Twitter: Robinson Back to CB per Fish

[OmerV]

I made my point clear.



No, it occurred because they had no system. And simply allowed that coordinator the decision-making ability, which they’ve continued to do. And that’s why they missed on better talent and why they’re once again sitting on players that don’t fit.



And I don’t think we ever see him on the field in a regular season game before he’s cut. Another player caught in the wash of ever-changing coaches, schemes, and physical requirements.

Do you really think Jerry gave Marinelli (or Nolan or Quinn) free, unrestricted authority to draft whoever he wanted? That's contrary to everything we know about Jerry.

As for Anae, you may be right about him getting cut without seeing him on the field. My comments have acknowledged that possibility. But, again, him not playing last year was not the result of "ever-changing coaches, schemes, and physical requirements". Last year he was with the coaches and schemes that were in place when he was drafted, and he still didn't play.

But I still disagree with the notion that Quinn will cut him just because he is a different coach and the scheme will change. No coach is going to turn their back on a good pass rusher for that reason.

 

[Stash]

Do you really think Jerry gave Marinelli (or Nolan or Quinn) free, unrestricted authority to draft whoever he wanted? That's contrary to everything we know about Jerry.

He certainly did for Taco and Hill. Unless people want to try to practice willful ignorance about that.

As for Anae, you may be right about him getting cut without seeing him on the field. My comments have acknowledged that possibility. But, again, him not playing last year was not the result of "ever-changing coaches, schemes, and physical requirements". Last year he was with the coaches and schemes that were in place when he was drafted, and he still didn't play.

No, that’s true. But my point is that he may be cut and we’ll get net zero contributions from that 2020 draft pick. Or picks.

But I still disagree with the notion that Quinn will cut him just because he is a different coach and the scheme will change. No coach is going to turn their back on a good pass rusher for that reason.

I agree about that. I just think it’s unfortunate and a waste of resources when requirements change so frequently and players get caught between them.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Just cut the guy already. They obviously aren't impressed. What did they draft him for? What was the plan for him when they scouted this guy and targeted him? Another position flex type bust for the Cowboys. What round was this kid drafted?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I wouldn't say that.

People say that about Byron....but at the end of the day when they drafted Byron he was raw......and by the time he was done here he was one of the better corners in the league. Who's to say that position switch and journey he went on didn't help him?

You could say it, but its no likely. Jones was a guy that was good at sticking to his man one on one. Didnt have great instincts, wasnt a big hitter, didnt have that 6th sense to be a good safety. Terrible ball skills.

If he is left on an island to mirror one guy then he is great. Its pretty obvious they just had him at the wrong position. However, he was raw and may have needed a year to develop anyway.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Byron was an "elite talent" and he was passable as a safety.

Byron wasn't "elite talent". When you have one pick in 5 years, there is nothing elite about you. Good cover corner for a few years.

 

[DanA]

I wouldn't sleep on Reggie Robinson too much. He might not have a sponsor in the coaching group but he plays the way Dan Quinn wants his corners to play. He's got great ball skills, is super aggressive at the LOS with the ability to jam his opponents and at 6'1 205lbs he's not exactly undersized. He was also a very good special teams player in college. I could easily see him fight himself into a backup outside corner and special teams gunner.

 

[DanA]

Byron wasn't "elite talent". When you have one pick in 5 years, there is nothing elite about you. Good cover corner for a few years.

Not too sure about this. If you were a first round pick, athletically test as one of the best combines in the history of the NFL, make a pro-bowl, and then become the highest paid corner in the NFL.......you can probably call yourself an elite talent.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Not too sure about this. If you were a first round pick, athletically test as one of the best combines in the history of the NFL, make a pro-bowl, and then become the highest paid corner in the NFL.......you can probably call yourself an elite talent.

Elite athlete maybe. Did parlay his play into a great contract. Not sure those have ever been qualification for elite talent. To me he lacks the instincts and ball skills to be considered elite. Didnt have a great year in Miami last year.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Not too sure about this. If you were a first round pick, athletically test as one of the best combines in the history of the NFL, make a pro-bowl, and then become the highest paid corner in the NFL.......you can probably call yourself an elite talent.

Naw man elite talent is Aaron Donald. Guys of his caliber.

 

[DanA]

Naw man elite talent is Aaron Donald. Guys of his caliber.

The only guy of Aaron Donald's calibre is Aaron Donald. He's not just elite, he's a generational talent.....there hasn't been a guy as good as him play for over a decade.

 

[Bullflop]

It's fair to say that the 2020 defense under Nolan wasn't handled wisely. That includes the decision to switch Robinson to safety. It might be fair to say that he'll be judged upon his ability to play as a CB from now on. If Robinson's safety experience is to be relegated to the past. let's hope he's better off in the end. It worked for Byron Jones; perhaps it'll work for him, as well. Evidently, we'll see about that.

 

[DuncanIso]

This is good news and could turn around his career here in Dallas. Quinn’s scheme is more simplified for corners.

Has 4.4 speed too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Robinson

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

The only guy of Aaron Donald's calibre is Aaron Donald. He's not just elite, he's a generational talent.....there hasn't been a guy as good as him play for over a decade.

