Honestly who's upset with the NT and Safety position

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

I think osa makes hill a cut option. Gallimore and osa at 3t in base 4-3.

I agree I definitely felt like it was more of an indictment on Hill than anyone else

 

[quickccc]

I wouldn’t have mind chancing undersized TCU safety Adarius Washington or DT Marvin Wilson Fla. S tin the 7th round and capturing them before bidding war in undrafted FA.

- But apparently neither one was on Cowboys board and they certainly did not feel obliged to outbid other NFL teams for their services.
I get the feeling that Wilson’s knee is far more concerning and bothersome than what has been let on.

- Glad that mammoth DT Bohanna was brought into the mix, finally drafted a 1 tech hulk prospect in the draft. he’s purely a 1 tech or NT, but that’s all I’d hope for, here’s hoping
he has something worth more than just practice squad hopes.

 

[CouchCoach]

I think osa makes hill a cut option. Gallimore and osa at 3t in base 4-3.

Hill has helped make himself a cut option. Maybe Quinn can light a fire under him because before Frost left him at UCF, he was coming on and emerging.

Something wrong with him. Marinelli comes to his defense and talks them into taking him and even he turned south on him. Maybe what happened at UCF was just an excuse for the lack of heart to do it.

 

[Chuck 54]

Would I have liked for a top FS to fall into our laps? Yes.
Am I upset we didn’t overpay in draft capital for a FS who wasn’t a first round pick value? No.

I would have liked Moehrig or Holland or Grant for the future, but I seriously doubt any of them would be our FS starter over Kazee this year.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Hill has helped make himself a cut option. Maybe Quinn can light a fire under him because before Frost left him at UCF, he was coming on and emerging.

Something wrong with him. Marinelli comes to his defense and talks them into taking him and even he turned south on him. Maybe what happened at UCF was just an excuse for the lack of heart to do it.

The kid just wasnt very good. Idc about all the other nonsense. Never flashed in college or in the pros

 

[dwreck27]

With how many premium picks we had and still not solve the issue is a flat out fail.

 

[DandyDon52]

With how many premium picks we had and still not solve the issue is a flat out fail.

They didnt see it as a big need, thats why they never draft one high, or get a good FA.
Jones boys like the outside guys, like cb's wr's de's etc.

 

[Whyjerry]

I know a lot of members on here kept preaching how this could finally be the year these 2 positions would be addressed and of course we got nothing. Yeah, don't consider a 6th rounder in a weak draft a solution either. Who here is still furious over this?

I am. That 3rd round could have helped big time. Instead we got a small DT with long arms, a nice but limited talent at DE and a tall skinny CB that could have been had in the 7th round. That 3rd round was a disaster.

 

[Zekeats]

I am. That 3rd round could have helped big time. Instead we got a small DT with long arms, a nice but limited talent at DE and a tall skinny CB that could have been had in the 7th round. That 3rd round was a disaster.

I woulda rather had 3 stud rookie starters than 5-6 backup rookies. I would went parson Barmore Holland/mohrig

 

[Ranching]

I know a lot of members on here kept preaching how this could finally be the year these 2 positions would be addressed and of course we got nothing. Yeah, don't consider a 6th rounder in a weak draft a solution either. Who here is still furious over this?

I haven't let football tick me off in four years.

 

[Whyjerry]

I woulda rather had 3 stud rookie starters than 5-6 backup rookies. I would went parson Barmore Holland/mohrig

You are 100 pct correct. Especially considering DT and S being such weak positions.

 

[Cebrin]

I'm more concerned about waiting till the end of the draft to grab a T. If Collins or Smith struggle, so will the offense. The run game has struggled, and it's not 100% on Zeke. We've lost a lot of pieces since our days of dominant ground and pound.

Hopefully Ball can at least provide a good push in the run game. His tape looks stiff.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Yeah I think people are more heartbroken that the Cowboys didn't get a "name" in the 2nd they knew or heard of because next season I see no reason why Kazee wouldn't be better than him.

