Still hard for Cowboys to win with Jones style ownership

[Diehardblues]

Thats the problem. Jerry has hired idiot coaches like Wade and Garrett to run their football teams and then drafts and resigns dopes like Zeke and Jaylon.

It goes even deeper than that. It’s the fact we don’t have a full time GM who’s held to the same accountability around the league , then undermines whatever coaching staff is in place with the endless pursuit of being the face of the franchise.

It’s simply not an environment set up for success on the football field.

 

[tyke1doe]

Or the coaches could do their jobs and players earn their salaries meh

There's a reason why Chick-fil-A gives stupendous service and has lines out the parking lot (especially during the Pandemic), when Taco Bell, Wendy's and McDonald's have empty parking lots.

It has to do with the tone set at the TOP, which filters down and throughout the chain. Truett Cathy has created a culture where even when people should be saving, they're gladly spending their money and enduring long lines to purchase his product.

Chick-fil-A's service is so far and above other restaurants', that even when they make mistakes with my order, I end up apologizing to them.

Individual managers and employees (or coaches and players) aren't the ones who set the culture for an organization. The corporate headquarters does that.

Jerry Jones is the corporate headquarters, so to speak. He is the owner, the CEO and his tone filters down through the entire organization.

There's a reason we haven't sniffed a Super Bowl in 25 years, and it's not the coaches not coaching and the players not playing. Rather, it's the owner who can't identify a coach who can coach and identify players who can transcend the culture and play DESPITE the owner - something that is the responsibility of Jerry, not the players, even though they have their individual parts to play.

25 years of futility. Coaches have come and gone. Players have come and gone. Guess who has been here throughout those 25 years?

 

[Sydla]

For me I am Happy because I get to route for Dak. . so for me Jerry is Good in my book

Because without Jerry Dak never would have happened

So to be clear here.............. despite the fact Jerry has been the GM for a 25 year run that has resulted in only 4 total playoff wins, you are happy with Jerry because he drafted Dak Prescott?

Hopefully I am misreading your point here.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I’m not sure anyone is capable in this environment?

Idiot coaches are part of Jerry's environment.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

It's like the Rams game last year just didn't happen isn't it? The only defense we played with a pulse held us to 17 points.

Well, yeah, La’el Collins was out and Tyron had a pain in his neck. Dak and Co. can only do so much on offense. Can’t work miracles

That is why you ‘pay da man.’ That is what so many posters here say. $40M = 40-burgers. Get ready to feast.

 

[Sydla]

@Diehardblues Did you not see the thread with the Cowboys having the #3 offense, behind only KC and GB?

Dak and Co. are capable of laying 40-burgers on any defense. Which defense do you have stopping this offense?

If Dak and Co, produce then it is game over, right? Why are you focused on Jerry and not the players?

Ummmmm............. because while this team was running up big offensive numbers last year, even with Dalton at times, the defense was getting gutted and losing us games. And who decided that Nolan was the right hire? And who assembled a defense that unless one is a total homer, most would admit was lacking in playmaking talent?

 

[Diehardblues]

See what? What will I see these players do?

If you can’t see the negative impact the culture our ownership creates has on our players then I can’t help you.

 

[CowboyRoy]

It goes even deeper than that. It’s the fact we don’t have a full time GM who’s held to the same accountability around the league , then undermines whatever coaching staff is in place with the endless pursuit of being the face of the franchise.

It’s simply not an environment set up for success on the football field.

Yep, and then when you hire chumps like Garrett, it makes it all that much worse. Now when you hire guys like Jimmy or maybe a Parcells, things change because they are REAL football people and Jerry respects what they want.

 

[Sydla]

Is Stephen really such a dufus though? He was the one who said to pass on Johnny Football and to draft the best available O-lineman instead.

Maybe but then again Stephen is the one who has shifted the Cowboys philosophy in FA to signing crap, bargain bin guys for cheap that have rarely helped the team. He's also the guy who once argued we were fine at WR with guys like Allen Hurns (before they had to panic and trade for Cooper).

 

[Diehardblues]

Idiot coaches are part of Jerry's environment.

Yep. But even with coaches like Parcells this era who I wouldn’t call an idiot, not anymore success than the puppets.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Ummmmm............. because while this team was running up big offensive numbers last year, even with Dalton at times, the defense was getting gutted and losing us games. And who decided that Nolan was the right hire? And who assembled a defense that unless one is a total homer, most would admit was lacking in playmaking talent?

