Dak is like Romo

[nobody]

Yes and Derek Carr made Amari Cooper a top 5 paid Wr....

Dak Haters are worthless

I support Dak. He's had some bad games and seems to be struggling a little right now, but he's a good QB... but your analogy is flawed. Cooper is one of the best route runners in the league.

 

[FTWayne]

good, grief how many more people and coaches get the blame for dak?

 

[Qcard]

Uh actually, his first two years out of the gate, in dysfunctional Raiders land, he put up 1000 yard receiving. That’s not what one calls a narrative, it’s an actual fact. He played 3 and a half seasons there and he was tradeable like Khalil Mack was tradeable on the Raiders. Gruden wanted multiple assets for talented players.

Also, it was reported that the Colts and Football Team reached out to the Raiders for Amari.

Go sell your imaginations to some other uninformed fan...My memory is a blockchain.

Amari Cooper said he would have NOT flourished if he stayed with Carr and Gruden....he is the QUOTE

Ps....Dak Haters are Pathetic

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...ils-cowboys-raiders/6dqqb6kt4zh21cfvdyy9f587z

"I think the change of scenery was really necessary, I really, honestly, don't think if I would've stayed with the Raiders last season that I would've been able to flourish and reach some heights that I was able to reach as a Cowboy," Cooper said about the trade in July 2019. "So, it was definitely necessary."

 

[SultanOfSix]

Romo's clutch Playoff performance sealed Parcells fate......at least Drew Bledsoe got Parcells further than Romo in the past.....

Romo had a HOF coach and his play couldn't convince him to return

Sean Payton chose Saints over Romo....

This is a false narrative.

Parcells made his money post divorce. The way the team was managed by Jerry Jones likely sealed the fate of Parcells. He didn't want to coach anymore even though Jones offered him another contract to stay at least another year.

Parcells referred to Romo as 'Hey we have another guy here' with the press when the team was going through the likes of Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, etc. He knew what he had "in the shed."

Sean Payton chose the HC of the Saints over staying as an OC under Parcells. Payton knew how good Romo was. That's why he tried to trade for Romo (before he got Brees) and Parcells said no because he knew he was the future starting QB of the Cowboys.

Romo maximized his potential. He went from undrafted player to one of the highest rated starting QBs in NFL history. He's the epitome of meritocracy. Even if he didn't bring this team a SB (because it's an ORGANIZATIONAL effort) he was far from the real problems associated with teams over the years, and his career was wasted with the red-headed stepchild as the head coach (the opposite of meritocracy). I don't know why anyone hates on Romo.

 

[khiladi]

Go sell your imaginations to some other uninformed fan...My memory is a blockchain.

Amari Cooper said he would have NOT flourished if he stayed with Carr and Gruden....he is the QUOTE

Ps....Dak Haters are Pathetic

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...ils-cowboys-raiders/6dqqb6kt4zh21cfvdyy9f587z

"I think the change of scenery was really necessary, I really, honestly, don't think if I would've stayed with the Raiders last season that I would've been able to flourish and reach some heights that I was able to reach as a Cowboy," Cooper said about the trade in July 2019. "So, it was definitely necessary."

I mean, how does that quote change the fact that:

1. Amari Cooper was a thousand yard WR fresh out the gate and in his second year and was
widely heralded.

2. Multiple teams were interested in trading for Cooper and Gruden was trying to off-load multiple assets to build a weak roster?

3. Amari stating he doesn’t think he would have had the same success in Oakland at the time, as he did with Dallas proves absolutely nothing regarding my points. I mean Amari could have put up numbers with any elite QB and definitely against the man coverage he sees all day with Dallas, and defenses daring this QB to beat them.

Oh yeah, it doesn’t..

 

[Qcard]

This is a false narrative.

Parcells made his money post divorce. The way the team was managed by Jerry Jones likely sealed the fate of Parcells. He didn't want to coach anymore even though Jones offered him another contract to stay at least another year.

Parcells referred to Romo as 'Hey we have another guy here' with the press when the team was going through the likes of Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, etc. He knew what he had "in the shed."

Sean Payton chose the HC of the Saints over staying as an OC under Parcells. Payton knew how good Romo was. That's why he tried to trade for Romo (before he got Brees) and Parcells said no because he knew he was the future starting QB of the Cowboys.

Romo maximized his potential. He went from undrafted to one of the highest rated QBs in history. He's the epitome of meritocracy. Even if he didn't bring this team a SB he was far from the problems here as his career was wasted with the red-headed stepchild. I don't know why anyone hates on Romo even if he didn't bring a SB to Dallas.

Ehhh...we agree to disagree

But I love Romo....I just hate that the Romo Era is held over Prescott like it's some standard any QB had reach...

Romo Era goal was to build a Stadium....

