Drafted by Cowboys Cowboys select Josh Ball Marshall OT at 138

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Get back to me when you and your family goes through something like that and we'll talk about it! I hope it never happens.....

Look...sorry for your loss. Please do not assume nobody else has had any.

You have failed to see my point....fine.

All pot-smokers bust in houses and kill people. I get it. I hate them all for that too.
 
Look...sorry for your loss. Please do not assume nobody else has had any.

You have failed to see my point....fine.

All pot-smokers bust in houses and kill people. I get it. I hate them all for that too.
I know what you mean, my point was that if he's gonna judge this kid, he may as well judge them all.
 
I know what you mean, my point was that if he's gonna judge this kid, he may as well judge them all.

This makes no sense. There are varying levels of player issues. Randy Gregory was a pot head. I can tolerate that guy on a team. Gregory smoking up in his apartment isn’t the same as a guy smacking around his girlfriend. At least to me.

You feel differently.
 
This makes no sense. There are varying levels of player issues. Randy Gregory was a pot head. I can tolerate that guy on a team. Gregory smoking up in his apartment isn’t the same as a guy smacking around his girlfriend. At least to me.

You feel differently.
Do you know all the facts? Enlighten me....
 
i really do not care if this guy makes the team or not. with his DV issues i really am surprised he was drafted at all.
 
Do you know all the facts? Enlighten me....

Facts of what? Ball’s issues?

Yeah we have a pretty good idea of what he did. We also know he has never really denied many of the allegations. He’s openly admitted he made some bad mistakes. He had a court ordered temp restraining order on him and entered into an agreement to stay away from the girl for four years.
 
Apparently he has some domestic violence issues.

No worries, let's just blame the victim like we usually do and we'll all feel better about it.

*Bruglar say he'd be a 2nd round prospect otherwise
Domestic violence does not change us. Zeke was the poster boy for us. Whatever.
 
He had to enter into an agreement with her. He had to stay away from her place of work, church, school, etc. He couldn't come within 500 feet of her parents home, etc. And the allegation isn't that the phone hit her after being slapped out of her hand. He broke her phone and after she got mad he slapped her in the face. He threw her into a closet after she didn't text him back fast enough. He allegedly threw her onto the floor another time for apparently not spending enough time with him. She got a laceration on her knee from being thrown down.

That's just issues with her. He also was accused of assaulting a guy in a bar because the GF was talking to him. He smashed her windshield in another allegation and also bent her key so she couldn't get away from him.

We aren't talking childish, college stupidity here. We are talking about real issues. The fact he had to enter into a restraining agreement should tell you that these are very serious things, not college kids being college kids like some are trying to argue.
If all of that is true I probably wouldnt have drafted him unless I really got to the bottom of his character.
 
Facts of what? Ball’s issues?

Yeah we have a pretty good idea of what he did. We also know he has never really denied many of the allegations. He’s openly admitted he made some bad mistakes. He had a court ordered temp restraining order on him and entered into an agreement to stay away from the girl for four years.
Was he charged and arrested? Maybe he just didn't want to deal with a toxic! Whatever, you don't like him, don't root for him and stop judging a kid without know what happened. See ya.... Salud!
 
Was he charged and arrested? Maybe he just didn't want to deal with a toxic! Whatever, you don't like him, don't root for him and stop judging a kid without know what happened. See ya.... Salud!

The girl didn’t want to press charges. She wanted him out of her life and it over so she entered into a restraining agreement.
 
The girl didn’t want to press charges. She wanted him out of her life and it over so she entered into a restraining agreement.
Did he break that agreement? Did he stalk her? Her word against his? No charges? No suspension? Maybe Goodwill will punish him now, since he's a Cowboy?
 
Steroids make a man so strange things, nerds and band geeks wouldn't understand.....no offense meant to any nerds or band geeks around here. :lmao:
 
They can count 11 incidents all they want but breaking a key or tossing a phone isn't an incident.

Overblown
 
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