Dak QBR 58.5

[Aerolithe_Lion]

His QBR against the Eagles is the one — that fumble for an Eagle TD must count a lot.

It’s mostly weighted by the teams he’s played and the difficulty of his drives it appears.

Both of his big performance games were Philly and TB, who are two of the worst pass D’s in the league, and his two games against good pass D’s were both wins, but they were not prolific games like the other two.

That combined with the fact that every single one of his TD passes have been in opponent’s territory. This is commensurate with his ypg, ypa, and rushing ypg being his lowest since 2018. Theyre much more of a running game this year and Dak’s play has adjusted to give his team the best chance of winning in that as opposed to 2019. He has 0 TDs and all of his interceptions in his own territory, and their his passer rating drops into the 80’s. Diggs has played a huge part in his passer rating spike this year. Dallas is also top 10 in field goal attempts, vs the QBR leader whose team is 30th. So red zone efficiency, converting long drives, the DVOA of the team you’re playing…. All that is weighted heavily.

58 is a good QBR and being around Rodgers and Allen is not some insult to Dak. It’s a lot more accurate than Passer Rating where he shares the top 10 with Winston, Burrow, Tyrod Taylor, Heinicke, and Bridgewater. Don’t Throw turnovers and have a run game that keeps the defense honest and passer rating will say you’re a great QB. QBR tried to dig a little deeper than that.

Jalen Hurts is 11th in passer rating for crying out loud.

 

[john van brocklin]

Are my eyes deceiving me? This is probably the best Dak Prescott has ever played in his career and his QBR metric seems pretty low. He's in the same range as Herbert, Rodgers, Jackson, Josh Allen.

2021 NFL Season Leaders Total QBR | ESPN

Dak Prescott Stats | ESPN

Forget stats
The eye test says he's great.

 

[Jake]

QBR and Passer Rating are made up stats by the media.

QBR and passer rating are two entirely different things.

The NFL has been using passer rating, a statistical calculation, for decades. ESPN made up QBR in recent years, and it includes subjective items. It's garbage.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

QBR and passer rating are two entirely different things.

The NFL has been using passer rating, a statistical calculation, for decades. ESPN made up QBR in recent years, and it includes subjective items. It's garbage.

They're different, yes, but there still just made up formulas to judge a QB that nobody should take serious.

I mean, just look at the top 10 all time in Passer Rating and tell me if it should be taken serious.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

QBR and passer rating are two entirely different things.

The NFL has been using passer rating, a statistical calculation, for decades. ESPN made up QBR in recent years, and it includes subjective items. It's garbage.

The entire reason ESPN created QBR is because of how deceptive passer rating is. According to passer rating, Kirk cousins is one of the greatest quarterbacks who ever lived. It doesn’t care about circumstance, just that he doesn’t throw picks and gets a lot to garbage time stats. Top 11 passer rating QBs this year are Heinicke, Taylor, Cousins, Burrow, Bridgewater, Winston, Hurts.

Do you feel ANY of those QBs are actually top 11? Passer rating is so blindly out of context it’s almost intentionally misleading.

 

[blueblood70]

/why does this place get hung up on stats ? so many posts trying to defend dak using stats..who cares 3-1 is all i care about..

same with zeke im reading fans on fb says nice two games BUT like he hasnt proven anything..the man has proved it since day 1 his rookie year..he never left and we all know that if 100yard games were a barometer then maybe we should bench pollard because if pollards not on this team im betting zekes last 3 games look like this

LAC 120 easy
Philly 150 easy
Carolina-143

he is tied for RB rushing tds rights now, i bet hed have few more without pollard

he for sure would be 2nd in the league in rushing under henry.

yet fans look at stats and say well he needs to..........blah blah blah

Daks lost some stats the last 2.5 games as we went run heavy but look at his actual stats hes playing better then TB12 right now..has the same amount of td-int has better YPG , better Com,p% etc etc

and this is on a now very balanced team..

this is by far up to this point Daks best start top his career and hope it continues whether its 200yard games or 400 all i care about are wins..

this has turned into a Dak Friendly offense lol seriously look how well romo played the last 3-4 seasons when the defense tightened up, we ran a lot more, and just found ways to win with balance. all game wont be like that as the bucs game went but i like this teams its reminding me of 2014 and 2016..

if we stay healthy we will be successful..

 

[Bigdog]

So now he is not top 5. Lol. Just keep winning man.

Right. His QBR could be 10 for all that I care but if he keeps winning that is all that matters in my book.

 

[TequilaCowboy]

Are my eyes deceiving me? This is probably the best Dak Prescott has ever played in his career and his QBR metric seems pretty low. He's in the same range as Herbert, Rodgers, Jackson, Josh Allen.

2021 NFL Season Leaders Total QBR | ESPN

Dak Prescott Stats | ESPN

My eyes only see 3-1....Dak and Dallas just needs to keep it going. Stats are meaningless and especially after only 4 games. The Cowboys have been rushing more the last couple weeks, a more balanced attack. That is their winning formula.