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Dak completed 68% of his passes for 375 yards, 2 TDs, zero turnovers, and did it with no running game while missing our 2 best WRs.

Meanwhile, the defense gave up 500 yards and 36 points...BUT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE OUTCOME!

Romo once got blamed for losing 51-48 in a game where he threw 6 TD passes, so nothing surprises me anymore with this fan base. You just don't unders.tand football.

They are very different qbs. Tony rarely got a chance like that ot...
Typically he had to drive time after time. It's only a matter of time before law of averages catch.
I think people have short memories of Tony's plays or didn't stay up late for them.

 

[mahoneybill]

Honestly I think the talent is there. No team should have to worry about their coaching being a major liability on GameDay and that's what we've see most of the year.

or their kicker missing what could have been the game winning XP

 

[Nexx]

put Romo and Dak in the same offense with the same personnel with the same coaches. Romo wins more games guaranteed.

 

[Qcard]

I mean, how does that quote change the fact that:

1. Amari Cooper was a thousand yard WR fresh out the gate and in his second year and was
widely heralded.

Amari is a top 5 Receiver with Dak Prescott

Amari has gone from "heralded and traded with Carr" to the best route runner and top 5 Wr with Prescott

Narrative Change

2. Multiple teams were interested in trading for Cooper and Gruden was trying to off-load multiple assets to build a weak roster?

Where is the Proof? Name one other team that was interested in Cooper.

Any quotes, links or tweets....this is the Era of information not your imagination.

If I am wrong you earn the point

3. Amari stating he doesn’t think he would have had the same success in Oakland at the time, as he did with Dallas proves absolutely nothing regarding my points. I mean Amari could have put up numbers with any elite QB and definitely against the man coverage he sees all day with Dallas, and defenses daring this QB to beat them.

Oh yeah, it doesn’t..

Go tell Amari that....there are facts and your imagination

 

[SultanOfSix]

Ehhh...we agree to disagree

But I love Romo....I just hate that the Romo Era is held over Prescott like it's some standard any QB had reach...

Romo Era goal was to build a Stadium....

You're fine to disagree with Romo over Dak or Romo wasn't an elite QB or my opinion of Romo in the last paragraph.

You can't disagree with the narrative about Jones, Parcells, Payton, etc., because that is actually what it was.

 

[Qcard]

put Romo and Dak in the same offense with the same personnel with the same coaches. Romo wins more games guaranteed.

Romo will also choke more in bigger games....comes with the Cabo all inclusive

 

[Nexx]

Romo will also choke more in bigger games....comes with the Cabo all inclusive

Romo won games for the Cowboys that they had no business winning. Dak on the other hand...

 

[khiladi]

Amari is a top 5 Receiver with Dak Prescott

Amari has gone from "heralded and traded with Carr" to the best route runner and top 5 Wr with Prescott

Narrative Change




Where is the Proof? Name one other team that was interested in Cooper.

Any quotes, links or tweets....this is the Era of information not your imagination.

If I am wrong you earn the point




Go tell Amari that....there are facts and your imagination

1. Amari was the FOURTH PICK of the 2015 draft, anc was already producing a thousand yards receiving two years out the gate in the dysfunctional franchise that was Oakland. He was ALREADY considered a top flight WR. There is no narrative change there.

2. Gruden traded him, like he traded Mack to build up assets for a franchise that was going through a complete overhaul. the Raiders were looking for a first round draft pick. There is no narrative change there.

3. Multiple teams called about Amari, but the Cowboys offered the most. There is no narrative there.

The Cowboys are not alone; the Raiders have heard inquiries on Cooper from, among others, the Washington Commanders and Indianapolis Colts, according to a league source.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...i-cooper-considering-trade-oakland-raiders-wr

McKenzie said the team received interest from other teams since the beginning of the season, but Cowboys executive Stephen Jones called on Friday and followed up Monday with the offer of a first-round pick.

“I think he’s a first-round player," McKenzie said of Cooper. "Has he been inconsistent? Absolutely. But has he shown greatness? Absolutely. ... This guy is still a young player. I think he’s going to do well down there in Dallas.

As stated, there is no narrative change there.

Amari, subjective feelings mean nothing as to these facts. especially when Amari himself stated he wasn’t happy in Oakland at that time and he wasn’t being used correctly in his first year with Gruden. I’m not even bothering listening to an interview which has nothing to do with the argument.

 

[Qcard]

This is a false narrative.

Parcells made his money post divorce. The way the team was managed by Jerry Jones likely sealed the fate of Parcells. He didn't want to coach anymore even though Jones offered him another contract to stay at least another year.

Parcells referred to Romo as 'Hey we have another guy here' with the press when the team was going through the likes of Drew Henson, Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, etc. He knew what he had "in the shed."

