QBs passing 50+ times were 1-16 last season

[rnr_honeybadger]

Tom Brady versus Cowboys 9/12/21

32/50 379 4 2

And a win

Hehe….but Dak Prescott outplayed him.

 

[ondaedg]

If we didn’t pass 50+ times we lose that game 38-9.

 

[pansophy]

There is a diference between saying...Dak played a great game..it sucks we lost..opposed to Dak threw the ball 50 times thats why we lost.....No

The problem is and has been Dak has to throw the ball 50+ times lately because we can not stop anyone....I get some do not like certain posters or players but that is no excuse for being blind to what the problem this team is having really is...If you seriosuly think HC and QB are on the sidelines saying "lets pass some more those stats are cooking" then Reality left the building a while back....More likley they are looking at the defense saying "yeah...we need to score and keep it comming as they are not slowing down...

I mean against Tampa Bay in particular we also used the short passing game outside to substitute for trying to run against the front 7. But we still had a time of possession advantage by like 10 minutes. But generally, throwing 50 times means your defense isn't stopping anyone, you are behind, and need to score quickly. People truly do not understand the idea that 'correlation is not causation'...people say "we should run more and we will win, why do they refuse to do that", instead of realizing that teams that are winning can afford to run more and burn clock, even if it doesn't result in points.

Of course when we do that then it's "we got a case of the Garrett's and got too conservative, so we lost", but again fail to see the true problem is that we can't stop anyone from marching down the field and scoring.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

If we'd never ran against 8 man fronts, Emmitt wouldn't be the all time leader in rushing yards. -Troy Aikman

Those three yard runs in the first quarter become four yard runs in the second quarter. Those four yard runs in the third quarter, become six yard runs in the fourth quarter. AKA...running the ball wears down a defense.

There can be no success without effort.

 

[charron]

Honestly it's not about how many times you pass it.

It's about being efficient and scoring TD's in the red zone. Scoring 1 of 4 or was it 1 of 5, either way it's too low when you can not rely on your defense at all. We need to score TD's atleast 40% and always walk away with points or it'll be close loss after close loss.

 

[kskboys]

Not shocked at all. Prolific passing simply isn't a winning strategy. Not to mention gassing your D.

 

[plasticman]

Well, in 2018, quarterbacks who wore #4 and were born on July 29th happened to be 1-0 when throwing 50 or more passes, so there!

 

[JD_KaPow]

Why do people have such a hard time with cause and effect?

When you're losing, you have to pass, so you throw a lot of passes. Usually you lose anyway, because, well, you're already behind. That's the large majority of 50-pass games.
When you're winning, you start running the ball a lot, so you end up with a lot of rushes and rushing yards. Usually you win, because, well, you're already ahead.

If you can't understand the difference between most 50-pass games and what was happening last week (and why it happened), you need to watch more football.

 

[JBond]

Y'all don't get it.

Sometimes you have to pass that many times when the game dictates it, especially if you fail to be able to run the football effectively against your opponent.

Our Oline was unable to open holes for Zeke and Tony because of having to go up against the #1 ranked front 7 defense (SB Champs as well), so the Cowboys had no choice but to use their WR weapons and pass the ball 50+ times. Guess what? The Cowboys almost won...and actually should have won if it wasn't for mistakes by several key players, so that proves this theory wrong.

Had the Cowboys forced the run just to please the critics, they still would not have rushed for anywhere near 100 yards and most likely lost by a lot more than 2 points.

BS

 

[DandyDon52]

In other words, we DO NOT want Dak passing 50 times a game.......

I have been saying this for awhile now, so thanks for this fact to back it up!
Too bad we cant send this to kellen and mike.
Kellen wants to throw the ball he does not want to or know how to run the ball.
Not sure how dak feels about it, but not only will it wear dak down as season goes along, but more sacks and hits will occur for him.
The more a qb drops back, the more he will get hit.
Dak passing 50 times a game isnt a guaranteed loss, but he will lose most of them, and it isnt his fault, it is the coaches, kellen and mike.
If the last 3 times he has lost the game, and you still think it is ok, or they have to etc, I dont know what to say lol.
It is a losing formula, has been for long time.

The reason we cant run is the ******** blocking schemes, not elliot, or the OL guys.
They have to do what they are taught and told, and it is just ********.

