Video: Murray led the NFL in yards, then retired after only 3 more seasons. What happened?

Diehardblues

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What are the odds that Garrett gets another HC job in the next 5 years?
Depends on success in NY.

Most likely OC is best suited for him but you never know the way HC turn over. If NY turns the corner with Jones at QB and that offense he will be offered a job . If not he could be on the street.

Remember this era ( not counting Jimmy of course) that no HC after leaving Dallas was offered another HC job except Gailey. But it took him almost a decade at Georgia Tech before Bills gave him a shot.
 

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Depends on success in NY.

Most likely OC is best suited for him but you never know the way HC turn over. If NY turns the corner with Jones at QB and that offense he will be offered a job . If not he could be on the street.

Remember this era ( not counting Jimmy of course) that no HC after leaving Dallas was offered another HC job except Gailey. But it took him almost a decade at Georgia Tech before Bills gave him a shot.

I agree. Unless Giants and their offense have big success Garrett is probably done as a HC. I actually think he is a worse OC than a HC.

But again.............Garrett isnt helpless there. He has an opportunity to have a huge impact on the success of the Giants by doing a great job with the offense. I have my doubts.

As far as HC having success after Dallas I think that is a indictment of Jerry and his affinity to poorly choose the guys to lead his football teams. He is just bad at picking a HC.
 

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I agree. Unless Giants and their offense have big success Garrett is probably done as a HC. I actually think he is a worse OC than a HC.

As far as HC having success after Dallas I think that is a indictment of Jerry and his affinity to poorly choose the guys to lead his football teams. He is just bad at picking a HC.
I’m not sure Jethro even tries picking a good HC . With exception of Bill and Jimmy of course.

Instead he looks for someone who will suk up to him and his ways. Last thing he wants is a HC who will become the face of the Cowboys and gain more credit than him.

He tried that already and didn’t like it parting ways after back to back championships.
 

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Yup. Even I wouldn't have taken the Cowboys offer, and I'm the one always talking about not taking more. Philly offered too much more. And then tried to make a great inside runner into an outside runner!!!! Was Garrett coaching them too?
yeah I was shocked at how they used murray, when cowboys played them I felt sorry for DM.
Was Garrett coaching them too?......no just another moron lol
 

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I always found it funny when Murray tried to get all mad at the Eagles management. It's like dude you willingly knew that they had 2 other pro bowl runningbacks on there roster (meaning you weren't going to get 300 carries) and that there offense ran mostly out of shotgun.

You willingly followed the money instead of following what was best for your accolades/stats, don't act like you where jipped
 

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I always found it funny when Murray tried to get all mad at the Eagles management. It's like dude you willingly knew that they had 2 other pro bowl runningbacks on there roster (meaning you weren't going to get 300 carries) and that there offense ran mostly out of shotgun.

You willingly followed the money instead of following what was best for your accolades/stats, don't act like you where jipped
He got offered $20 million guaranteed. HE would have been a total fool to pass that up. We did not even offer half of that guaranteed- I think it was like $8 million. Do agree that he SHOULD have known what he was getting into. But I think this was a case where he saw all that money and said what the hell. How many here honestly they could have made another choice? Murray had to figure this was his ONLY chance at the big money.
 

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He got offered $20 million guaranteed. HE would have been a total fool to pass that up. We did not even offer half of that guaranteed- I think it was like $8 million. Do agree that he SHOULD have known what he was getting into. But I think this was a case where he saw all that money and said what the hell. How many here honestly they could have made another choice? Murray had to figure this was his ONLY chance at the big money.
Yeah I don't blame him, Eagles where offering double of Cowboys,Jags, and Raiders. He knew though that he was selling out but then later tried to try to save face and act like it was the front offices fault he wasn't getting those all pro touches (it's like no you chased the money at the expensive of stats/accolades, front office wasn't jipping you if anything they overpaid for a injury prone player that peaked at his contract year)
 

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We gave him over 700 touches in 2 seasons. Not to mention the fact that at Oklahoma he had over 900 touches. He made a bit more out of his career than he probably should have. Would he have been better off either staying in Dallas or going to a place with a better fit right away instead of going to Philly? Yeah but he was given the guaranteed money. But it's not surprising he didn't have a lot more years after he left Dallas. Still got a 1000 yard season which led to the Titans having their best season in like 5 years.
 

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I thought the Jones’s were becoming smart then they went right back to being stupid with contracts.
 

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Yeah I don't blame him, Eagles where offering double of Cowboys,Jags, and Raiders. He knew though that he was selling out but then later tried to try to save face and act like it was the front offices fault he wasn't getting those all pro touches (it's like no you chased the money at the expensive of stats/accolades, front office wasn't jipping you if anything they overpaid for a injury prone player that peaked at his contract year)
I find it funny that when he left he found his home run ability again that he lost after his rookie season.
 

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anybody with a workload of almost 450 touches (playoffs combined) wears their body down
 

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yep............him and Garrett blew it by thinking some scrub could come in and do what Murray did. Then they went waaay the other way the next year and blew the 4th pick in the draft on a RB when Ramsey was sitting there.
This "any RB will do" garbage is fan spew, completely idiotic that Jerry bought into it.
 