Sean Payton chose the HC of the Saints over staying as an OC under Parcells. Payton knew how good Romo was. That's why he tried to trade for Romo (before he got Brees) and Parcells said no because he knew he was the future starting QB of the Cowboys.

Romo maximized his potential. He went from undrafted player to one of the highest rated starting QBs in NFL history. He's the epitome of meritocracy. Even if he didn't bring this team a SB (because it's an ORGANIZATIONAL effort) he was far from the real problems associated with teams over the years, and his career was wasted with the red-headed stepchild as the head coach (the opposite of meritocracy). I don't know why anyone hates on Romo.

So Parcells walked away from Tony Romo a Franschise QB that Sean Payton tried to trade for after leaving Romo in Dallas.

In the Marine Corp they taught...keep it simple stupid

Or they both left because neither Jerry nor Romo had leadership style would lead to a Superbowl???

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

or their kicker missing what could have been the game winning XP

Man don't get me started again on the kicker lol

 

[Qcard]

Your interpretation or imaginations doesn't change facts...Amari Cooper stated he would NOT have experienced the success he's having anywhere else in part to his relationship with Dak....that is a Narrative Change based on Cooper's tenure and personality with Raiders

1. Amari was the FOURTH PICK of the 2015 draft, anc was already producing a thousand yards receiving two years out the gate in the dysfunctional franchise that was Oakland. He was ALREADY considered a top flight WR. There is no narrative change there.

2. Gruden traded him, like he traded Mack to build up assets for a franchise that was going through a complete overhaul. the Raiders were looking for a first round draft pick. There is no narrative change there.

3. Multiple teams called about Amari, but the Cowboys offered the most. There is no narrative there.



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...i-cooper-considering-trade-oakland-raiders-wr



As stated, there is no narrative change there.

Amari, subjective feelings mean nothing as to these facts. especially when Amari himself stated he wasn’t happy in Oakland at that time and he wasn’t being used correctly in his first year with Gruden. I’m not even bothering listening to an interview which has nothing to do with the argument.

So you won't listent to video of Amari Cooper talking about Prescott relationship...


You probably missed this quote....

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...ils-cowboys-raiders/6dqqb6kt4zh21cfvdyy9f587z

"I think the change of scenery was really necessary, I really, honestly, don't think if I would've stayed with the Raiders last season that I would've been able to flourish and reach some heights that I was able to reach as a Cowboy," Cooper said about the trade in July 2019. "So, it was definitely necessary

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Tony.....(29 4th Qtr comebacks, 24 game winning drives).....Romo wasn't a loser.....(including the game winning drive vs Detroit in the playoffs.....) with a worst team.

How many of those game winning drives came in the playoffs?

 

[SultanOfSix]

So Parcells walked away from Tony Romo a Franschise QB that Sean Payton tried to trade for after leaving Romo in Dallas.

In the Marine Corp they taught...keep it simple stupid

Or they both left because neither Jerry nor Romo had leadership style would lead to a Superbowl???

Parcells walked away because he was done with coaching. His decision to stay or leave had nothing do with the whether he thought Romo was a franchise QB or not. But he believed the former. Go read the articles.

And yes, Payton did try to trade for Romo. When that fell through he turned to obtaining Brees. This is old news. The fact that he tried to trade for him as his starting QB before Brees (a future HOF) says a lot.

I thought you "loved" Romo. Don't let your bias distort reality.

 

[khiladi]

Your interpretation or imaginations doesn't change facts...Amari Cooper stated he would NOT have experienced the success he's having anywhere else in part to his relationship with Dak....that is a Narrative Change based on Cooper's tenure and personality with Raiders


So you won't listent to video of Amari Cooper talking about Prescott relationship...


You probably missed this quote....

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl...ils-cowboys-raiders/6dqqb6kt4zh21cfvdyy9f587z

"I think the change of scenery was really necessary, I really, honestly, don't think if I would've stayed with the Raiders last season that I would've been able to flourish and reach some heights that I was able to reach as a Cowboy," Cooper said about the trade in July 2019. "So, it was definitely necessary

Facts are this:

1. Amari experienced success without Dak and Carr as QB.
2. Dak was arguably the worst QB in the league without Amari.
3. Amari was a top 4 draft pick, meaning considered the best WR coming out the draft and he lived up to billing.
4. Multiple teams did try trading for Amari, but Dallas gave the best offer, which was a first, clearly establishing his worth even from the Cowboys perspective.
5. Dallas did it to BAIL OUT Dak, not the other way around. If Dallas looked to trade Dak at that point, he probably would have netted a second maximum
6. Cooper Rush in his first start in 4 years on this offense threw to Amari for 8 REC and like -30 yards and the game winning TD.

Yes, we know any QB in this context of Dallas can get the ball to Amari..

It’s becoming pretty obvious who is being subjective and who is relying on objective facts.