Tony Pollard = Alvin Harper

[jazzcat22]

Remember what Alvin harper was to Michael Irvin. A great complimentary WR.
But once he left to be a #1 Wr, I think he went too TB. He could not be the #1 guy.
Now maybe they did not have the surrounding team as Michael had. But he was still productive after Harper left. Harper was not.

This is what I see in Pollard. Very good combo of he and Zeke. And a great tandem when things are working and the OL is blocking.
But I see him to Zeke as Harper was to Irvin.
If Pollard leaves after his deal is up. He may not be able to handle a full time RB position.
He has already shown he can't do it here, not yet anyway. I hope he can, as we need both Tony and Zeke, that is the role he is best at.
I will not say he can't do it elsewhere, as we never will know until we see it, or not see it. But my feeling is, he would not.

I still love the idea of the dual threat, when things are going correctly.
However, Moore needs to get his head out of his butt. Because both of them, and these run up the middle for minimal gain is not working. Come on boy genius, be creative without tricks or gimmicks or being too cute with plays.

 

[OmerV]

Remember what Alvin harper was to Michael Irvin. A great complimentary WR.
But once he left to be a #1 Wr, I think he went too TB. He could not be the #1 guy.
Now maybe they did not have the surrounding team as Michael had. But he was still productive after Harper left. Harper was not.

This is what I see in Pollard. Very good combo of he and Zeke. And a great tandem when things are working and the OL is blocking.
But I see him to Zeke as Harper was to Irvin.
If Pollard leaves after his deal is up. He may not be able to handle a full time RB position.
He has already shown he can't do it here, not yet anyway. I hope he can, as we need both Tony and Zeke, that is the role he is best at.
I will not say he can't do it elsewhere, as we never will know until we see it, or not see it. But my feeling is, he would not.

I still love the idea of the dual threat, when things are going correctly.
However, Moore needs to get his head out of his butt. Because both of them, and these run up the middle for minimal gain is not working. Come on boy genius, be creative without tricks or gimmicks or being too cute with plays.

This may well be true. We just don't know how he would hold up if he were asked to take on the bulk of the load at RB. He didn't even do that in college, so it's truly and unknown.

 

[fivetwos]

Remember what Alvin harper was to Michael Irvin. A great complimentary WR.
But once he left to be a #1 Wr, I think he went too TB. He could not be the #1 guy.
Now maybe they did not have the surrounding team as Michael had. But he was still productive after Harper left. Harper was not.

This is what I see in Pollard. Very good combo of he and Zeke. And a great tandem when things are working and the OL is blocking.
But I see him to Zeke as Harper was to Irvin.
If Pollard leaves after his deal is up. He may not be able to handle a full time RB position.
He has already shown he can't do it here, not yet anyway. I hope he can, as we need both Tony and Zeke, that is the role he is best at.
I will not say he can't do it elsewhere, as we never will know until we see it, or not see it. But my feeling is, he would not.

I still love the idea of the dual threat, when things are going correctly.
However, Moore needs to get his head out of his butt. Because both of them, and these run up the middle for minimal gain is not working. Come on boy genius, be creative without tricks or gimmicks or being too cute with plays.

Probably right, he won't be a great feature back....but is anyone in today's league?

That position needs to be churned in rounds 2-4 in the draft every few years, and definitely never given big money.

In fact this year's many, many mocks we will see should very much include RBs. It's time.

 

[Risen Star]

We've had enough of your Pollard hate.

 

[jazzcat22]

We've had enough of your Pollard hate.

Not nearly as bad as your Dak hate, we had way too much of that.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Trade/waive Pollard next season!!

 

[jazzcat22]

We've had enough of your Pollard hate.

I do not hate Pollard. I think he has his value as we have seen it.

 

[MyFairLady]

Uhhhh Pollard may be Harper but Zeke is no Irvin.

 

[Blackthorn]

Remember what Alvin harper was to Michael Irvin. A great complimentary WR.
But once he left to be a #1 Wr, I think he went too TB. He could not be the #1 guy.
Now maybe they did not have the surrounding team as Michael had. But he was still productive after Harper left. Harper was not.

