Who else is still riding the high of Jason Garret being gone?

TequilaCowboy

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It's not gone and never will be. Every high-level executive is named Jones and their positions are not based on performance.

Garrett was just one in a long line of symptoms of this organizational structure. Win or lose, nothing changes.

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Of that group, i feel Charlotte is the most intelligent of them all. She would know when she is over her head and would hire qualified coaches or staff to handle it. Sure, she will oversee, but in the background as it should be. Instead we have Stevie, the boy wonder. He wonders what the heck to do when he officially takes over.
 

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I agree with you.. Garret was incapable of being consistent with in game management, he was horrible. This is where I think Big Mike is much better! He is willing to actually gameplan for the opponent and switch things up. I don't think you can look at last year with all the injuries and a lack of training camp and off season and properly appreciate how Big Mike operates.
the issue I had most with garrett and I supported him for while, until it became too much. he very often made the wrong call at the wrong time during a game. he would outsmart himself many times. he would be stubborn at others. his game planning was whole other issue....
 

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What’s really sad for Cowboy fans is Garrett’s tenure was arguably the best in last 25 years.

As OC and HC he was part of all of our division titles and playoff wins bringing us closer to a championship game since our 90’s dynasty era.

Only time will tell if it goes up or down from here.
 

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the issue I had most with garrett and I supported him for while, until it became too much. he very often made the wrong call at the wrong time during a game. he would outsmart himself many times. he would be stubborn at others. his game planning was whole other issue....
You nailed it, Garret was incredibly stubborn and 9 out of 10 times he screwed the pooch! When our online was at it's best, forcing the run enabled us to beat some teams we otherwise probably shouldn't have, but I'll give him credit for some small successes. The biggest thing that aggravated me when it came to the freckled puppet was his lack of imagination in terms of half time adjustments. It would send me into a tissy watching other teams devising creative adjustments and watching him do nothing! Then on top of that we had to watch him clapping all the time when things were going rough.
 

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Garrett was just horrible. It's so obvious watching even a couple of press conferences how much better McCarthy is. McCarthy may not be a Landry or Shula or Belichick, but at least he's a genuine, competent, authentic coach and not a grinning nepotistic politician hoping to fool everyone while he tries to figure it out on the job.
 

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Garrett is a great example of the frustration for Cowboy fans in Jethro's puppet era.

I think the fact his tenure was so much longer than the other puppets he gained more vitriol and resentment from fans.

No other puppet has survived more than 4 years.
 

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I was never a great fan of Moore the quarterback, but he definitely has abilities offensive coordinating. To similarily compare him at this juncture of his career to Garrett, head coaching trait wise, is meaningless.
 

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A 6-10 season is "riding a high"?

That's like getting drunk on non-alcohol beer.

I really wanted Jason to be the next great coach, the "new Landry:". He was a former Cowboy quarterback and it would have been great to see him build onto the legacy created by Landry and Johnson. It didn't work out for a variety of reasons but my greatest disappointment was, where was the innovation? Where was the revolutionary new strategy that would place Garrett in the company of Lombardi, Walsh, etc.?

I gave him a lot of slack mostly because of who the GM was but I just can't find an excuse for 2015 when you have 5 offensive Pro Bowlers and can't score a TD in the pivotal Eagles game in December. Dak, Zeke, Amari, Witten, and 3 of the 5 O-linemen played in every game. They were ranked #1 in offensive yards in the NFL and they couldn't score a TD against a 15th ranked Eagles defense against scoring?

He had to go but I'm not "riding a high" over failure.
 

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I didn't really want to start a thread on this topic, but I'm seriously wondering if anyone else is still feeling incredibly happy now that Garrett is someone else's problem?

It was obvious to most of us pretty early on that he didn't have the skills to get team over the hump so it was definitely one of the most difficult things I've had to endure as a fan watching him stick around year after year.

I know many of you are ready to give up on Big Mike already, but at least he has won a super bowl, and in my opinion, has a winning pedigree and understands how to put together a team. We need to keep an open mind with Big Mike at this point, last year can't be the barometer in my opinion.

I also want to apologize to my forum members who will cringe when they see another Jason garret thread! Bottom line, I'm still like a kid in a candy store knowing he's gone.

