Cowboys not the same team without Amari Cooper

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..Coop gets the command and respect of DB's and Safetys. Opens up everyone else.
 

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Ya know....I keep reading this over and over....and I don't disagree.

But what does "best route runner in the league" mean?
It means very few teams will play man coverage against him. He will attract multiple defenders, which opens up the rest of the offense.
 

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Cooper is a really interesting player because he changes the way defenses have to play more than he takes over games by himself. He's not going to out muscle a DB on every deep ball like Moss, prime Dez Bryant, or Calvin Johnson did, but when he's on the field teams can't bring their safeties up to the line because he will just run by just about any CB who tries to cover him in man by themselves.

He's also so good at beating press coverage that he forces teams do back off the other receivers because man press is an all or nothing gambit. Both of these things in turn contribute to opening up running lanes, unless the team has a dominant run stopping DL like Tampa or the Saints, which in turn opens up play action which is where players like Gallup really shine at stretching the field.

The only WR in Dallas history that I'm sure forced bigger changes in defenses was Bob Hayes. Not that Cooper is the best since him, just that he forces a ton of adjustments that open up every other aspect of the offense.
 

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If your QB can't produce with Lamb, Gallup, Wilson, Schultz and our running backs then you need a new QB.
You still don’t get it. It’s about trust. Prescott doesn’t like throwing interceptions. He’d rather hold onto the ball. He knows you’re a Cooper is going to be so he releases it earlier. Look at the whole picture
 

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If Dak can't produce with the amount of other talent we have on this team we r ****ed
 

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Cooper is great, but Lamb is the #1. Anyone would miss a guy like Cooper.

But as far as being lost without Cooper that is nonsense. Its the Oline problems is where the offense is lost.

It’s insane that you have so much pride that you will double down on your takes even when the whole world sees that you’re wrong. We saw what Ceedee was without cooper, boy couldn’t do anything until he got knocked out at halftime. As i told you during the summer, Cooper is the straw that stirs the drink not Lamb
 

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Same could be said about Dak. The Saints game was only the 3rd time Coop, Gallup & Lamb played together this season. Dallas needs ALL their starters & Moore needs to get it together.
 

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It’s insane that you have so much pride that you will double down on your takes even when the whole world sees that you’re wrong. We saw what Ceedee was without cooper, boy couldn’t do anything until he got knocked out at halftime. As i told you during the summer, Cooper is the straw that stirs the drink not Lamb
In DYAR...Lamb is 9th...Cooper 19th at present. Lamb is better after the catch.
 

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Moore doesn't want a run game. He wants Boise state passing stats.

Dallas running game has not been good, prior to this fall off Cowboys were one of the top rushing team so this notion that Moore does not want to run is a load of BS. Carries of 1 or 2 yards which is what we have been getting only helps kill drives. so yes he will pass on 1st down instead of running 100% of the time which in my view is pretty stupid and predictable. OL needs to get going in the run game and Dallas will run but he is not going to run it 35 times when we are not picking up yardage/
 

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I truly believe he’s the game changer. Prescott absolutely trust him. The perfect route runner. We’re not the same team on offense without him. Prescott and Amari stay healthy , This team win the whole thing
But then there's the Denver game. Inexplicable.
 

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Same could be said about Dak. The Saints game was only the 3rd time Coop, Gallup & Lamb played together this season. Dallas needs ALL their starters & Moore needs to get it together.
I'd settle for Cooper, Lamb, Wilson and a raging ground game. Sort of like what they had for the first seven weeks.
 

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Dallas running game has not been good, prior to this fall off Cowboys were one of the top rushing team so this notion that Moore does not want to run is a load of BS. Carries of 1 or 2 yards which is what we have been getting only helps kill drives. so yes he will pass on 1st down instead of running 100% of the time which in my view is pretty stupid and predictable. OL needs to get going in the run game and Dallas will run but he is not going to run it 35 times when we are not picking up yardage/

Before New Orleans Dallas has made no real attempt to run the football.

