Adding A Wide Nine Package On D Could It Work?

[TheMarathonContinues]

The talent is what’s important
I like Quinn’s scheme but if you look at 49ers their defense wasn’t near as good last year as 2019
The scheme didn’t change so much as the talent changed with all the injuries they had to key defensive players

It did. That Deforest Buckner loss was huge.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I actually agree with that...Pollard is the perfect complement to Zeke...what was your point in posting this lol? I agree with all of it....if you wanted to troll and get me upset you should've came harder than this lol.

Rocyaice: "I agree with all of it"

Good to know you have finally come around. Lets go over some of the main points so we are clear in the future:

1. Pollard is better than Zeke at YAC and breaking tackles
2. Carries should be based on who deserves the carries, not who is paid more
3. Cowboys are in a tough spot with overpaying Zeke
4. Pollard is the more dynamic back than Zeke
5. Zeke is no longer a home run threat and is just a power back
6. Based on the numbers Pollard deserves more carries than he is getting.

I am proud that you finally admitted that you were wrong. Nicely done!!

 

[CowboyRoy]

lol, I know what's not there to disagree with.

Nothing at all not to agree with. The article nails everything. Im glad you agree as well.

1. Pollard is better than Zeke at YAC and breaking tackles
2. Carries should be based on who deserves the carries, not who is paid more
3. Cowboys are in a tough spot with overpaying Zeke
4. Pollard is the more dynamic back than Zeke
5. Zeke is no longer a home run threat and is just a power back
6. Based on the numbers Pollard deserves more carries than he is getting.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Right. I mean I get what he's trying to do. I guess because I have disagreements with him about Zeke that he thought i'd disagree but I mean he quoted a very fair statement. He complements Zeke well and he's underrated....hell even Zeke himself would admit that.

I says a lot more then that. But I am glad you agree.

And actually it doenst say that he is the perfect compliment, he says that some would argue that. Which to a certain extent I think they do compliment each other well. Just not 80/20 compliment. More like 60-40 or 50/50.

And certainly zeke isnt worth what we are paying him. More to come.........stay tuned.

 

[Dre11]

Right. I mean I get what he's trying to do. I guess because I have disagreements with him about Zeke that he thought i'd disagree but I mean he quoted a very fair statement. He complements Zeke well and he's underrated....hell even Zeke himself would admit that.

Right, Zeke props up Pollard every chance he gets

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Rocyaice: "I agree with all of it"

Good to know you have finally come around. Lets go over some of the main points so we are clear in the future:

1. Pollard is better than Zeke at YAC and breaking tackles
2. Carries should be based on who deserves the carries, not who is paid more
3. Cowboys are in a tough spot with overpaying Zeke
4. Pollard is the more dynamic back than Zeke
5. Zeke is no longer a home run threat and is just a power back
6. Based on the numbers Pollard deserves more carries than he is getting.

I am proud that you finally admitted that you were wrong. Nicely done!!

I did not say I agreed with you. I said I agreed with what you posted.....I can't stand behind your reading comprehension....only a fool would. I agree with what you quoted.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I says a lot more then that. But I am glad you agree.

And actually it doenst say that he is the perfect compliment, he says that some would argue that. Which to a certain extent I think they do compliment each other well. Just not 80/20 compliment. More like 60-40 or 50/50.

And certainly zeke isnt worth what we are paying him. More to come.........stay tuned.

Once again...you are arguing with yourself lol. I think you somehow got lost on this site about how people really feel about Zeke.

I'm glad you agree with me on Zeke...that's a start anyway...

There’s an argument to be made that Pollard is simply the perfect complement to Elliott rather than the better overall running back.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I did not say I agreed with you. I said I agreed with what you posted.....I can't stand behind your reading comprehension....only a fool would. I agree with what you quoted.

You said "I agree with all of it" after reading the article. Are you going to lie now?

I agree with all of it....if you wanted to troll and get me upset you should've came harder than this lol.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Once again...you are arguing with yourself lol. I think you somehow got lost on this site about how people really feel about Zeke.

I'm glad you agree with me on Zeke...that's a start anyway...

There’s an argument to be made that Pollard is simply the perfect complement to Elliott rather than the better overall running back.

Yep and all this too, which you said you agreed with:

1. Pollard is better than Zeke at YAC and breaking tackles
2. Carries should be based on who deserves the carries, not who is paid more
3. Cowboys are in a tough spot with overpaying Zeke
4. Pollard is the more dynamic back than Zeke
5. Zeke is no longer a home run threat and is just a power back
6. Based on the numbers Pollard deserves more carries than he is getting.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You said "I agree with all of it" after reading the article. Are you going to lie now?