I'm in full agreement......I'm extremely happy that Garrett is gone, and that won't change regardless of who is in charge in Dallas.
As far as I'm concerned, Garrett totally wore out his welcome here.
 

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A 6-10 season is "riding a high"?

That's like getting drunk on non-alcohol beer.

I really wanted Jason to be the next great coach, the "new Landry:". He was a former Cowboy quarterback and it would have been great to see him build onto the legacy created by Landry and Johnson. It didn't work out for a variety of reasons but my greatest disappointment was, where was the innovation? Where was the revolutionary new strategy that would place Garrett in the company of Lombardi, Walsh, etc.?

I gave him a lot of slack mostly because of who the GM was but I just can't find an excuse for 2015 when you have 5 offensive Pro Bowlers and can't score a TD in the pivotal Eagles game in December. Dak, Zeke, Amari, Witten, and 3 of the 5 O-linemen played in every game. They were ranked #1 in offensive yards in the NFL and they couldn't score a TD against a 15th ranked Eagles defense against scoring?

He had to go but I'm not "riding a high" over failure.


Innovation, revolution?? A 2 year QB coach, you got the league right where you want them?!


Failure is a little ridiculous after 1 season with a new coach, no offseason, no preseason, countless injuries. Pretty much the entire Oline, worse D in history handed off by none other than the dynamic duo of Garrett and Marinelli. A braintrust that's been a complete failure. Record breaking chokers. If you had playoff expectations last year, then it's nothing more than a pipe dream.

If you don't actually have more hope in todays team than you've had in years, that's on you. Cause it's pretty clear what's happening here in comparison to what those 2 were peddling on a regular basis.

You talk about a #1 offense not scoring.. that's what failure looks like. I'm just wondering how Garrett earned "slack" in 2010? Like he somehow wasn't part of the problem? And still had slack after a decade of staring at some ridiculous blunders and defeats? But today a Super Bowl winner and no doubt a better coach gets no slack at all for probably the most ridiculous season we've ever seen in our lifetime.

I think some are celebrating the fact that he's no longer the coach here no matter the replacement, no matter the outcome. He's in the division... even better!! The next Lombardi or Walsh??! lol I wonder if the Giants are hoping for the same thing?
 

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Garrett was completely awful in NY, as he took over play-calling duties. It was another organization he had strong family ties too.

From what I remember reading, Judge the HC had to take the RG away from him as well, which improved them a bit, from being dead last.

Garrett wasn’t play-caller here since 2014, after Jerry completely banished him. He was effectively a figure-head. The problem of Garrett, was that Jerry took too long to take the play-calling reigns away from him and that was only when Romo had the opportunity to force it via the new contract he got.

Romo’s MVP season was the very year Garrett had zero say or input in the offense. Garrett didn’t even have Romo in game planning meetings up to the new contract.

If anything, Romo should be considered a legend simply on the fact he operated under JGs play calling and had them competitive.

Agree with all of this. He was never a good coach and still isn’t. People who like him act like because McCarthy stunk last year it somehow proved it wasn’t Garrett. No, he was bad and we also had a meddling owner. He’s only been in places with connections and isn’t a good coach. Good guy, man, stand up etc…sure. Coaching football..no. May turn up that Mike can’t coach either. Doesn’t mean Garrett could. Means owner hires bad people.
 

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I haven’t thought much about it because I’ve been reveling so much in how much better our coaching has gotten.

Yet he sucked and had his duties basically stripped in NY. Having someone who also might not be good doesn’t mean the other was good. Maybe it means we have wasted too many years with Campos, Garrett’s and MMs vs getting creative.
 

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I didn't really want to start a thread on this topic, but I'm seriously wondering if anyone else is still feeling incredibly happy now that Garrett is someone else's problem?

It was obvious to most of us pretty early on that he didn't have the skills to get team over the hump so it was definitely one of the most difficult things I've had to endure as a fan watching him stick around year after year.

I know many of you are ready to give up on Big Mike already, but at least he has won a super bowl, and in my opinion, has a winning pedigree and understands how to put together a team. We need to keep an open mind with Big Mike at this point, last year can't be the barometer in my opinion.

I also want to apologize to my forum members who will cringe when they see another Jason garret thread! Bottom line, I'm still like a kid in a candy store knowing he's gone.

I had two big problems with JG. He wouldn’t take responsibility for L’s and he lost every chess match he was in.
 
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