They’ve gotten behind in games and asked Dak to go win it with his arm.

The worst part is they barely used Pollard with a 1 legged Zeke and 2 of our best wideouts out.



Btw, Cooper & Tyron Smith are the MVPs of this offense and it’s not close.
 

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Before New Orleans Dallas has made no real attempt to run the football.

They’ve gotten behind in games and asked Dak to go win it with his arm.

The worst part is they barely used Pollard with a 1 legged Zeke and 2 of our best wideouts out.



Btw, Cooper & Tyron Smith are the MVPs of this offense and it’s not close.

and when they have ran they are not picking up yardage leaving us in long situation. picking up 1 to 2 yards is not going to cut it and the Oline as of late is not showing they can run block effectively. I want to see that change but if Oline is not making the blocks and we are picking up next to nothing then it is foolish to expect Moore to look for 35 plus carries in a game. 1 big run in a game is not going to cut it.
 

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Dallas running game has not been good, prior to this fall off Cowboys were one of the top rushing team so this notion that Moore does not want to run is a load of BS. Carries of 1 or 2 yards which is what we have been getting only helps kill drives. so yes he will pass on 1st down instead of running 100% of the time which in my view is pretty stupid and predictable. OL needs to get going in the run game and Dallas will run but he is not going to run it 35 times when we are not picking up yardage/
The problem is WHY.
You saying this group of NFL linemen can't block a run? Or does it make more sense that we are not scheming and game planning an efficient effective versatile run game plan?

Maybe a bit of both, but I see ZERO adjustments, zero creativity. I see the same run up the middle, and us crying about how our run game don't work. Or worse fat Zeke.
 

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and when they have ran they are not picking up yardage leaving us in long situation. picking up 1 to 2 yards is not going to cut it and the Oline as of late is not showing they can run block effectively. I want to see that change but if Oline is not making the blocks and we are picking up next to nothing then it is foolish to expect Moore to look for 35 plus carries in a game. 1 big run in a game is not going to cut it.
Again...you lay the WHOLE ENTIRE blame on the o-line? I think that is pretty narrow minded.
 

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and when they have ran they are not picking up yardage leaving us in long situation. picking up 1 to 2 yards is not going to cut it and the Oline as of late is not showing they can run block effectively. I want to see that change but if Oline is not making the blocks and we are picking up next to nothing then it is foolish to expect Moore to look for 35 plus carries in a game. 1 big run in a game is not going to cut it.

The run game isn’t about running it here and there and expecting productivity.

You’re going to get stuffed a lot.

Run game is a commitment. We committed to the run against New Orleans and while they stuffed it when eventually hit the home run on them.
 

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The problem is WHY.
You saying this group of NFL linemen can't block a run? Or does it make more sense that we are not scheming and game planning an efficient effective versatile run game plan?

Maybe a bit of both, but I see ZERO adjustments, zero creativity. I see the same run up the middle, and us crying about how our run game don't work. Or worse fat Zeke.

Center and left guard play has not been good, they are getting pushed back and allowing penetration into the backfield and there is not scheme that allows for that to happen and be successful. This exaggeration of always up the middle is a load of BS, Cowboys have ran outside as well and found the same crap of Dline, LB coming up and making the tackle. No it comes down to 2 interior lineman doing their damn jobs. As for fat Zeke? outside of the 1 run Pollard was avg 1.5 a carry. 1 big run does not make a run game. I want to see Dallas and these Oline players step up, hell even Zack Martin has said they are not getting it done.
 

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The run game isn’t about running it here and there and expecting productivity.

You’re going to get stuffed a lot.

a productive run game is keeps you in 2nd and 3rd and manageable. 1 to 2 yard runs are not going to cut it. Bad run games get stuffed quite often but when Dallas has been successful running it this year we are keeping ourselves in 2nd and 6, 3rd and 2 which are very manageable situations. Run game is about being effective in rushing the ball.
 
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