That's mostly what it is. They see a name from somebody rankings and then take that as truth. It happens everytime Dallas drafts somebody that isn't a known name and they say who is that... that's a terrible pick.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I read somewhere that he benched 420 and squatted 717. --- I have no real clue if this is correct though.
Since most NFL OL bench over 500 and nearly all OL I have see squat over 7......I am not sure how you think he can stand up giving up an avg of 35lbs on every play.
OL- Avg. Height: 76.75 in Avg. Weight: 314.16 lbs
Most IOL are even heavier though with their need to anchor and usually closer to 330lbs and so he would be giving up 50lbs.

I know there are unicorns like Aaron Donald (3T), but the fact is most people less than 300 lbs cannot play the 1T at a high level. They get man handled.

So maybe Jerry found a unicorn, or maybe Woods and Bohanna will end up playing there most of the time and he is the Crawford replacement.

He can most certainty hold up at the 1 tech. He was a 3 time state champion in wrestling. Leverage and great hands is better than just being big.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's mostly what it is. They see a name from somebody rankings and then take that as truth. It happens everytime Dallas drafts somebody that isn't a known name and they say who is that... that's a terrible pick.

Ugh.....man its so annoying lol. Every draft day you hear people spew these names out they rarely if ever said all year in the draft thread....ahh well......



I thought about this during the draft when you see these guys "fall" in the draft. The draft experts on TV claim the person is going to burst on to the scene.....and you never hear from them. There has been a bunch of guys that people have clamored to on this site but two I remember for some reason is Sherriff Floyd and Mo Hurst. Hurst just got cut and we know what happened to Floyd.

I'm gonna try and keep track and see how guys like Barmore and Moehrig do...nothing against them but it seems like those big names that we get pissed we don't grab that fall you never end up hearing from. Of course no one ever admits they were wrong on them though lol.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I think osa makes hill a cut option. Gallimore and osa at 3t in base 4-3.

I don't think Hill gets cut. I think Watkins is for sure gone so is Hamilton. Woods could be the guy that gets cut.

Urban, Osa, Gallimore, Hill, Bohanna is a really good group of DT. They are young but talented.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Ugh.....man its so annoying lol. Every draft day you hear people spew these names out they rarely if ever said all year in the draft thread....ahh well......



I thought about this during the draft when you see these guys "fall" in the draft. The draft experts on TV claim the person is going to burst on to the scene.....and you never hear from them. There has been a bunch of guys that people have clamored to on this site but two I remember for some reason is Sherriff Floyd and Mo Hurst. Hurst just got cut and we know what happened to Floyd.

I'm gonna try and keep track and see how guys like Barmore and Moehrig do...nothing against them but it seems like those big names that we get pissed we don't grab that fall you never end up hearing from. Of course no one ever admits they were wrong on them though lol.

I was thinking to do the same thing. Remember last year they were saying Dallas should face taken Xavier McKinney at 17 instead of Lamb. He went at the top of the 2nd to the Giants. Chinn and Winfield outplayed all safeties their rookie year.

They never say their wrong because nobody holds them accountable and after the draft it just all goes away.

Barmore, Moehrig, McNeil and all 3rd round picks I will be watching

 

[Verdict]

This FO really doesn’t know what it’s doing. Two years ago we reached for Hill while passing on several good starting S. 2 years later we are STILL looking for both! FO needs to understand that it does take time to built a team. Draft the highest rated guy that also fulfill your need this year and if other position of need doesn’t get filled by a late rounder then look in FA or the following year. Don’t window dress your board.

Need is irrelevant when you draft players. We needed Taco. We reached and got a bust.

We needed a DT. We reached for Hill and so far he is a bust. When you draft for need it’s usually a fail.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I was thinking to do the same thing. Remember last year they were saying Dallas should face taken Xavier McKinney at 17 instead of Lamb. He went at the top of the 2nd to the Giants. Chinn and Winfield outplayed all safeties their rookie year.

They never say their wrong because nobody holds them accountable and after the draft it just all goes away.

Barmore, Moehrig, McNeil and all 3rd round picks I will be watching

Ahhh forgot about Xavier McKinney. He was another one.

 

[kskboys]

Hill has helped make himself a cut option. Maybe Quinn can light a fire under him because before Frost left him at UCF, he was coming on and emerging.

Something wrong with him. Marinelli comes to his defense and talks them into taking him and even he turned south on him. Maybe what happened at UCF was just an excuse for the lack of heart to do it.

I think he's too top heavy and lacks balance. Looks OK only against a certain type of player/scheme.