The folks that want Pitts, Sewell, Slater

[Tussinman]

Drafting for need got us Taco Charlton. Drafting BPA got us Cee Dee Lamb. Give me the BPA.

Taco was graded as a late 1st rounder and that's where we took him. A better example would of been Hill, they reached for him instead of taking Thornhill who was projected by most scouts to be an immediate day 1 starter (took a project DT instead of a starting S because they felt DT was a bigger need)

 

[Dre11]

Everyone

Who's everyone? have they seen him do it?

 

[erod]

Don't care about the CB position? Right now we have one starter on the roster at CB and I'm not fond of a rookie starter there, but we passed on veteran CBs in Free agency so right now the only way to get one seems to be the draft. If we draft Slater, Sewell or Pitts, we lose Surtain and Joe Horn. Not only is Surtain a great pick at 10, He fits a need and arguably the BPA on defense side of the ball. Why would you do anything else on draft day but take him.?

Just because you draft them doesn't mean they'll be any good.

Corners bust all the time.

Draft great players in the first round. Never draft for need.

 

[Dre11]

Just because you draft them doesn't mean they'll be any good.

Corners bust all the time.

Draft great players in the first round. Never draft for need.

Qbs bust all the time, Yet they're drafted for need, OL bust all the time, they're drafted for need. you draft to fill holes when you don't use free agency, its silly to not draft for need. when its done all the time and work.

 

[Zekeats]

lol Lewis could barely get on the field 2017-2019 unless there was an injury, and when he did he was average. Brown gets beat like a drum, or is called for PI most of the time he's on the field, He's so good on the outside he only started when there was injury, and it wasn't like we had studs at CB...LOL

I’m sure Lewis hasn’t played your silly. Show me brown getting toasted. Show me, you can’t cause he’s not that bad. Fans like you are the reason this team will never win cause you’ll keep buying that wr Jersey and keep getting hyped over a corner like he’s the next Deion. The team needs to build the lines on both sides if they want to win end of story.

 

[Zekeats]

here is the reason why we suck on defense. It’s not the corner play it’s the line play.

 

[Dre11]

I’m sure Lewis hasn’t played your silly. Show me brown getting toasted. Show me, you can’t cause he’s not that bad. Fans like you are the reason this team will never win cause you’ll keep buying that wr Jersey and keep getting hyped over a corner like he’s the next Deion. The team needs to build the lines on both sides if they want to win end of story.

no its fans like you who don't know what their looking at, take your poll and see how many think Brown or Lewis is a starter in this league on the outside. Brown is consistently in trail technique when on the field and gets flagged on the regular.
Lewis could barely get on the field from 2017-2019, and is nowhere near a top slot corner. that's fact. Find one person outside of you who thinks so.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Who's everyone? have they seen him do it?

Every scouting report I've read has said they can play guard. Who have you seen say they can't?

 

[starfan1]

The scouting on both Surtain , Horn, Farley are that they are day 1 starters. the others, I've heard flaws that make you question them as day 1 starter.

4/3/21: Surtain played well in 2020. He had some issues against Tennessee and was beaten by the Florida Gators' Trevon Grimes for a 50-yard touchdown in the SEC Championship, illustrating that Surtain lacks elite speed and twitch, but is a big corner who is reliable to cover up big receivers.

At the pro level, Surtain would not be a corner to match up against fast explosive wideouts like a Tyreek Hill, Will Fuller or Robby Anderson. However, Surtain still looks like a good outside corner who could have Pro Bowl potential. While Surtain will go early in the 2021 NFL Draft, he is not as good of a prospect as Jalen Ramsey, Jeff Okudah or C.J. Henderson.

https://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/scoutingreport2021PSurtain.php

I think there are just alot of folks that feel like CB has to be addressed with pick 10. Im not in that camp but Im ok if thats the pick. I dont think the gap between the top 2 and the rest is as large as you say but its not worth hijacking the thread to argue about it. I think Patrick will be a good Pro but will have growing pains just like any other CB that comes to the pros. I think that the cowboys will be just fine with Melonfonu or Newsome either one if the board dictates they take someone graded higher on their board. It dont have to be at 10 IMO but that dont meani dont care about CB position.

 

[Dre11]

Every scouting report I've read has said they can play guard. Who have you seen say they can't?

As you can see, based on my film study of the former Oregon Duck, I don’t believe a move to guard is in his future. Additionally, I believe his skill set is far more well suited at tackle, where he can use his athleticism to his advantage, as compared to at guard where his lack of inline power could be more of an issue.

While I am all-in on Sewell as a future NFL player, I do want to note that I am not of the opinion that he is a “once-in-a-generation prospect” as some were touting him to be early in his career. Now, that is no slight to Sewell at all, he is a hell of a prospect and would probably have been the first tackle selected in last year's draft. I just personally don’t like using such hyperbole, as I do not think it's fair to the player.

All in all, Sewell should be selected in the top five of the 2021 NFL Draft, and his evaluation should be one of the easiest in this entire process. Having just turned 20 years old, Sewell is only going to get better and I for one am excited to see him develop over the next few seasons.

https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/penei-sewell-2021-nfl-draft-tackle-or-guard

 

[Dre11]

4/3/21: Surtain played well in 2020. He had some issues against Tennessee and was beaten by the Florida Gators' Trevon Grimes for a 50-yard touchdown in the SEC Championship, illustrating that Surtain lacks elite speed and twitch, but is a big corner who is reliable to cover up big receivers.

