Simone Biles: Quitter or champion of mental health?

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In this case, I don't even think you have to know her to process what happened. She won the olympic trials last month. She was at peak performance level headed to Tokyo. She is physically healthy by her own admission. Even if she had been abused when she was younger, she was still able to win Olympic gold 4 years ago as well as numerous World Champion titles. Whatever abuse she suffered has never held her back or impeded her....... until this week. It makes no sense. I think she simply isn't accustomed to failing and is so psychologically fragile that she couldn't bounce back from a bad vault. So she's now playing the mental health card. Didn't Kerry Strug or someone do a vault on a broken ankle a few Olympics ago and help her team claim gold? A broken ankle is adversity.
Michael Jordan quit basketball in his prime because of the pressure and resulting depression.
 

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IM a teacher and I taught Summer School for the first time in my career this Summer. (two kids in college at the same time.....I should be crying about my mental health) For the first time in my 18 year career I had a kid come in and use mental health as a reason for not getting his stuff done. What a load of crap. HS aged kids arent stupid, and they are gonna work this system for all its worth. Hey, all I need to do is say the stress of school is overwhelming and I have been depressed and blah blah blah. He wasnt interested in seeing the school counselor.

Im sick of this mental health excuse as a way of getting out of being responsible.

Seems to me Osaka's mental health is pretty good when she plays on hard courts. Seems Biles mental health is pretty good when shes dominating everyone.
Well you're a horrible teacher. Pressure is a mental issue which leads to depression McFly. You need to go back to school and I feel for your students.
 

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Well you're a horrible teacher. Pressure is a mental issue which leads to depression McFly. You need to go back to school and I feel for your students.
you are clueless. Better not learn to deal with pressure.... I know in the real world companies routinely give employees a little extra time to deal with deadlines if they say they have had a little anxiety in dealing with the amount of work on their plate.

yep........ pressure.... depression, mental health..... life is tough.
 

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you are clueless. Better not learn to deal with pressure.... I know in the real world companies routinely give employees a little extra time to deal with deadlines if they say they have had a little anxiety in dealing with the amount of work on their plate.

yep........ pressure.... depression, mental health..... life is tough.
Tell that to Jordan who quit basketball in his prime because of that pressure.
 

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Michael Phelps quit twice, claiming that the pressure made him suicidal. Do you view him the same way?

I think it takes self awareness for her to admit she was a liability to the team.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/19/health/michael-phelps-depression/index.html

just read Phelps talking about his depression. Nowhere in THIS article does he pinpoint any specific reason for his depression.

I also think people often smoke pot because they like to get high. Has little to do with depression or anxiety, they just like to get high.

Some people go out to have a good time and get wasted drunk..... has nothing to do with depression.
I cant speak for the reason Phelps had his issues, but if you can link to an article where he gives specifics, id be interested in reading it.
 

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Tell that to Jordan who quit basketball in his prime because of that pressure.
please link me to an article where Jordan said he quit basketball due to pressure.

His dad had just died and he simply had no passion to play basketball at that time. hmmmm, so the best player in the world quits BASKETBALL due to pressure and decides to pay BASEBALL where he was mercelessly ridiculed for not belonging, not being good enough and making a mockery of baseball.... and he felt no pressure for all that, but basketball was too much pressure?????? makes sense.
 

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Well you're a horrible teacher. Pressure is a mental issue which leads to depression McFly. You need to go back to school and I feel for your students.
Rockport I always respect people's opinion but I don't know if calling Reidboys3 a horrible teacher is a good one. He has stated that he works with Alternative ED kids. They are not choir boys but are usually expelled from regular schools. Some have no respect for authority and are usually involved in criminal activities. Not many adults will give these kids a chance and those that work with them should be praised. I do agree with you that pressure can lead to depression and that some just can not handle the stress that comes which leads to mental health disorders.
 

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Rockport I always respect people's opinion but I don't know if calling Reidboys3 a horrible teacher is a good one. He has stated that he works with Alternative ED kids. They are not choir boys but are usually expelled from regular schools. Some have no respect for authority and are usually involved in criminal activities. Not many adults will give these kids a chance and those that work with them should be praised. I do agree with you that pressure can lead to depression and that some just can not handle the stress that comes which leads to mental health disorders.