This is what I see in Pollard. Very good combo of he and Zeke. And a great tandem when things are working and the OL is blocking.
But I see him to Zeke as Harper was to Irvin.
If Pollard leaves after his deal is up. He may not be able to handle a full time RB position.
He has already shown he can't do it here, not yet anyway. I hope he can, as we need both Tony and Zeke, that is the role he is best at.
I will not say he can't do it elsewhere, as we never will know until we see it, or not see it. But my feeling is, he would not.

I still love the idea of the dual threat, when things are going correctly.
However, Moore needs to get his head out of his butt. Because both of them, and these run up the middle for minimal gain is not working. Come on boy genius, be creative without tricks or gimmicks or being too cute with plays.

You may be correct however, I have a different take. I think his skill-set can be utilized by all NFL team. He is great at being the check down receiver and at screens. He also has great awareness of where the sticks are and his own ability. I don’t think he would be a 1,400 yard elite RB but I think he can contribute significantly for most teams. He can be elite in a committee system.

He seems like a good dude.

Go Dallas!!!

 

[quickccc]

Remember what Alvin harper was to Michael Irvin. A great complimentary WR.
But once he left to be a #1 Wr, I think he went too TB. He could not be the #1 guy.
Now maybe they did not have the surrounding team as Michael had. But he was still productive after Harper left. Harper was not.

This is what I see in Pollard. Very good combo of he and Zeke. And a great tandem when things are working and the OL is blocking.
But I see him to Zeke as Harper was to Irvin.
If Pollard leaves after his deal is up. He may not be able to handle a full time RB position.
He has already shown he can't do it here, not yet anyway. I hope he can, as we need both Tony and Zeke, that is the role he is best at.
I will not say he can't do it elsewhere, as we never will know until we see it, or not see it. But my feeling is, he would not.

I still love the idea of the dual threat, when things are going correctly.
However, Moore needs to get his head out of his butt. Because both of them, and these run up the middle for minimal gain is not working.
Come on boy genius, be creative without tricks or gimmicks or being too cute with plays.

- Odd player comparison, even as the situation and role.

- It all depends where Pollard goes to,..the role, the scheme, how he would be used, the coaching situation... and supporting player cast.(ala OL, QB, reserve backups, etc)

- For instance RB Aaron Jones with the Packers is not an every down, full time load RB, ..but if he is shared in with a back that can handle a suitable amount of carries, touches,
that will help take pressure off Aaron to where he can do what he does best in a certain role, situation, scheme.
You don't pound and ground and bell cow Jones, ,no more than what you would Pollard - you utilize the elusive, explosive Jones off tackle, on the edge, in space, screens, flairs, and he can
hurt you as both vs run and pass, as a runner/receiver.

- As you're speaking of Alvin Harper to Pollard,.. what if Pollard becomes more of what Jimmy Smith, a depth chart backup and ex-4th rd pick of Cowboys ?
Jimmy Smith was a non factor here behind Irvin, Harper, and Martin, .. but yet he went on to Jax Jags and became a perennial Pro bowler, something even Harper never
became here with the Cowboys. And no question Jimmy was a better far more productive WR than Harper.

 

[jazzcat22]

- Odd player comparison, even as the situation and role.

- It all depends where Pollard goes to,..the role, the scheme, how he would be used, the coaching situation... and supporting player cast.(ala OL, QB, reserve backups, etc)

- For instance RB Aaron Jones with the Packers is not an every down, full time load RB, ..but if he is shared in with a back that can handle a suitable amount of carries, touches,
that will help take pressure off Aaron to where he can do what he does best in a certain role, situation, scheme.
You don't pound and ground and bell cow Jones, ,no more than what you would Pollard - you utilize the elusive, explosive Jones off tackle, on the edge, in space, screens, flairs, and he can
hurt you as both vs run and pass, as a runner/receiver.

- As you're speaking of Alvin Harper to Pollard,.. what if Pollard becomes more of what Jimmy Smith, a depth chart backup and ex-4th rd pick of Cowboys ?
Jimmy Smith was a non factor here behind Irvin, Harper, and Martin, .. but yet he went on to Jax Jags and became a perennial Pro bowler, something even Harper never
became here with the Cowboys. And no question Jimmy was a better far more productive WR than Harper.

