Mistake not giving Kelvin Joseph PT

[rambo2]

The one time they tried to give Joseph playing time he decided to throw a punch on the sideline. He is exactly who some of us worried he was until he proves otherwise. I don’t expect anything from the kid.

He didn't throw a punch and he has been playing. That wasn't the one time.

 

[rambo2]

But you don't have good skills in identifying talent so you'll say anything.

There you go assuming things, this is how fights start. I never said he is a thug because he is a rapper. He just so happens to be both. You are the one escalating this stuff on Christmas.

Nope, you have a screw loose.

 

[JoeKing]

Nope, you have a screw loose.

You are for sure assuming things because I never said he was a thug because he is a rapper. You just need to think it to justify how you feel about me. Fake narratives work for you so you just continue to invent them. Does everyone see what this fool is doing?

 

[rambo2]

You are for sure assuming things because I never said he was a thug because he is a rapper. You just need to think it to justify how you feel about me. Fake narratives work for you so you just continue to invent them. Does everyone see what this fool is doing?

Ok, so tell us, what has he done to be a thug in your eyes?

 

[JoeKing]

Ok, so tell us, what has he done to be a thug in your eyes?

Watch the Packer game and stop pestering me.

 

[rambo2]

Watch the Packer game and stop pestering me.

Just what I thought you can tell us when you said that it was a fact that he was a thug.

 

[JoeKing]

Just what I thought you can tell us when you said that it was a fact that he was a thug.

Are you really going to continue to harass me after I asked you to stop? I'm not playing your game.

 

[rambo2]

Are you really going to continue to harass me after I asked you to stop? I'm not playing your game.

Maybe you should quit calling the guy a thug when you can't give a reason?

 

[JoeKing]

KJ living that thug life!

 

[Seven]

Leave the football to me and I’ll leave the crying to you.

.....said the Fox to the hen house.

HACK.

 

[texbumthelife]

He didn't throw a punch and he has been playing. That wasn't the one time.

I thought he got tossed for throwing a punch on the sideline?

 

[texbumthelife]

Dude got ganged up on by 2 Raiders and was protecting himself. Nothing that shows us anything. And I thought we were worried about his distraction with music, not him being dirty? That’s a bad assumption if that’s what you get from him making music.

Not a “dirty” thing. Just an attitude thing. Has nothing to do with his music. No connection there.

 

[texbumthelife]

Ah come on.. Who cares. Sometimes you need to thug it up.


I know very little about Kelvin but what I do know is I saw a talented corner coming out of school and IMO he is a better prospect than Diggs right out of the gate.

I haven’t seen anything superior to Diggs out of the gate.

He definitely has some upside, but outside of maybe being faster, he’s not a better corner in any way that Diggs was last year, and Diggs wasn’t all that great.

All that said, I’d love to see him come on and make me eat crow. I’ll root for him, I just don’t think forcing reps to him in blowouts does the team any favors and I trust Quinn with how he handles the roster (unless it’s playing Parsons eight yards off the LOS all game again).

 

[817Gill]

Not a “dirty” thing. Just an attitude thing. Has nothing to do with his music. No connection there.

Just not sure what his attitude would indicate with that play. If anything it’s the opposite of what his “attitude” was billed to be. The concern was his lack of care, not an over-emotion.

 

[CATCH17]

I haven’t seen anything superior to Diggs out of the gate.

He definitely has some upside, but outside of maybe being faster, he’s not a better corner in any way that Diggs was last year, and Diggs wasn’t all that great.

All that said, I’d love to see him come on and make me eat crow. I’ll root for him, I just don’t think forcing reps to him in blowouts does the team any favors and I trust Quinn with how he handles the roster (unless it’s playing Parsons eight yards off the LOS all game again).

I felt like he’s bigger, more physical, and just a more natural cover guy coming out of school.

Diggs just looked so raw coming out of Bama.

 

[rambo2]

I thought he got tossed for throwing a punch on the sideline?

He didn't throw a punch. Look at the video.

 

[xwalker]

I haven’t seen anything superior to Diggs out of the gate.

He definitely has some upside, but outside of maybe being faster, he’s not a better corner in any way that Diggs was last year, and Diggs wasn’t all that great.

All that said, I’d love to see him come on and make me eat crow. I’ll root for him, I just don’t think forcing reps to him in blowouts does the team any favors and I trust Quinn with how he handles the roster (unless it’s playing Parsons eight yards off the LOS all game again).

Kelvin Joseph was terrific on the field in college. Better than some CBs drafted ahead of him.

I wouldn't go as far as saying better than Diggs. Pre-draft I advocated for drafting Diggs with the Cowboys 1st round pick.
- I thought Diggs was as good as any CB in that draft.

Different style of player between Joseph and Diggs.

If you compared Sherman and Revis in the NFL, they played drastically different styles.
- Revis was the traditional man-coverage CB that was just glued to the WR throughout the route.

Diggs plays a style more like Richard Sherman.
- Master of technique & film study. Physical with great ball skills.
- Plays within the scheme taking chances because he knows where his help defenders are located.

Joseph in college played a more traditional style than Diggs.
- He showed that unique ability to mirror WRs while making minimal contact with them.
- Joseph did show a good understand of the game and of zone coverage as well.
- He didn't shy away from contact in the run game. He was borderline too physical with some knock your head off type tackles.

 

[CATCH17]

Kelvin Joseph was terrific on the field in college. Better than some CBs drafted ahead of him.

I wouldn't go as far as saying better than Diggs. Pre-draft I advocated for drafting Diggs with the Cowboys 1st round pick.
- I thought Diggs was as good as any CB in that draft.

Different style of player between Joseph and Diggs.

If you compared Sherman and Revis in the NFL, they played drastically different styles.
- Revis was the traditional man-coverage CB that was just glued to the WR throughout the route.

Diggs plays a style more like Richard Sherman.
- Master of technique & film study. Physical with great ball skills.
- Plays within the scheme taking chances because he knows where his help defenders are located.

Joseph in college played a more traditional style than Diggs.
- He showed that unique ability to mirror WRs while making minimal contact with them.
- Joseph did show a good understand of the game and of zone coverage as well.
- He didn't shy away from contact in the run game. He was borderline too physical with some knock your head off type tackles.

Joseph is a high upside player.

The guy was recruited by LSU & Bama. That’s all you need to know.

If he’s a knucklehead or whatever we will find out in time but the risk reward is high because he looks like a really good traditional NFL corner prospect.

He’s a big & fast corner that has ball skills. One of the few guys who played well against Mac Jones and Devonta Smith.

 

[kskboys]

Kelvin Joseph was terrific on the field in college. Better than some CBs drafted ahead of him.

I wouldn't go as far as saying better than Diggs. Pre-draft I advocated for drafting Diggs with the Cowboys 1st round pick.
- I thought Diggs was as good as any CB in that draft.

Different style of player between Joseph and Diggs.

If you compared Sherman and Revis in the NFL, they played drastically different styles.
- Revis was the traditional man-coverage CB that was just glued to the WR throughout the route.

Diggs plays a style more like Richard Sherman.
- Master of technique & film study. Physical with great ball skills.
- Plays within the scheme taking chances because he knows where his help defenders are located.

Joseph in college played a more traditional style than Diggs.
- He showed that unique ability to mirror WRs while making minimal contact with them.
- Joseph did show a good understand of the game and of zone coverage as well.
- He didn't shy away from contact in the run game. He was borderline too physical with some knock your head off type tackles.

Joseph has a superior skillset. Diggs plays better at present.

 

[Creeper]

It's sad that you think a thug is a good thing.

I think a thug on the football field can be a good thing.