Based on all we know, would Dak be a first round pick

[tyke1doe]

Yeah the first round pick part is too obvious. For sure.

asking about exact draft slot can be a fun exercise though.

Of course, he missed where I also said if 1st round, where ... high 1st round, middle 1st round, lower 1st round?
Posters chose to put Dak the top 5 in a redraft. The topic was purposely designed to provide latitude. If no one thought he should have gone lower, that measures the forum's overall assessment of his ranking - at least those who participated in the thread and indulged us with their opinions.

 

[erod]

So Kirk Cousin goes over Fletcher Cox, Ryan Tannehill, Luke Kuechly, Stephon Gilmore, Chandler Jones, Bobby Wagner? I don't think so.

I don't know, maybe.

Look at the players teams look past to draft guys like Goff and Trubisky. The position dictates everything.

 

[JD_KaPow]

Here's the acid test.

List the teams from best to worst last season. Then have a draft of quarterbacks for each team.

How long until Dak got drafted?

Do you get to draft them all with rookie contracts? Do you take their current contract?

 

[HungryLion]

Of course, he missed where I also said if 1st round, where ... high 1st round, middle 1st round, lower 1st round?
Posters chose to put Dak the top 5 in a redraft. The topic was purposely designed to provide latitude. If no one thought he should have gone lower, that measures the forum's overall assessment of his ranking - at least those who participated in the thread and indulged us with their opinions.

Yes. I read your whole post and I like the overall discussion


Your headline could throw people off though. Lol but it happens to the best of us. Lol

 

[tyke1doe]

Yes, its a no brainer. The article makes it clear.
Back to first point: Redo any draft you want and things would change.

My opinion is: 2016 is over. Makes no difference what fantasy could happen, it didn't.

So why are you here? To *@#$ on everyone else's opinions or the thread starter's efforts to attempt to provide discussion and civil conversation?

 

[erod]

Do you get to draft them all with rookie contracts? Do you take their current contract?

Pretend the contracts are identical. But they are their current age.

 

[tyke1doe]

I don't know, maybe.

Look at the players teams look past to draft guys like Goff and Trubisky. The position dictates everything.

Yes, but in a redo?
I doubt teams are going to force taking a quarterback if they know ahead of time he's going to be less than spectacular.
Besides, if all quarterbacks are that valued, teams wouldn't start taking other positions until all the available quarterbacks are gone. Shrug.

 

[tyke1doe]

Yes. I read your whole post and I like the overall discussion


Your headline could throw people off though. Lol but it happens to the best of us. Lol

I get your drift. I debated on how to craft the headline, then just went with what I was thinking off the top of my head, assuming I'd provide enough information for posters to understand what I was talking about.

But what do I know. Apparently, I'm not "intelligent" enough.

 

[erod]

Yes, but in a redo?
I doubt teams are going to force taking a quarterback if they know ahead of time he's going to be less than spectacular.
Besides, if all quarterbacks are that valued, teams wouldn't start taking other positions until all the available quarterbacks are gone. Shrug.

This is why I'm always for best player available.

Always, no matter what you need.

 

[Risen Star]

UDFA

 

[garyo1954]

So why are you here? To *@#$ on everyone else's opinions or the thread starter's efforts?

The reality of the circumstances and having played this little, "What if" game 40+ times in my younger days proved it never changes a thing.
It's like the V8 commercial, "I shoulda had a V8."
You didn't and it too late to take it back now.
And I dare say no NFL team is sitting around redrawing any draft.

So don't get your feelings hurt when people who have played these little, "What ifs" point out the futility in the exercise.

 

[JD_KaPow]

So Kirk Cousin goes over Fletcher Cox, Ryan Tannehill, Luke Kuechly, Stephon Gilmore, Chandler Jones, Bobby Wagner? I don't think so.

Of course he does (not counting Tannehill, who's in the same boat). He's a quality starting QB and has been for a decade. Nothing is more valuable than that (other than a great starting QB). Teams might gamble that they'll get their QB the next year, but if they know what they know now, they also know that he's better than any QB that got drafted in 2013, 2014 or 2015.

Second, it doesn't matter if they failed at their first stop. The point is based on where they are today. If we evaluated Drew Brees when he ripped up his shoulder, there would be one assessment of him. If we evaluated him based on the end of his career, we'd have another.

You listed Wentz, Goff, Winston, Mariota. Where they are today is "guys who failed at their first stop and haven't done anything since that point." I don't know what distinction you're trying to draw.

Again, the point of the thread is based on where Dak is TODAY, not in 2016 or 2018, but TODAY. But there are many components involved in where he would go, including the strength of his draft class, position need, etc. It's not as simple as it seems, which is why I posed this question.

Except it is that simple. It's perfectly obvious Dak would be the top pick in the draft, based on where all those players are today.

 

[Ranching]

This is an embarrassing thread. I don’t care about another Dak thread. It’s not an intelligent thread.

Is that why you responded?

 

[Ranching]

Whoa...I feel like I just been hit with a brick...who is this poster...

He's been hacked by @America's Cowboy

 

[JohnsKey19]

if the draft were held today? High first? Middle first? Lower first? If not first, which round do you think he would go in?
Take into consideration the players who were available at the time he was picked and those available in the first round.

P.S., if you're tired of Dak threads, then simply bypass this one. Exercise your right to ignore or try to have a civil discussion.
Thanks.

Based on him being a top 10 QB, of course he goes in the 1st round. Is this a trick question?

 

[JBS]

Is that why you responded?

replying to bad posts and threads get responses all the time. look at all your posts.

 

[ThreeandOut]

Any 2016 draft picks getting paid more than Dak? I think that's the real redraft.

 

[America's Cowboy]

He's been hacked by @America's Cowboy

 

[tyke1doe]

The reality of the circumstances and having played this little, "What if" game 40+ times in my younger days proved it never changes a thing.
It's like the V8 commercial, "I shoulda had a V8."
You didn't and it too late to take it back now.
And I dare say no NFL team is sitting around redrawing any draft.

So don't get your feelings hurt when people who have played these little, "What ifs" point out the futility in the exercise.

My feelings aren't hurt. But if you've played, then don't play any more.
We all come from different walks of life and have been exposed to information at different times in our lives.
Who are YOU to tell people what is appropriate for them to discuss just because it doesn't comport to YOUR experiences?
That is why I said if this topic bothers you, move on. Ignore.
But in your self-glorification, you want to preen through this forum announcing, "LOOK AT ME, I'M ABOVE THESE TRIVIAL 'WHAT IF' GAMES."
Okay, good, you've told us you've played them 40 times since you were young and are bored.
Some of us, however, like playing the game. You know where you can go if you don't like it.

P.S., you can't "prove" anything from hypotheticals. Hypothetical scenarios like these are merely to prompt discussion. Discussion triggered.

 

[tyke1doe]

Of course he does (not counting Tannehill, who's in the same boat). He's a quality starting QB and has been for a decade. Nothing is more valuable than that (other than a great starting QB). Teams might gamble that they'll get their QB the next year, but if they know what they know now, they also know that he's better than any QB that got drafted in 2013, 2014 or 2015. You listed Wentz, Goff, Winston, Mariota. Where they are today is "guys who failed at their first stop and haven't done anything since that point." I don't know what distinction you're trying to draw.Except it is that simple. It's perfectly obvious Dak would be the top pick in the draft, based on where all those players are today.

According to your opinion, yes. Thank you for sharing your opinion.