 

[pansophy]

It’s mostly weighted by the teams he’s played and the difficulty of his drives it appears.

Both of his big performance games were Philly and TB, who are two of the worst pass D’s in the league, and his two games against good pass D’s were both wins, but they were not prolific games like the other two.

That combined with the fact that every single one of his TD passes have been in opponent’s territory. This is commensurate with his ypg, ypa, and rushing ypg being his lowest since 2018. Theyre much more of a running game this year and Dak’s play has adjusted to give his team the best chance of winning in that as opposed to 2019. He has 0 TDs and all of his interceptions in his own territory, and their his passer rating drops into the 80’s. Diggs has played a huge part in his passer rating spike this year. Dallas is also top 10 in field goal attempts, vs the QBR leader whose team is 30th. So red zone efficiency, converting long drives, the DVOA of the team you’re playing…. All that is weighted heavily.

58 is a good QBR and being around Rodgers and Allen is not some insult to Dak. It’s a lot more accurate than Passer Rating where he shares the top 10 with Winston, Burrow, Tyrod Taylor, Heinicke, and Bridgewater. Don’t Throw turnovers and have a run game that keeps the defense honest and passer rating will say you’re a great QB. QBR tried to dig a little deeper than that.

Jalen Hurts is 11th in passer rating for crying out loud.

QBR doesn't account for who you play. There have just been some negative plays. https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo...-calculated-we-explain-our-quarterback-rating

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

QBR doesn't account for who you play. There have just been some negative plays. https://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo...-calculated-we-explain-our-quarterback-rating

that is an oversimplification of everything it entails for the average ESPN reader


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_quarterback_rating

• Opponent adjustment: More credit is given with tougher defenses and vice versa.

Dilfer has explained this is part of the reason they don’t give individual game QBR’s during the season as opponent DVOA’s will change game-to-game, thus changing the QBRs.

 

[pansophy]

that is an oversimplification of everything it entails for the average ESPN reader


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_quarterback_rating

• Opponent adjustment: More credit is given with tougher defenses and vice versa.

Cool, I hadn't seen that.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Just hope we don't have to depend on his arm to win us games.......
God Zeke make sure the above never happens!!!

 

[RS12]

QBR and Passer Rating are made up stats by the media.

The same way WAR is in baseball.

Don't pay them any attention.

Don't agree on WAR. Takes all five tools into account and emotion out of player evaluation.

 

[RonnieT24]

All stats are flawed.. this one is no different. Because it also includes rushing yards and TDs it's always going to be slanted towards QBs who run more/better. And if they don't run a lot if they can get a QB sneak TD or two it helps a lot .. see Brady.. If Dak gets a couple of rushing TDs watch his QBR jump up 20 points. But I think people are misinterpreting the meaning of the stat. It's not designed to tell you who is playing the best.. It's designed to grade everything a QB is doing to help his team to win. Dak is not running a lot so he's not getting those points.. So even though he's playing as well as he has ever played.. he is not DOING as much to help his team win as he used to .. hence the lower QBR..

 

[Kolemmitt]

According to QBR
Dak is 15th
Josh Allen is 16th and.
Aaron Rodger is 17th.

But...
Jameis Winston is 4th!
Teddy Bridgewater is 5th
Daniel Jones is 12th and
Tyler Heinecke is 13th.

That's really all you need to know about the QBR stat.

 

[nightrain]

Dak is a top 5 QB right now. He is playing his best football. He is a championship caliber pla yer.

How many of those QBRs above him would you swap for Dak?

 

[Jipper]

Without his 188 yards there's no telling what would have happened against the Panthers.

He was the difference maker.

Pay that man 40 million.

his stat line was very aikmenesque honestly....

 

[RonnieT24]

According to QBR
Dak is 15th
Josh Allen is 16th and.
Aaron Rodger is 17th.

But...
Jameis Winston is 4th!
Teddy Bridgewater is 5th
Daniel Jones is 12th and
Tyler Heinecke is 13th.

That's really all you need to know about the QBR stat.

Like I said, I think people don't understand how QBR works.. It attempts to assess how a players playing against the "average" for the position.. It awards points for every point above that average for each category they track. So a guy who is slightly above average in the passing category can surpass a better passer if he contribute more in the running game. I think it penalizes QBs who have a good running game because it rewards the QB for passing plays.. I think that part is off because the ability and willingness to audible into a favorable running play cannot be accounted for. That's the sort of thing you really have to watch the game attentively to see.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

It's the same old story.
When the team is winning and some stat(s) points to Dak not being a top quarterback it's "See, his rating shows he's not that good".

When the team isn't playing well and Dak has great stats it's "Stats don't matter, it's wins that count", Dak's not that good.

Guess that'll never change...

that's called being in lose lose situation. no matter what you do, you lose....

but the hater numbers is shrinking.....the posts more stupid. and its amusing to see them squirm...actually pretty funny

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

His QBR against the Eagles is the one — that fumble for an Eagle TD must count a lot.

probably, and its only 4 games, so small sample size and one bad play impacts a lot