Thank you, and your input on alt Ed is accurate. When rockport has done what I have done for kids...... let me know. In addition to teaching, I coached club ball for twenty years and helped over sixty kids get college scholarships....... including giving kids that had nothing hundreds to go on college visits. I’ll be attending my 14th wedding of a former player two days before we go to Dallas for the opener.

Those kids don’t ask you to their wedding if you are so bad.

But, in one breath he says we shouldn’t judge biles because we don’t know her, and in his next he’s expert enough to tell me I’m a horrible teacher...lol
 

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Thank you, and your input on alt Ed is accurate. When rockport has done what I have done for kids...... let me know. In addition to teaching, I coached club ball for twenty years and helped over sixty kids get college scholarships....... including giving kids that had nothing hundreds to go on college visits. I’ll be attending my 14th wedding of a former player two days before we go to Dallas for the opener.

Those kids don’t ask you to their wedding if you are so bad.

But, in one breath he says we shouldn’t judge biles because we don’t know her, and in his next he’s expert enough to tell me I’m a horrible teacher...lol
You shouldn’t have judged Biles and insinuated she’s a weak minded person because of what you did. Try and understand about depression before you belittle someone. I could care less of what you bragged about, what you did was totally wrong.
 

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You shouldn’t have judged Biles and insinuated she’s a weak minded person because of what you did. Try and understand about depression before you belittle someone. I could care less of what you bragged about, what you did was totally wrong.

How much less could you care?
This is an opinion forum and I don’t need you telling me what I should or should not think. This young generation is WEAK. Sorry that upsets you to point it out. We are just damn, lucky we don’t need them to fight ww2.
And brag was not what I was doing. In my real life, nobody knows what I’ve done behind the scenes.... because I don’t do what I do looking for approval from others.
I pointed out what I’ve done to show how little you know.

Curious...... what do you think should happen to someone in the military that is about to get sent into combat but refuses to go because of their mental health?
 

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How much less could you care?
This is an opinion forum and I don’t need you telling me what I should or should not think. This young generation is WEAK. Sorry that upsets you to point it out. We are just damn, lucky we don’t need them to fight ww2.
And brag was not what I was doing. In my real life, nobody knows what I’ve done behind the scenes.... because I don’t do what I do looking for approval from others.
I pointed out what I’ve done to show how little you know.

Curious...... what do you think should happen to someone in the military that is about to get sent into combat but refuses to go because of their mental health?
The older generation has said that about every younger generation but as soon as bullets start going down range everyone of them have stood tall. This one is no different. Get off your high horse and quit yelling get off my lawn!
 

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The older generation has said that about every younger generation but as soon as bullets start going down range everyone of them have stood tall. This one is no different. Get off your high horse and quit yelling get off my lawn!
Now that we can agree on. I am definitely the guy yelling get off my lawn to a bunch of candy arse pansies.
 

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Now that we can agree on. I am definitely the guy yelling get off my lawn to a bunch of candy arse pansies.
You’re also the reason many people that suffer from depression don’t get help because bozo’s like you make fun of them. You perpetuate the stigma. You should feel horrible about that but you obviously don’t.
 

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You’re also the reason many people that suffer from depression don’t get help because bozo’s like you make fun of them. You perpetuate the stigma. You should feel horrible about that but you obviously don’t.
I’m supposed to feel bad that people are stressed over day to day living? Nah...... go ahead, call me a bozo. Life is hard. You learn to deal with adversity, or you get your arse kicked weekly and then cry about it.
 

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You’re also the reason many people that suffer from depression don’t get help because bozo’s like you make fun of them. You perpetuate the stigma. You should feel horrible about that but you obviously don’t.
hey. let me know when you find that article on Jordan saying he quit hoops due to pressure. I have a feeling im gonna be waiting for a long time.
 

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You’re also the reason many people that suffer from depression don’t get help because bozo’s like you make fun of them. You perpetuate the stigma. You should feel horrible about that but you obviously don’t.
Oh my they are so weak they hide. Tsk tsk tsk.
 
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