No....Jaylen Ramsey is a elite talent. Zack Martin is a elite talent. Aaron Donald is not the only elite player in the NFL lol.

 

[OmerV]

He certainly did for Taco and Hill. Unless people want to try to practice willful ignorance about that.

In the absence of someone within the organization actually admitting Marinelli was given full control over those draft picks with no review or discussion from anyone else, then all any fan can do is speculate, and that includes you and I. I know you are confident in your position, and I can't absolutely say you are wrong, but it's still an opinion and not indisputable fact.

No, that’s true. But my point is that he may be cut and we’ll get net zero contributions from that 2020 draft pick. Or picks.

It's true that there is the possibility we may not get a contribution from that particular 2020 pick, and while it will be a disappointment if we don't, 5th rounders aren't sure things for any team.

I'm not sure what you meant by your addition of "Or picks". Obviously Lamb made a big contribution. Diggs made a contribution, and although he still has some developing to do, I think he could be pretty good. Gallimore showed flashes, but it will take time to tell what we have with him. Biadasz held up pretty well in the playing time he got. Overall, it will still take time to know for sure, but the 2020 draft class appears to have the chance to be a good one. And really that's how you judge a team on it's drafting - how the overall draft class turns out, not on whether every single pick worked out well. That's not realistically how it works.

I agree about that. I just think it’s unfortunate and a waste of resources when requirements change so frequently and players get caught between them.

Obviously this can happen, and the Cowboys aren't the only team that changes coaches and schemes, but still confused on your talking about Anae in this way when the guys that set those requirements and that drafted him are the ones that chose not to play him. It seems like above you are saying it may have just been a bad pick, and here you are saying Anae got caught up in a bad situation where requirments changed.

 

[Stash]

In the absence of someone within the organization actually admitting Marinelli was given full control over those draft picks with no review or discussion from anyone else, then all any fan can do is speculate, and that includes you and I. I know you are confident in your position, and I can't absolutely say you are wrong, but it's still an opinion and not indisputable fact.


It's true that there is the possibility we may not get a contribution from that particular 2020 pick, and while it will be a disappointment if we don't, 5th rounders aren't sure things for any team. I'm not sure what you meant by your addition of "Or picks". Obviously Lamb made a big contribution. Diggs made a contribution, and although he still has some developing to do, I think he could be pretty good. Gallimore showed flashes, but it will take time to tell what we have with him. Biadasz held up pretty well in the playing time he got. Overall, it will still take time to know for sure, but the 2020 draft class appears to have the chance to be a good one. And really that's how you judge a team on it's drafting - how the overall draft class turns out, not on whether every single pick worked out well. That's not realistically how it works.


In the absence of someone witin the organization actually admitting Marinelli was given fully control over those draft picks with no review or discussion from anyone else, then you and I and any other fan can only speculate. Regardless of your confidence in your position, I don't buy someone presenting what is only an opinion as if it is an indisputable fact, and that's what you are doing.

You do whatever you need to in order for you to feel better.

 

[kskboys]

The only guy of Aaron Donald's calibre is Aaron Donald. He's not just elite, he's a generational talent.....there hasn't been a guy as good as him play for over a decade.

There are actually several who are close, Aaron gets the press. Jurrell Casey, Cam Hayward, and yes, Suh. Gino Atkins was maybe must a tic below til he got old, but played for Cincy so no one knew him. Fletcher Cox, Calais Campbell, both close.

JJ Watt was prolly better than Donald before injuries derailed his career.

 

[kskboys]

Has 4.4 speed too

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reggie_Robinson

And can't cover.

This most likely means he'll be cut or PSed.

 

[OmerV]

You do whatever you need to in order for you to feel better.

What was the point of this comment? I wasn't being a jerk, so why do you find it important for you to be one?

This is just attacking me, not the content of what I wrote.

 

[Stash]

What was the point of this comment? I wasn't being a jerk, so why do you find it important for you to be one?

Sure you were. You’re the guy trying to rewrite history and put up Strawman arguments about things I never said. You don’t now get to play some victim.

This is just attacking me, not the content of what I wrote.

It’s stating the obvious is what it is.

 

[OmerV]

Sure you were. You’re the guy trying to rewrite history and put up Strawman arguments about things I never said. You don’t now get to play some victim.

Opinions aren't history. They are attempts to explain history that cannot be verified.

What can be verified, and therefore is history, is that Taco and Hill were drafted by the Cowboys. The idea that Jerry, Stephen and Will McClay had no say or input or ability to go a different path is not history, it is an opinion that attempts to explain why Taco and Hill were drafted.

For a person to be incapable of saying "this is what I think happened" and instead presents things they have no direct knowledge or verifiable proof of as "this is what indisputably happened", indicates a person who is incapable of reasonable, fair minded discussion.

As for playing the victim, it's hilarious you imagine yourself having that kind of power. I said you were being a jerk, not that I was victimized by you being a jerk.

It appears you have a ridiculous superiority complex to believe an opinion is elevated to indisputable fact by virtue of it being your opinion, and to think people feel victimized by you.

It’s stating the obvious is what it is.

Still, no content.

ad hominem: (of an argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.