I agree with all of it....if you wanted to troll and get me upset you should've came harder than this lol.

No I read what you posted. I did not read the article. When I said I agree with all of it i'm specifically saying what you quoted.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yep and all this too, which you said you agreed with:

1. Pollard is better than Zeke at YAC and breaking tackles
2. Carries should be based on who deserves the carries, not who is paid more
3. Cowboys are in a tough spot with overpaying Zeke
4. Pollard is the more dynamic back than Zeke
5. Zeke is no longer a home run threat and is just a power back
6. Based on the numbers Pollard deserves more carries than he is getting.

Once again....I don't understand why anyone or myself would agree with the above. Its not even a insult to Zeke lol.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Well, I think we should just allow the new DC to implement his own system before we all start telling him what he needs to do, based on our own personal, no NFL experience, opinions. For the record, the Seattle Scheme, which is what I believe we will be running this year, already uses variations of Wide 9 with the LEO.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No I read what you posted. I did not read the article. When I said I agree with all of it i'm specifically saying what you quoted.

LOL........who is playing games now? Here is what I posted. I even dummied down the reading with highlights:

Here’s what Sam Monson wrote recently for Pro Football Focus after pointing out Pollard as the Cowboys’ most underrated player …

“The Dallas Cowboys are in a tough spot. By handing Ezekiel Elliott the contract they did, it is very difficult for them to reduce his role to the level it should be based on how Pollard has performed when given the opportunity. Since being drafted, Pollard is tied with Derrick Henry for the best yards after contact average in the league (4.0) and tied with Nick Chubb for the best broken tackle rate (0.25).”

There’s an argument to be made that Pollard is simply the perfect complement to Elliott rather than the better overall running back. Tony is the more dynamic runner at this point in Zeke’s career, with the latter being more of a power back now than a home run threat.

Still, the numbers bear out that Pollard deserves to carry more of the load in Dallas. That’s despite Elliott’s contract that’s scheduled to make a $13.7 million-sized dent in the team’s salary cap in 2021 according to spotrac.com.

 

[conner01]

It did. That Deforest Buckner loss was huge.

Bosa and Thomas were huge
They lost some serious defensive talent to injury last year

 

[Starforever]

You said "if it doesnt lead to a championship its useless". So no one can talk about the defense, the offense, a great QB, great RB play, improvements, ect.....ect...?

Because "who cares if it doesn't lead to a championship"?

Wrong, I said the rankings are all meaningless. Everything you mentioned, is discussed on this site daily, so why would I try to damper "football talk"?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Once again....I don't understand why anyone or myself would agree with the above. Its not even a insult to Zeke lol.

If you think this article is a compliment to Zeke, then you are really whacked. LOL

It is clearly complimenting Pollard at Zeke's expense. The OBVIOUS point is that we need more pollard and less zeke. And that its tough because of the big dumb contract we gave Zeke.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Wrong, I said the rankings are all meaningless. Everything you mentioned, is discussed on this site daily, so why would I try to damper "football talk"?

So you dont think it matters that our defense was ranked the worst in NFL history in the early part of last year?

Not going to win a championship that way. After all, its all that matter right?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Once again....I don't understand why anyone or myself would agree with the above. Its not even a insult to Zeke lol.

Yet this whole conversation started because you got upset when I mentioned that you are were a big Zeke fan.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

The Eagles ran a very wide nine many years ago. I think they had mixed success and then it all fell apart. Don’t remember if it was scheme or talent.

It was very successful and it was actually not all that long ago, but maybe that's relative. It was under Jimmy Johnson that the Eagles ran Wide 9 a lot. Johnson, who actually coached in Seattle, prior to coming to the Eagles, I believe, used Wide 9 to bring pressure and allow his Defense to create mismatches in other areas via blitz. Wide 9 makes you adjust anyway but when you dial up blitz from a different sector, it really creates a lot of issues with your blocking scheme. So, like our new scheme, and really and scheme, you have to have the personnel to run it. That's really an all the time thing so they go hand in hand.

 

[Starforever]

So you dont think it matters that our defense was ranked the worst in NFL history in the early part of last year?

Not going to win a championship that way. After all, its all that matter right?

You may have a redundancy issue. Were they the worst defense in NFL history, and did the team with the greatest defense last year, win the championship?