Jimmy Smith never got a chance here. So that is why I did not mention him. That is not a good comparison as we did not see what he could do.
He had an appendectomy then got an infection after, and missed more time. He may have had another injury as well and missed time. They let him leave, or released him, I can't remember. But it seemed their patience grew short on him.

 

[Ranched]

Tandem? More like Siamese twins w/both sustaining knee injuries.

 

[DFWJC]

We've had enough of your Pollard hate.

 

[DFWJC]

- Odd player comparison, even as the situation and role.

- It all depends where Pollard goes to,..the role, the scheme, how he would be used, the coaching situation... and supporting player cast.(ala OL, QB, reserve backups, etc)

- For instance RB Aaron Jones with the Packers is not an every down, full time load RB, ..but if he is shared in with a back that can handle a suitable amount of carries, touches,
that will help take pressure off Aaron to where he can do what he does best in a certain role, situation, scheme.
You don't pound and ground and bell cow Jones, ,no more than what you would Pollard - you utilize the elusive, explosive Jones off tackle, on the edge, in space, screens, flairs, and he can
hurt you as both vs run and pass, as a runner/receiver.

- As you're speaking of Alvin Harper to Pollard,.. what if Pollard becomes more of what Jimmy Smith, a depth chart backup and ex-4th rd pick of Cowboys ?
Jimmy Smith was a non factor here behind Irvin, Harper, and Martin, .. but yet he went on to Jax Jags and became a perennial Pro bowler, something even Harper never
became here with the Cowboys. And no question Jimmy was a better far more productive WR than Harper.

No doubt that Jimmy was one of our all-time biggest blunders.

Due to consecutive injuries and an in-place depth chart, he never had a chance to show what he had.
Pollard has had ample opportunity to show his stuff and has done well with those chances.

In the end though:
Jimmy Smith
.
.

Harper
.
Pollard

Pollard does have room to move up though

 

[G2]

Pollard has 6 more carries than he did all of last season with 5 seasons to go. This is who he is, a fantastic change of pace RB who cn break one loose here and there. Good in the return game as well.

 

[Creeper]

I just think RBs are not that hard to find in the draft.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Remember what Alvin harper was to Michael Irvin. A great complimentary WR.
But once he left to be a #1 Wr, I think he went too TB. He could not be the #1 guy.
Now maybe they did not have the surrounding team as Michael had. But he was still productive after Harper left. Harper was not.

This is what I see in Pollard. Very good combo of he and Zeke. And a great tandem when things are working and the OL is blocking.
But I see him to Zeke as Harper was to Irvin.
If Pollard leaves after his deal is up. He may not be able to handle a full time RB position.
He has already shown he can't do it here, not yet anyway. I hope he can, as we need both Tony and Zeke, that is the role he is best at.
I will not say he can't do it elsewhere, as we never will know until we see it, or not see it. But my feeling is, he would not.

I still love the idea of the dual threat, when things are going correctly.
However, Moore needs to get his head out of his butt. Because both of them, and these run up the middle for minimal gain is not working. Come on boy genius, be creative without tricks or gimmicks or being too cute with plays.

Zeke isnt Irvin sorry. Maybe when Zeke gets 100% healthy and the Cowboys Oline can make gaping holes for him he can be effective.

Zeke is nothing more than a short yardage type RB in a RB by committee. He is no longer some 15 million dollar top 5 RB.

All Moore needs is the Oline to be healthy. I guess you missed that 5 game stretch where we were averaging 200 yards per game?

 

[CowboyRoy]

I just think RBs are not that hard to find in the draft.

Its all about the Oline for the run game. Spend the high picks and the money on the line. Just keep drafting backs in rounds 3-4 every couple years.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Pollard has 6 more carries than he did all of last season with 5 seasons to go. This is who he is, a fantastic change of pace RB who cn break one loose here and there. Good in the return game as well.

By change of pace do you mean slow vs fast?

 

[G2]

By change of pace do you mean slow vs fast?

The back up RB.