron was a great player. He is unreliable now. If Sewell is there you have to take him.

 

[32BellyOption]

No, it didn't. Taco was a BPA pick. More than anything, he was simply a bad evaluation.

People who scream "BPA" all the time keep claiming that, because it fits their agenda.

BPA is one of the worst ways to draft there is, and no team uses that method. It's a fan thing. Drafting is far more complicated than just drafting BPA or need.

Lamb was too good to pass up, I'll grant you that.

Watts was rated higher than Taco on our board but Marinelli wanted Taco as he thought he fit our scheme better. Worked out great for the Steelers.

I understand in certain situations taking a position of need but Pitts is rated by some as the best player in this draft. You don’t pass on that talent at 10.

 

[GMO415]

The new name of our CB squad...Crimson Tide West

 

[Zekeats]

Your eyes are tinted with blue and silver. I have no real issues with Brown or Lewis being on the roster as they at least provide good depth at CB. But if Brown is our outside starting CB in 2021, that's a problem. He's blah. He's absolutely not "a very good starting CB".

I can live with Lewis as a slot CB but he has to be way more consistent than he's been to even consider him a "Top 5 slot CB".

He was as consistent as they come up until last year. What’s your plan keep throwing antwan woods and trysten hill out there lol. I love it, yeah let’s spend our first two picks on dbs. What a joke

 

[Dre11]

To sign a significant FA, we'd have to put most of the money even further down the road. At some point, this comes back to haunt you. And we're simply not one player away on D.

how long has this been the case? we've been hearing we're not 1 player away for 20 years a some point you have to go for it, a player like Willie Jackson, doesnt kill you. we've been doing all this cap management stuff for years and can barely get out of the first round of playoffs.

 

[Dre11]

No, it's hasn't. Drafting for flash is what has screwed this franchise in a major way, along w/ very poor player evaluations and falling for crapp.

When did this ridiculous idea get started that drafting for need is bad? Utterly ridiculous.

So true, when every team drafting a quaterback this year is drafting him for need...lol

 

[Dre11]

Show me how he doesn't play the outside well? Actually all of his INT's came when he was playing on the outside. And Lewis is a top 5 slot corner again I did say he had a down year but his coverage in the slot is usually as good as could be and he tackles very well too. The guy single handedly did something that nobody has ever done in taking Alvin Kamara completely out of a game. You short minded fans quickly forget based on a terrible season with a terrible DC. Everyone sucked last season and again it was because we can't get any pressure especially interior on the QB. Our best defenses where the ones that could shutdown the run first and foremost and make an offense one dimensional.

lol Lewis could barely get on the field 2017-2019 unless there was an injury, and when he did he was average. Brown gets beat like a drum, or is called for PI most of the time he's on the field, He's so good on the outside he only started when there was injury, and it wasn't like we had studs at CB...LOL

 

[Dre11]

So you have nothing to back up these claims? No analysis from an expert, PFF grades, etc?

Brown is an average, at best, CB. Lewis is not a Top 5 slot CB.

I was going to leave this one alone, dude threw me for a loop when he said Lewis was top 5 and Brown was a starter outside...lol

 

[Dre11]

No, it didn't. Taco was a BPA pick. More than anything, he was simply a bad evaluation.

People who scream "BPA" all the time keep claiming that, because it fits their agenda.

BPA is one of the worst ways to draft there is, and no team uses that method. It's a fan thing. Drafting is far more complicated than just drafting BPA or need.

Lamb was too good to pass up, I'll grant you that.

exactly, Taco was rated higher than TJ Watt in that draft

 

[jaythecowboy]

People conflate a lot of other issues which makes it hard to pin down an actual discussion on bpa vs need. Positional value is a separate argument, along with how heavily scheme should factor into draft picks.

 

[Dre11]

Watts was rated higher than Taco on our board but Marinelli wanted Taco as he thought he fit our scheme better. Worked out great for the Steelers.

I understand in certain situations taking a position of need but Pitts is rated by some as the best player in this draft. You don’t pass on that talent at 10.

Taco was rated higher by most scouting analyst that year, Taco was thought of a 1st at worse early 2nd.

 

[Cowboyny]

Don't care about the CB position? Right now we have one starter on the roster at CB and I'm not fond of a rookie starter there, but we passed on veteran CBs in Free agency so right now the only way to get one seems to be the draft. If we draft Slater, Sewell or Pitts, we lose Surtain and Joe Horn. Not only is Surtain a great pick at 10, He fits a need and arguably the BPA on defense side of the ball. Why would you do anything else on draft day but take him.?

Cause these are the better players. It's another very deep corner class, where the gap between the top 2 corners and the 2nd tier ones isn't that great. Surtain is a solid player, similar to Bryon Jones, but he isn't expected to become a star. Horn is very handsy and has to change his game for the NFL or will become a flag machine.

 

[Dre11]

People conflate a lot of other issues which makes it hard to pin down an actual discussion on bpa vs need. Positional value is a separate argument, along with how heavily scheme should factor into draft picks.

at some point I think it all comes down to scheme, because every coach has one he wants to run.

 

[Dre11]

Cause these are the better players. It's another very deep corner class, where the gap between the top 2 corners and the 2nd tier ones isn't that great. Surtain is a solid player, similar to Bryon Jones, but he isn't expected to become a star. Horn is very handsy and has to change his game for the NFL or will become a flag machine.

you say bettter players, that may not help you this year other than Pitts, plus there is a big gap between the top 2 and the other CB and you have a huge hole at a prime spot.

 

[jaythecowboy]

you say bettter players, that may not help you this year other than Pitts, plus there is a big gap between the top 2 and the other CB and you have a huge hole at a prime spot.

Sewell or Slater would be left guard day one if they got drafted so they would help for sure. WR is more iffy unless the Cowboys could work out a trade for a defensive player or draft pick.

 

[starfan1]

you say bettter players, that may not help you this year other than Pitts, plus there is a big gap between the top 2 and the other CB and you have a huge hole at a prime spot.

says who?

 

[Dre11]

Sewell or Slater would be left guard day one if they got drafted so they would help for sure. WR is more iffy unless the Cowboys could work out a trade for a defensive player or draft pick.

So we're drafting a tackle to play Gaurd? who says he can play Gaurd?

 

[Dre11]

says who?

The scouting on both Surtain , Horn, Farley are that they are day 1 starters. the others, I've heard flaws that make you question them as day 1 starter.

 

[jaythecowboy]

So we're drafting a tackle to play Gaurd? who says he can play Gaurd?

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