If you record games or can watch them back , go slow mo or frame by frame on plays where say elliot is tackled at or behind LOS.
watch the linemen and how the defense lines up, and look at our OL guys then watch who they block or dont block.
9 times out of 10 it is a guy who comes unblocked who makes the play on rb. and he could have been blocked, but the scheme allows him to come unblocked.

 

[DandyDon52]

Why do people have such a hard time with cause and effect?

When you're losing, you have to pass, so you throw a lot of passes. Usually you lose anyway, because, well, you're already behind. That's the large majority of 50-pass games.
When you're winning, you start running the ball a lot, so you end up with a lot of rushes and rushing yards. Usually you win, because, well, you're already ahead.

If you can't understand the difference between most 50-pass games and what was happening last week (and why it happened), you need to watch more football.

that isnt the case with dallas or some other teams.
They have OC's that are just prone to pass too much. the tampa game was 7-7 when dallas went to mostly passing, they were never far behind.
Part of the problem is jerry and kellen have lamb and cooper , gallup and the others too, but they want to use them, and see it as a strength, which blinds them
to the run game and how it should be used, plus they dont have a clue when it comes to run blocking.

 

[America's Cowboy]

BS

Your comment is...

 

[jay94]

I don’t like Dak throwing that much either but I think says more about the defense than anything else

Also a complete inept overpaid and overrated tb.

 

[jaythecowboy]

Correlation doesn't equal causation

 

[Lutonio]

Brady had 50 attempts that night and won.

What now?

 

[Established1971]

In other words, we DO NOT want Dak passing 50 times a game.......

holy mackeral that is a telling stat

though the Tampa game was not your typical 50 attempt game because of Moores playcalling, they were never down by more than, what, 4 points

 

[Established1971]

It’s not ideal of course and won’t happen most weeks but if we passed 25 times we lose by 20 plus points last week. Each week is different. Not sure why that is tough to grasp.

you dont know that

 

[Legend]

If we'd never ran against 8 man fronts, Emmitt wouldn't be the all time leader in rushing yards. -Troy Aikman

Those three yard runs in the first quarter become four yard runs in the second quarter. Those four yard runs in the third quarter, become six yard runs in the fourth quarter. AKA...running the ball wears down a defense.

There can be no success without effort.

The Eagles did not allow a 100 yard rusher in 53 straight games until Emmitt rushed for 100+ yards in November 1992.

The Cowboys did not abandon the run against the potent Eagles D.

They viewed the opportunity as a challenge to get better while maintaining a balanced offensive attack.

McCarthy reasoning for abandoning the run could be a slap to the face of his own players. Basically stating they are not good enough to get the job done against the Bucs by running the ball.

Take on the challenge next time.

 

[glimmerman]

Y'all don't get it.

Sometimes you have to pass that many times when the game dictates it, especially if you fail to be able to run the football effectively against your opponent.

Our Oline was unable to open holes for Zeke and Tony because of having to go up against the #1 ranked front 7 defense (SB Champs as well), so the Cowboys had no choice but to use their WR weapons and pass the ball 50+ times. Guess what? The Cowboys almost won...and actually should have won if it wasn't for mistakes by several key players, so that proves this theory wrong.

Had the Cowboys forced the run just to please the critics, they still would not have rushed for anywhere near 100 yards and most likely lost by a lot more than 2 points.

When the game plan calls for it. But remember the run when Elliot picked up a big chunk of yards. I think the TE missed a block. Anyways, when MM or Moore saw that then they should have seen that hole and ran more toss plays. I remember one reason I didn’t like our last HC was because he would not change the plan when something was not working. He just kept with the game plan.

 

[America's Cowboy]

When the game plan calls for it. But remember the run when Elliot picked up a big chunk of yards. I think the TE missed a block. Anyways, when MM or Moore saw that then they should have seen that hole and ran more toss plays. I remember one reason I didn’t like our last HC was because he would not change the plan when something was not working. He just kept with the game plan.

Totally agree.

Remember, though, Dak threw several quick outs behind the line of scrimmage to a WR who then used other receivers blocks to gain yards downfield after the catch, so that's almost the same as running the ball behind or around O-Tackle but while avoiding the heavy rush inside a normal run would have to deal with. I believe this was smart on Kellen Moore's behalf. Sure, it was a pass, but in reality, it was more of a WR catch and run to the receiver's side of the field.