McCarthy brought Nolan. Does the HC not get to choose his DC? McCarthy and Nolan assembled that defense. The players also failed to tackle, failed to cover, failed to know their assignments, etc.

 

[CouchCoach]

That’s exactly the mentality our owner would prefer everyone taking.

And what's the alternative? Rail against what will not change?

You want him held accountable, just how do you plan on accomplishing that? When he got that stadium, he became bulletproof.

Once the inevitable is embraced, it becomes easier to manage. Accept what is and try and make the best of it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yep. But even with coaches like Parcells this era who I wouldn’t call an idiot, not anymore success than the puppets.

I was NOT a big Parcells fan. Hated him actually. And to top it off, he quit just when things were getting good. Parcells number one issue was his QB. As soon as Romo became a starter, he quit. Dumb move. Then we went back to the dummy puppets like Wade and Garrett.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yep, and then when you hire chumps like Garrett, it makes it all that much worse. Now when you hire guys like Jimmy or maybe a Parcells, things change because they are REAL football people and Jerry respects what they want.

The Jimmy era was different. Jimmy was like the GM too. Jethro wasn’t undermining him.

Not until we won back to backs and he didn’t receive the credit he was looking for. That was the beginning of the end of this franchise. It’s never been the same.

And in the end with Bill, while I’d agree with your overall thought, Jethro undermined again. There just isn’t going to be the kind of culture needed with our biggest idiot.

 

[Diehardblues]

I was NOT a big Parcells fan. Hated him actually. And to top it off, he quit just when things were getting good. Parcells number one issue was his QB. As soon as Romo became a starter, he quit. Dumb move. Then we went back to the dummy puppets like Wade and Garrett.

But the reason he quit was or still is our core problem.

 

[Sydla]

McCarthy brought Nolan. Does the HC not get to choose his DC? McCarthy and Nolan assembled that defense. The players also failed to tackle, failed to cover, failed to know their assignments, etc.

You think McCarthy hired Nolan without approval from Jerry? Someone hasn't been paying attention to how Jerry and company have operated for the last few decades.

And no, McCarthy and Nolan didn't assemble that defense. Jerry did. He's the GM and he's been clear he makes personnel decisions. To try to absolve Jerry from talent problems and blame Nolan or McCarthy is one of the more laughable things uttered here.

Jerry is the single biggest reason we have 4 playoff wins in 25 years. He has picked the players. He's picked the coaches (including assistant coaches). It's preposterous to try to argue otherwise.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The Jimmy era was different. Jimmy was like the GM too. Jethro wasn’t undermining him.

Not until we won back to backs and he didn’t receive the credit he was looking for. That was the beginning of the end of this franchise. It’s never been the same.

And in the end with Bill, while I’d agree with your overall thought, Jethro undermined again. There just isn’t going to be the kind of culture needed with our biggest idiot.

Of course the Jimmy era was different. Jimmy wasnt a puppet. EVERY other coach after Jimmy was a puppet. Other than Parcells.

MM I dont see as a puppet. So we shall see how THAT goes.

 

[kskboys]

It's amazing how Cowboy fans forget that 18 out of 32 teams, more than half, have been waiting for a Super Bowl win longer than the Cowboys. They are all trying their hardest to win but each year you have 31 other organizations battling against you. Are the owners of those 18 also inately incompetent?

So, you're saying that it's OK that we lose because other teams lose? Strange logic.

 

[Diehardblues]

And what's the alternative? Rail against what will not change?

You want him held accountable, just how do you plan on accomplishing that? When he got that stadium, he became bulletproof.

Once the inevitable is embraced, it becomes easier to manage. Accept what is and try and make the best of it.

You have to choose for yourself the best path.

Personally, I believe far too many fans are sympathetic to our owner for the early success. And in some ways support him.

I’d prefer more fans speaking out like Troy and others have done making it as uncomfortable as possible for him. At least making him squirm possibly forcing alternative decisions. But ultimately the only pressure he listens to are financially which the fans have miserably failed.

 

[CowboyRoy]

But the reason he quit was or still is our core problem.

This is always the same thing with you. You dont seem intelligent enough to realize I am agreeing with you on the Jerry sucks thing.

One of the reasons Jerry sucks is because he hires idiots like Garrett and Wade.