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So was the idea of RBBC, it was just as dumb as to why they did not try to replace him. Well they did, they thought McFadden would help with the RBBC.
However that led to them drafting Zeke, so it worked out eventually.


RBBC is the way to go. They won what with Zeke exactly, what exactly has worked out? and McFadden had a thousand yards. Multiple backs. and not paying 1. If this team is ever going to win, that's how it'll happen. Murray simply wasn't worth the money, just like Zeke isn't right now.
 

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Let's count how many backs Bellichick has blown through. Paying 1 back is flat out ridiculous at this point. Everyone wonders what BB would do with other aspects, yet don't heed a huge part of his scheme.. Multiple backs running and catching at all times. He burns through them as this team should be doing. That's just how it is today if you want to build other areas of your football team. Cap dollars at RB make little sense at this point. When you really need major upgrades elsewhere.

The one back formula is nearly dead. But people still cling to it for some reason? Cowboys need to start utilizing multiple backs more than they do.
 

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Let's count how many backs Bellichick has blown through. Paying 1 back is flat out ridiculous at this point. Everyone wonders what BB would do with other aspects, yet don't heed a huge aspect.. Multiple backs running and catching at all times. He burns through them as this team should be doing. That's just how it is today if you want to build other areas of your football team. Cap dollars at RB make little sense at this point. When you really need major upgrades elsewhere.
The fact that he is the only one who really has been able to do that clearly passes you buy, doesn't it?

RBBC has worked exactly where else?

Come on,, I am waiting....
 

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Let's count how many backs Bellichick has blown through. Paying 1 back is flat out ridiculous at this point. Everyone wonders what BB would do with other aspects, yet don't heed a huge part of his scheme.. Multiple backs running and catching at all times. He burns through them as this team should be doing. That's just how it is today if you want to build other areas of your football team. Cap dollars at RB make little sense at this point. When you really need major upgrades elsewhere.

The one back formula is nearly dead. But people still cling to it for some reason? Cowboys need to start utilizing multiple backs more than they do.
Chiefs have a feature back. GB has a feature back. That's 2 of the 4 in the champ games last year.

Basically, most teams either have a feature back or are looking for one. It's not as dead as you think. TENN(of course), NO, MINN, Rams, LV, CLEV, JAX, INDY, DALL, CINCY, CHI, CAR, BALT, ARI, SF, PITT, PHILLY, NYG: All have feature backs.

I'm curious. Where did you get the idea teams no longer use feature backs? Most do. And most that don't are looking for one. It's called a starter, and having a quality starter at any position is desirable.

Basically, the formula is to have a feature back, a decent backup to give your feature back a break, and a scatback. That's the desirable formula.
 

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The fact that he is the only one who really has been able to do that clearly passes you buy, doesn't it?

RBBC has worked exactly where else?

Come on,, I am waiting....
It just worked for TB last year.
 

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The fact that he is the only one who really has been able to do that clearly passes you buy, doesn't it?

RBBC has worked exactly where else?

Come on,, I am waiting....


How many teams are spending at RB? lol How often does that work? It's flat out stupid. The chiefs use multiple backs. Then you probably ***** and moan when this team sucks in other areas. Better you give me the list of when paying 1 RB has really been the best route?? LOL Pretty much every team regrets it. Highest paid back in football. A top notch line at one point before they were wasted, yet couldn't build the other side of the football??? lmao Wasting countless players with a lost formula in the salary cap age. A guy who can't break a run longer than 30 yards. Highest paid RB in the history of football? is now a necessary tool?

Like I said Murray wasn't worth it, Gurley wasn't worth it and Zeke certainly isn't worth it. Some can't seem to handle that. But again I'm sure you'll cry about the parts of the team that are flat out terrible. Highest paid RB in the league can't even fix it???
 

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Chiefs have a feature back. GB has a feature back. That's 2 of the 4 in the champ games last year.

Basically, most teams either have a feature back or are looking for one. It's not as dead as you think. TENN(of course), NO, MINN, Rams, LV, CLEV, JAX, INDY, DALL, CINCY, CHI, CAR, BALT, ARI, SF, PITT, PHILLY, NYG: All have feature backs.

I'm curious. Where did you get the idea teams no longer use feature backs? Most do. And most that don't are looking for one. It's called a starter, and having a quality starter at any position is desirable.

Basically, the formula is to have a feature back, a decent backup to give your feature back a break, and a scatback. That's the desirable formula.


2 guys Cook and Henry got more than 300 carries. 8 backs hovering around 240 and the rest under 200. Kareem Hunt 198 attempts, Chubb, 190. Where's the lead back there. Hot hand. Jones had 201 carries last year. A guy in that 300+ is not needed. CEH 180. These are not feature back numbers. Cook and Henry are the only 2 everyone else is divvying up the workload. That's 2 teams in the 300 club and if the offense wasn't decimated it would be 3 with Elliott. Then we'll see how often he pulls himself out of games afterwords. It's really been working great!

Chiefs. 2018 Kerrem Hunt, 2019 Damian Williams then rookie Clyde Edwards Helaire in 2020. Lead back with a rookie salary who will be shown the door when the time comes. That's 3 seasons of Chiefs football. 3 different backs and now they hand it to the lowest paid and build other areas. Not draft a guy, think they have the greatest RB in history, then pay him as such when the time comes.
 
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