At the pro level, Surtain would not be a corner to match up against fast explosive wideouts like a Tyreek Hill, Will Fuller or Robby Anderson. However, Surtain still looks like a good outside corner who could have Pro Bowl potential. While Surtain will go early in the 2021 NFL Draft, he is not as good of a prospect as Jalen Ramsey, Jeff Okudah or C.J. Henderson.

https://BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/scoutingreport2021PSurtain.php

I think there are just alot of folks that feel like CB has to be addressed with pick 10. Im not in that camp but Im ok if thats the pick. I dont think the gap between the top 2 and the rest is as large as you say but its not worth hijacking the thread to argue about it. I think Patrick will be a good Pro but will have growing pains just like any other CB that comes to the pros. I think that the cowboys will be just fine with Melonfonu or Newsome either one if the board dictates they take someone graded higher on their board. It dont have to be at 10.

1. PATRICK SURTAIN II, ALABAMA
PFF BIG BOARD RANK: 13
Surtain was the highest-graded cornerback in college football this past season and has seen his PFF grade increase every single year since his freshman campaign. It's also not hard to project him to the NFL, as he has played 662 press coverage snaps over the past two years.


https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-cornerback-rankings
3) Patrick Surtain II, Alabama
Son of former Dolphins legend Patrick Surtain Sr., Surtain Jr. seems to be the consensus summer scouting CB1. He was able to carve out a role for himself as a true freshman at Alabama and has been a steady presence for them since. It’s obvious he’s the son of a former All-Pro, as he already plays like an established veteran.

Surtain shows strong patience and discipline while doing a good job deconstructing plays as they happen. I would like to see him be more aggressive given his natural length at 6’2″, but his ability to stop and start at that size is quite impressive. I have some concerns about his natural athletic ability, which would slightly limit his ceiling as a dominant shut-down cornerback.

 

[Loso86]

Who?

Going off o years past, diggs, brown and Lewis

 

[Dre11]

Going off o years past, diggs, brown and Lewis

Brown nor Lewis is a starting outside CB in this league, as backup a few games maybe.

 

[Loso86]

Brown nor Lewis is a starting outside CB in this league, as backup a few games maybe.

Going off the last few years, brown has played outside, and Lewis has been in the slot mostly

 

[DeaconBlues]

It’s always case by case, but sure.

If Lawrence somehow fell for some insane reason, you’d take him and trade Prescott.

Well, Dak has a no-trade clause, so . . .

 

[mardwin]

Don't care about the CB position? Right now we have one starter on the roster at CB and I'm not fond of a rookie starter there, but we passed on veteran CBs in Free agency so right now the only way to get one seems to be the draft. If we draft Slater, Sewell or Pitts, we lose Surtain and Joe Horn. Not only is Surtain a great pick at 10, He fits a need and arguably the BPA on defense side of the ball. Why would you do anything else on draft day but take him.?

You want to know how valuable the LT position is in the NFL, go watch the super bowl highlights Bucs v Chiefs. Dallas just paid $40M/yr to Dak for the next 3 seasons, it's a no-brainer what the pick should if Sewell, Slater, Pitts, Surtain, Horn all become available at #10.

 

[Dre11]

You want to know how valuable the LT position is in the NFL, go watch the super bowl highlights Bucs v Chiefs. Dallas just paid $40M/yr to Dak for the next 3 seasons, it's a no-brainer what the pick should if Sewell, Slater, Pitts, Surtain, Horn all become available at #10.

lol... so Tyron Smith isn't a LT, so unless T. Smith misses another entire year, He's not playing LT.

 

[mardwin]

lol... so Tyron Smith isn't a LT, so unless T. Smith misses another entire year, He's not playing LT.

Tyron is always breaking down and Dak pays the price. I don't think he will get more durable with age but the contrary. Tyron is slated to be a $17M cap hit next year at 32, Dallas is going to draft his replacement with the 10th pick if either Sewell or Slater is available.

 

[mardwin]

 

[starfan1]

1. PATRICK SURTAIN II, ALABAMA
PFF BIG BOARD RANK: 13
Surtain was the highest-graded cornerback in college football this past season and has seen his PFF grade increase every single year since his freshman campaign. It's also not hard to project him to the NFL, as he has played 662 press coverage snaps over the past two years.


https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2021-nfl-draft-cornerback-rankings
3) Patrick Surtain II, Alabama
Son of former Dolphins legend Patrick Surtain Sr., Surtain Jr. seems to be the consensus summer scouting CB1. He was able to carve out a role for himself as a true freshman at Alabama and has been a steady presence for them since. It’s obvious he’s the son of a former All-Pro, as he already plays like an established veteran.

Surtain shows strong patience and discipline while doing a good job deconstructing plays as they happen. I would like to see him be more aggressive given his natural length at 6’2″, but his ability to stop and start at that size is quite impressive. I have some concerns about his natural athletic ability, which would slightly limit his ceiling as a dominant shut-down cornerback.

Ya I read those as well. i don't doubt he can play what i doubt is that the others cant. I just don't see he and Horn as a huge gap between the others. It dont matter who it is ill root for them on Sunday but give me captain trade back and a LB first.